Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

Name: Safety Biscuits
Number: 100
Booklord's challenge: Yes

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

Nice wildcard. I'm off to a slow start.

1. Angkor by Michael D. Coe
2. The Translator by John Crowley
3. Tristes Tropiques by Claude Lévi-Strauss

Angkor is a non-fiction book about the Khmer Empire. A bit heavy on geography at first and kings and dates later on, but apparently the only source for how people actually lived in Angkor is an incomplete account from a Chinese visitor who was there for a few months in 1296. Highlights: priests ritually deflowering pre-pubescent girls, thieves putting their hands in boiling oil as a trial by ordeal. Coe tries to make it interesting. Some nice photos.

The Translator is a novel about an American student meeting an exiled Russian poet in 1962. Has a lot of imagery about ice snow etc. being bad due to the Cold War, cold, geddit? but much of it rather moving and mysterious. The bit about being a runaway kid during the Revolution were good. I felt Crowley was repeating himself a bit too much stylistically (the wind imagery is also in Daemonomania). Read Keats.

Tristes Tropiques: Messy, noisy, only about half is the main course (fieldwork in Brazil), the rest being reflections on anthropology, writing, Islam, India, etc., autobiography, and only vaguely relevant narrative. A collage, written in haste. The flow of his ideas, unbound by narrative, is baggy and capacious. It's a book of philosophy interrupted by other stuff, not a travel book. The world in it is dying and almost hopeless. It's funny and dense with interesting details and narrative. The anti-Islam stuff at the back is funny.

Groke posted:

7. Among Others by Jo Walton. Set in 1979/1980, it's either the tale of a 15-year-old Welsh girl dealing with reconnecting with her estranged father after losing her twin sister and getting away from an unstable and abusive mother; or the same girl wading in fairies and magic and saving the world from her mother who's an evil witch. In either case she's doing it while trying to adapt to boarding-school life, getting some kind of social life together, and reading an awful lot of classic and then-current science fiction, and discovering SF fandom. Obviously has some elements of autobiography in there (presumably not so much in the fairies and saving-the-world department). Thought this was a sweet book.

It's definitely a fantasy by the end, and it's really not good either; I posted in the sf thread about it already.


Twelve already? Cheer up, I'm sure you'll find a new job soon :v:

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

What's wrong with it? Urne-Burial is short, not too hard to find, and a way off the beaten track. Sounds like a perfect wildcard to me.

Read The Garden of Cyrus with it too, they were originally published together.

ulvir posted:

I'm not going to pretend to understand half of Gravity's Rainbow, but I enjoyed it for the most part. I loved how full of intertextuality this book was, ranging from Homer's classic plays to burlesque, as well as speculative linguistics. Guess I have to reread it in the future, cause the structure just screams "repeated readings".

What do you mean by speculative linguistics? It's been so long since I've read it that I've no idea what you're talking about.

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

Franchescanado posted:

I feel like this is a reference to the Kenosha Kid gag?

ulvir posted:

speculative might not be the correct phrasing, but around the midpoint Pynchon goes on for several pages discussing phonetics in a bunch of languages (some of which I believe are fictional) and a grapheme. reminded me of Borges tbh

I don't remember this section at all but I have a vague idea it's something to do with Tchitcherine. Man there was so much in that book and so much went over my head.

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

Ras Het posted:

Also their conservative party is called Left

No that's the UK.

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

4 Hadrian VII by Baron Corvo/Fr. Rolfe
5 Hamlet by William Shakespeare
6 Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut
7 Times Square Red, Times Square Blue by Samuel R. Delany
8-9 Diary of a Madman and Other Stories by Lu Xun

Hadrian VII by Baron Corvo/Fr. Rolfe
Horrid Edwardian gay Mary Sue racist Catholic Classically educated idiosyncratic wish fulfilment drivel.

Hamlet by William Shakespeare
It's good. It's Christian. It's funny. The gravedigger is the only guy who's Hamlet's equal in a text lousy with mirrors (Horatio, Laertes, Ophelia, Claudius). Better constructed than Lear but not as extreme.

Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut
Gravity's Rainbow for kids. I should have read it when I was a teenager.

Times Square Red, Times Square Blue by Samuel R. Delany
Two linked essays. The essay is about cruising in Times Square, and there's a bit where a woman is nearly thrown out of a porn cinema because “This is a nice place”. It's interesting, but the second one is much deeper and more theoretical – it's a marxian analysis of cross-class, accidental, contact, and intra-class, deliberate, networking. Unfortunately I haven't read enough theory to understand it, so I won't say more. Recommended if you want to consider that public sex might be morally good.

Diary of a Madman and Other Stories by Lu Xun
The complete short stories by a Modernist who brought written Chinese into the Twentieth Century by shifting the register from Literary/Classical Chinese to vernacular. Really good stories – moving, historically important, funny, scathing, satirical. Very involved with contemporary Chinese happenings (written in the 1920s). Sometimes seems to be re-inventing Modernism by himself, without models; one story even has brief stream of consciousness. Few duds. Translation into US English by William A. Lyell is also good. Strongly recommended. (Counted as two books because that's how it was originally published, btw.)

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

Wildcard me droogs

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

USMC_Karl posted:

I'll offer you one, but feel free to turn me down.

Zorba the Greek by Nikos Kazantzakis was a very good book. Go along with Zorba while he drinks, works, dances, womanizes, jams out some tunes, philosophizes, and drinks some more!

I've already bought The Fishermen, but I'll keep an eye open for this one, too.

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

Haven't updated for ages and I'm never going to make the target now v:shobon:v

The Invisible Circus by Jennifer Egan
An American flower child goes on holiday to Europe and dies. Years later, her younger sister follows to discover what happened. Slow start. Dionysiac. It's really irritating that the older sister is named Faith. The younger, Phoebe, is convincingly damaged by her experiences; it's not always fun to read. A really impressive debut.

The Dispossessed by Ursula le Guin
I forgot to note anything about this at the time, or post in the thread, but it was interesting and the sturcture matched the circle/line imagery nicely.

Here, There, Elsewhere by William Least Heat-Moon
Collected travel writing by the author of Blue Highways. Most of it's good with occasional lapses, but the articles about travelling to the UK are weak. I'm not sure if that's because he's out of his knowledge, or looks better when he's talking about stuff I don't know about.

Exotics and Retrospectives by Lafcadio Hearn
The guy who wrote Kwaidan. Five longish essays about Japanese culture – frogs, musical insects, climbing Mt. Fuji, Zen, and inscriptions for the dead – which are interesting, and ten short ones with occult drivel explaining why people like blue and not red, and stuff. Borders on :biotruths:. The second half is really overwritten, I suppose because he has nothing to actually write about.

The Trader, the Owner, the Slave by James Walvin
History book about British slavery/abolition, in the form of three biographies: a slaver who later became a priest and abolitionist; a plantation owner in Jamaica; and a slave, in fact, Oludah Equiano. Interesting, but pretty shallow and unsatisfying. Interesting to see it focus in on slavery, more and more intimate.

About Writing by Samuel R. Delany
Part creative-writing instruction, part discussion of how to make a career of writing, part discussion of the nature of the canon/literature etc. Gives the impression that he knows what he's talking about when it comes to the writer's life, equally inspiring and forbidding.

V. by Thomas Pychon
Of a piece with GR, but not as good, you can see the development though. Some really good stuff, still. Very confusing...

The Terrors of the Night by Thomas Nashe
Elizabethan pamphlet about how awful dreams are, also demonology and why fortune-tellers are all liars, exuberant, apparently improvised, vigorous, echoes of Othello and Macbeth.

Conamara Blues by John O'Donohue
Irish poetry. Stark, lyrical, gets repetetive. Mostly they are about nature and meditative stillness. The Jesus poems are good and there's a few more human ones towards the end, which make a nice change – it was getting wearying and humourless.

