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DeusExMachinima posted:^^^Have you tried looking at the HuffPo comments section? Most cities would either be flattened like Hiroshima, with little standing structures save reinforced concrete structures like parking structures, or burnt rubble due to firestorms. Anything like a skyscraper or office building would likely be completely demolished except for the first few floors. Throwing Turtles posted:In my experience left wing fiction is more likely to have the protagonist win in a way that doesn't change the setting. The best example I can think of is Jennifer Government, where at the end of the day society hasn't changed a bit. Shadowrun is like this as well, for everything bad in the world there isn't a good guy looking to collapse the whole system and shut it down. Illuminatus is a direct parody of Atlas Shrugged, but at the end of the day life just goes on. You did have stuff like Southland Tales, which ends with the anarcho-libertarian revolution against the neocons happening while time-space begins destabilizing. Nine Inch Nail's "Year Zero" ends similarly, with the conservative world meeting it's maker, literally.
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JcDent posted:There is an old post nuclear war RPG called Tomorrow Project. In the vein of all good old RPGs, it starts with a massively autistic chartaton to calculate what places get hit and by what, and how much radiation remains, and radiation sickness. One weird thing about it is that they include bacteriological ICBMs into the list. Where the soviets seriously deploying biological weapons in missiles? I think you mean The Morrow Project, which gets pretty figure-heavy for what's essentially "Earth Two with Green Berets". As for the bacteriological ICBMs, I believe that was something the Russians were heavily believed to consider. IIRC, it was thought their nuclear tech wasn't on par with the U.S. and other nuclear powers, so they supplemented their rocket forces with biowarfare warheads. I'm not sure if this was bullshit or paper tiger stuff to validate increase defense budgets toward bioweapons research. JcDent posted:Back to guns: glad to see that Beehive Bob is choosing the manly pistol cartridge, the 45 ACP. Only a commie pinko librul would use the much inferior 9mm. I guess this book was released before Rainbow Six, as in that book they used MP5s chambered in 45 ACP (which exist, since MP5 is the AK of SMGs) Actually, the whole thing about Johnstone/Ben making GBS threads on the M16s in favor for the BAR reminded me of that fake conservative fiction manuscript that appeared in GBS a few months ago. It actually sold me on the validity of the story, although I might have influenced the poster by bringing up that same "5.56mm is a weak sissy varmit round, 7.62mm/30-06/30-30/.50 cal is a man's cartridge" trope and they incorporated into their hoax.
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JcDent posted:So is Ben Johnstones dick two feet long or what, so as to not br out dicked by somr lawyer Valentine? The thing is that, unless you have another heart or one of those pump implants, a human dick over a foot can't get full erect. It's just too much volume for the human cardiovascular system to keep filled.
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JcDent posted:So Space Marines, is that what you're saying? Or half-equine or half-bovine human hybrids. You have to have huge pump to keep your balloon inflated.
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JcDent posted:OK! Yeah, I was a bit surprised by the numbers being thrown around in the text. Ben deduces at the beginning of the book that there's probably 35,000 people who survived out of the world wide population from a combination biological epidemic and WW3, TOTAL, not in just in the United States but worldwide. But then, Chicago has dueling race armies that number in the tens of thousands each and Ben has a personal army of four to five thousand running around the East Coast.
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I love reading between the lines of these sections...quote:Young, middle-aged, and elderly who wanted to work, and could work, were encouraged to do so. quote:Those who would not, because they felt the job offered them was beneath their dignity, or because of laziness, apathy, and/or indifference, were escorted to the nearest border and booted out. They were told not to come back. If children were involved, they were taken from the people and immediately adopted. It's like the most passive-aggressive form of slavery: "Hey, guys, as President of these three states, I think it's a swell idea if you worked. Just a reminder, that anyone who is capable of working but isn't is going to go to the Outside." Oh, and the taking their kids away is some hosed up poo poo. Also, the "everyone is special forces" thing is something you'd find in loving Nationstates. Seriously, just because you train them in special forces tactics and such doesn't mean they are. Weren't the stories of the SEALs' BUD/S, "Hell Week", and Ranger School well know in the early '80s? Part of the reason they're special forces is because of physical and psychological demands that most people can not muster, even with the cozy catastrophe apocalyptic hellscape of "Out Of The Ashes". You can't expect 40-50 year olds to hump 90 pounds of gear 30 miles. Also, that poo poo takes loving training: Green Beret training takes a solid year, SEALs take 18 months. This isn't something you can do on a weekend or part time while tending crops. Ranger School has like something like 20 hour days. The whole point of the training is to stress you to the point of death and people have gotten severely injured or died during special forces training. People have gotten hypothermia or drowned. I reading something right now that a guy had sickle cell anemia, didn't know it, died during a mountain climb during Ranger training. Also, whose ranking these guys "best in the world"? I don't think Jane's Defense is still around.
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Throwing Turtles posted:I don't think that very much was known about the various special forces in the 80s, at least not much that was specific. According to wiki, which I'm willing to trust here, the military was not happy with projects depicting the special forces. There was also some scandal involving special forces and they kind of dropped off the map. When you say "projects", you mean movies and such? I know the military probably wasn't happy with stuff like Apocalypse Now or even First Blood and their depictions of special forces and their vets. And John Wayne's The Green Berets, which they did back, is pretty much a joke. You started seeing stuff coming back with military support following Top Gun. Fake edit: Wikipedia is telling me that the first movie to depict a Navy SEAL is The Abyss, which ain't that positive of a portrayal since Michael Biehn's character goes nuts and tries to blow up the aliens and everyone with a nuke. The next is Navy SEALs with Biehn and Charlie Sheen, which basically popularized the unit. Also, the scandal was probably Operation Eagle Claw, which was the first publicized Delta Force by focusing on the mission-ending accident. It's the reason why special forces now have their own air wing. The point is that, be it Green Berets, SEALs, Rangers, British SAS or GRU Spetsnaz, special forces could be compared to playing professional football in the NFL. There's a lot of people who think that they can make it because they played high school or college football, not many actually the cut; just because you know the game is played doesn't mean you could manage or compete against a professional team and expect to win; and there's an expiration date on players who actually get there before age, hubris, or, more likely, injury takes them out of the career.
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Chichevache posted:Ahhh... so all the criminals are "punching up", so to speak. No one victimizes anyone weaker than themselves in this Ben's world. Thats... uhhhhh... a thing? Yeah, the example where the philanderer is killed by the cheated-on husband really should have ended with the guy shooting the husband in the back as he went to go for his gun.
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Taerkar posted:Also their approach to science is akin to Lysenkoism That's true Communism right there.
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I love that, in the beginning of the book, the military is powerful but stays out of the war between Raines' Rebels and the US government. Then, when they actually get in and support Addelson, they're so weak they can't stand up to a bunch of mercenaries and the FBI.
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