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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > Let's talk about the impacts of patriarchy/misogyny/male privilege on men.
 
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Black Baby Goku
Apr 2, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
How is it "not very feminist" to discuss issues about Men in relation to feminism?

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Black Baby Goku
Apr 2, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

FactsAreUseless posted:

It's not very feminist to drown out the ability for women to discuss their issues in feminism. Like by definition. Since SA is a largely male forum, and there are lots of legitimate things for men to discuss, you can have totally valuable conversation that silences women's voices. And silencing women is uh... un-feminist. But we don't want to just make that discussion against the rules, because it's a legitimate subject. So this is the solution.

So it silences women by bringing up a topic in the feminism thread that doesn't involve women? Are men and women not allowed to discuss issues that may not be from the place of their sex or lived experiences? Just seems silly to me but whatever. Thanks for answering.

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Black Baby Goku
Apr 2, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

I'm gonna fast-forward to the end here since poor helpless babymen need everything spoon-fed to them apparently: If you aren't doing your share of the work, saying "you just need to manage me better" is not a solution. That wouldn't fly at your job so you have no business thinking it would fly at home.

You are an adult, you should not need your partner to write you out a chore chart like you're a toddler. The chore chart doesn't make you do your housework, you do. A chore chart doesn't solve the problem of ignoring the work, or of demanding to be "taught how" every time something needs doing, or of whining to your partner that she's just so much better than you are at all those boring unpleasant jobs so why doesn't she do them, or of telling her any jobs you don't want to do really don't need to be done at all and why is she so unreasonable about it. You know, the things the article you're pretending you read was about.

Rudatron has a long track record of being a sexist idiot and if you guys are going to buy into the sexist idiots' take on every issue FAU should just close this thread now because it will be an MRA cesspit by the end of the week.

Sexism and toxic masculinity are very very deeply ingrained into our society. If you're going to try and solve that, you need to be very suspicious of any solution that sounds comfortable to you, because our society's current comfort zone about gender roles is poison.

Settle down Beavis

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