Much Ado About Nothing by William Shakespeare
It's a comedy, but almost a tragedy – twist it a bit and it's Othello. I was expecting Beatrice and Benedick to be the main draw, but they're only really a subplot. Don John, the bastard, would rather rule in Hell than serve in Heaven. The central fake-out scene doesn't really hang together (why's Hero sleeping alone? How do Borachio and Margaret not wake her up? What's Margaret's deal? Why does Borachio turn his coat, didn't he realise it was this serious? And why doesn't Conrade say anything at all after being arrested?) Also, it's odd that Beatrice is never explicitly identified as Antonio's daughter.

Jane Eyre by Charlotte Brontë
My fourth or so read. This time I particularly noticed that the Christ figure is wrong, quite a few big references to Sense and Sensibility and Oedipus (and less important ones to a range of imaginative writers, especially 1001 Nights) and that Jane fucks a dude with no hand or eyes, ugh.

Wide Sargasso Sea by Jean Rhys
Logical to read next. Clever reworking of the original, especially Bertha/Anoinetta's name and the house-burning at the beginning. Good descriptions of the landscape.

Lying on the Couch by Irvin D. Yalom
Middle class.

The Fishermen by Chigozie Obioma
This was nominated for the Booker? Why? Journeyman stuff, especially the overuse of flashbacks. I think the Igbo proverbs were good, but I'm too ignorant to say if they were really good or just cliché.

The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin
The trick with the protagonist was good. Shame about the paucity of landscape descriptions, which kind of hobble it as epic, and the basic metaphor of orogenes = the oppressed is silly.

One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez
An amazing novel. Crammed and pulsing with life. Fascinating. I was bewitched by the opening, then found that pleasure developing, darkening, recomplicating as the story emerged. I should read about the history of Columbia to get more out of it, but what I got was horrible enough. And yet, there's hope too.

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

code:
1	Angkor					Michael D. Coe
2	The Translator				John Crowley
3	Tristes Tropiques			Claude Lévi-Strauss
4	Hadrian VII				Baron Corvo/Fr. Rolfe
5	Hamlet					William Shakespeare
6	Slaughterhouse-Five			Kurt Vonnegut
7	Times Square Red, Times Square Blue	Samuel R. Delany
8-9	Diary of a Madman and Other Stories 	Lu Xun
10	The Invisible Circus			Jennifer Egan
11	The Dispossessed			Ursula le Guin
12	Here, There, Elsewhere			William Least Heat-Moon
13	Exotics and Retrospectives		Lafcadio Hearn
14	The Trader, the Owner, the Slave	James Walvin
15	About Writing				Samuel R. Delany
16	V.					Thomas Pynchon
17	The Terrors of the Night		Thomas Nashe 
18	Conamara Blues				John O'Donohue
19	Much Ado About Nothing			William Shakespeare
20	Jane Eyre				Charlotte Brontë
21	Wide Sargasso Sea			Jean Rhys
22	The Essex Serpent			Sarah Perry 
23	Lying on the Couch			Irvin D. Yalom
24	The Fishermen				Chigozie Obioma
25	The Fifth Season			N. K. Jemisin
26	One Hundred Years of Solitude		Gabriel García Márquez
Three more this month:
The Red Badge of Courage by Stephen Crane
Not really interesting; it seems kind of flat and mechanical, although it's not terrible either

The Man with Compound Eyes by Wu Ming-yi
Excellent novel, like Murakami but better. The parts reflect each other and refer to each other, it's theme and structure mixing. It's bleak but touching and realistic; hits the spot between denial and despair. It's modern and up to date but in touch with the outside world. It's a look at the depressing side of Taiwan, especially if you're Aboriginal. So good. Stay for the metatextuality. Oh, and the sex is good too.

A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole
Ignatius Reilly probably isn't as hilarious as he seemed in 1981, but some of the comic setpieces are, and the setting and dialogue are really good. Shame about the ending.

Safety Biscuits fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Oct 30, 2017

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

Do you know something about literature, though.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

I read about 35 books in total (out of a target of 100) so that was a disaster numbers wise. I also failed the booklord challenge, in particular not posting in any of the threads for the three or so books I read. v:shobon:v

  • Locked thread