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I generally tend towards leniency in criminal justice with a big focus on rehabilitation over retribution, so the bigger problems (in my view) arise when you look at comparison cases. Hmm, how strange, people are a lot more interested in the rehabilitation of Brock Turner than they are in the rehabilitation of others.
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2017 18:17 |
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wateroverfire posted:Are you thinking of specific cases and specific people? No, I'm thinking systemically. If you were to take what minority offenders get for non-violent crime as a baseline, Turner should be in for life. What causes us to see Turner and go "SIX MONTHS?!?" is knowing what else gets people six months. I'm in partial agreement with you because I think it's a backwards way of thinking about justice; I think we do better as a society if everyone gets the sentencing of the priviledged.
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2017 18:29 |
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That probation is a prime example of why everyone hates D&D. Dude was making bad arguments, but they're still incredibly common arguments, and everyone else was still responding with good stuff that anyone lurking could read and understand.
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2017 21:49 |
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DeusExMachinima posted:So this happened: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/01/17/pro_life_feminist_group_new_wave_feminists_removed_from_women_s_march_partnership.html There's been a whole lot of this stuff, because yeah, they went into this with the naive idea of an big open umbrella. They're still pretending to be non-partisan, too, but everybody knows the deal, and everybody knows that if you're not on board with the partisanship you're gonna be really loving uncomfortable at the march. Looping any pro-life group in was just asking for problems. On the same note, my feed has been blowing up all week because of subtle edits to the "guiding vision" document. For example, there was a line in there that said "we stand in solidarity with the sex workers’ rights movement." A bunch of people got really upset about that, including survivors of sex trafficking. So, they removed the line, and replaced it with "we stand in solidarity with all those exploited for sex and labor." So, the circle I follow got really upset about that, and now it says "and we stand in solidarity with the sex workers’ rights movement. We recognize that exploitation for sex and labor in all forms is a violation of human rights" and the former group is upset again. Ooof. [e: fixed wording] BRAKE FOR MOOSE fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jan 18, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 18, 2017 03:51 |
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Lead out in cuffs posted:On this note, have a story about succeeding in science as a woman. There's a lot of survivor bias among leading women in science, so you get older women who are amazing for putting up with the kind of poo poo they did and succeeding in spite of it, but who also take a "poo poo sucks; gotta deal if you're gonna be a woman in science" approach to mentorship. In biology, we've now reached gender parity at the PhD level, but we lose women during their post-docs because they hit their 30s and lose interest in dealing with the work-life bullshit and biases. One of the most outspoken advocates for women in science in my field is a trans male, which blares loud and clear how heavily the system fights and destroys outspoken women.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2017 22:15 |
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54 40 or gently caress posted:Still, there are huge issues with things like getting notes from a midwife and how much respect is given to the role. It's really sad to see. The whole adversarial labor market that requires doctors notes in the first place is stupid. When I had a job like that during college I'd just show up, get everyone else and probably a few customers sick, then get sent home because I obviously looked like hell. On midwives in particular, licensed midwifery is still a relatively new thing, so it's going to take time to catch up. Nurse practitioners have had to deal with the same poo poo even though they are true PCPs. It sounds like it's pretty accepted in your state; in MA it's not a protected term (last I checked) so you'd probably have a tough time getting people to accept a note. It's a really terrible idea to support the deprofessionalization of medicine, so in states where there's no regulation beyond standard RN stuff (or where the regulation is just make-believe nonsense that the midwife lobby cooked up, like they're starting to do with naturopathy) then a note from them really shouldn't fly. The solution there is to get midwives treated legally as medical professionals, but I imagine there's no shortage of pushback there because idiots think of it as "lower". [edit: uh, I just realized this was a very US centric post. oops.] BRAKE FOR MOOSE fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Jan 19, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 19, 2017 20:17 |
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Women's march in Boston hit ~125,000 people. Like the other big marches, it was too big to really "march," but it plowed on with its best attempt along the planned route. Police were cool, stuck it out, and kept the roads closed well past the originally planned time. It took an hour for my group just to get out of the Common. Several great local speakers. Elizabeth Warren gave a solid speech that feels like the Dem platform going forward: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oGzqrVlxf0 Maura Healey, Massachusetts AG, particularly surprised me with the strength of her language, wish I could find a transcript of that one. Open threat to sue the administration if they gently caress around with rights. Nkosi Nkululeko loving killed it too, first I'd heard of him and drat.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2017 22:16 |
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Oh, and the most beautifully stereotypical white dude thing happened. A band is rocking out on the back of a truck, woman of color is there shouting "the people! united! will never be divided!" in time with the music (yes yes yes I know but it worked with the meter so shhhhhh) and the crowd picks it up. White dude with an ACLU sign around his neck has a goddamn megaphone and starts belting it out over the crowd, but badly off time with everyone else. Lasts about five times then he realizes that was a bad look and slinks away, where we caught up with him later down the march route, leading a new chant. [edit:] Boston march video: https://twitter.com/onlyinbos/status/822904774714621952 BRAKE FOR MOOSE fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Jan 21, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 21, 2017 22:27 |
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Rakosi posted:I don't have to kowtow to every statement you make to be an ally to your cause. Explain to me how suggesting he should go "plan his next rape" was even remotely constructive. You know, I really tried to put in effort and contribute with posts from within my area of expertise but it is apparent that even very slight differences in tone are not just unwelcome here but are considered literal accessories to sexual violence and such. You're mad at her hurling an unconstructive insult at... LeJackal? I think you might not be aware what you're defending here. Unconstructive insults start to fly when one party can make the safe assumption this isn't in good faith.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2017 22:37 |
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# ¿ May 14, 2024 12:37 |
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[edit: nevermind, a good post was finally made]
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2017 23:21 |