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i realized i've never seen a john wayne movie before, what do you guys reccomend to start with, the searchers?
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Dec 28, 2016 02:23
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The Searchers is a great film, but part of what makes it so interesting is how it contrasts with some of the more 'traditional' westerns John Wayne did. As such, seeing it when you're not very familiar with the classic studio western might not be the best idea. A bit like watching Scream if you don't know anything about slashers. A better starting point might be the cavalry trilogy Wayne did with John Ford: Fort Apache, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, and Rio Grande. Stagecoach is fantastic as well and mandatory viewing if you've never seen it. You could also try Red River, which has my favourite Wayne performance, though it's very much unlike the traditional heroic role he's known for.
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Dec 28, 2016 02:37
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I think Stagecoach is a pretty good place to start. It's a shockingly modern movie, one of those templates that's still in use today.
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Dec 28, 2016 02:41
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cool thanks guys ill watch stagecoach first
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Dec 28, 2016 02:43
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I rewatched Stagecoach last week and it's so goddamn good.
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Dec 28, 2016 04:16
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Samuel Clemens posted:The Searchers is a great film, but part of what makes it so interesting is how it contrasts with some of the more 'traditional' westerns John Wayne did. As such, seeing it when you're not very familiar with the classic studio western might not be the best idea. A bit like watching Scream if you don't know anything about slashers. Red River is so good. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is also essential, but kind of like the Searchers a bit of foreknowledge about the genre aids your appreciation of it.
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Dec 28, 2016 04:34
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The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance and The Shootist are brilliant and really highlight how much Wayne grew as an actor. Or perhaps it's his material that grew. Either way, both films feel like appropriate swan songs to the classic studio western. Also, if you're still looking for recommendations, Brosephine, check out Rio Bravo. It's not Wayne's best film, but it's perhaps the most 'Wayne' performance he ever gave if that makes sense.
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Dec 28, 2016 05:02
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I'm not a big fan of John Wayne, but The War Wagon was entertaining. Not only is the concept silly (a stagecoach that's armed to the teeth) but Wayne plays an outlaw for one of the few times in his career, and he and Kirk Douglas are obviously just doing a goofy movie and having a good time. I remember Hondo being remastered in 3D in the late 80s but as I was a kid I can't remember it too well.
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Dec 28, 2016 05:04
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The Quiet Man is essential. John Wayne, directed by John Ford, and Maureen O'Hara. Also has an epic cross-country fist fight between Wayne and Victor McLaglen. It's not exactly the most progressive movie, but it's so much fun. And Technicolor! (Also, Hondo was restored in 3-D and has gotten some theatrical showings in the last few years, but the Blu-Ray is 2-D only)
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Dec 28, 2016 05:10
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Hatari is absolutely his best film, it's a documentary about him and some other actors catching wild animals in Africa.
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Dec 28, 2016 05:13
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drat so guess there is alotof good movies of his, thanks guys
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Dec 28, 2016 13:35
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The Conqueror is the most hilariously misguided thing. John Wayne is... Ghengis Khan? They filmed it at an atomic test site so it gave everyone cancer. 
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Dec 28, 2016 13:57
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I watched Stagecoach for the first time a few months ago and was shocked to find out he was playing an outlaw. When they called him one, I was left scratching my head, thinking "maybe they mean someone standing behind him."
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Dec 28, 2016 14:23
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sean10mm posted:The Conqueror is the most hilariously misguided thing. John Wayne is... Ghengis Khan? quote:Armendáriz began to suffer pain in his hips and years later it was discovered that he had cancer in this region. He learned his condition was terminal while at UCLA Medical Center in Los Angeles, California. He reportedly acted in From Russia with Love while enduring great pain (he visibly limps in most scenes) in order to leave behind financial resources for his family after his impending death. On June 18, 1963, Armendáriz shot himself in the chest with a gun he had smuggled into the hospital. He was buried in Panteón Jardín, Mexico City, Mexico. that's hardcore
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Dec 28, 2016 14:37
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Detective No. 27 posted:I watched Stagecoach for the first time a few months ago and was shocked to find out he was playing an outlaw. When they called him one, I was left scratching my head, thinking "maybe they mean someone standing behind him." That's part of why Stagecoach was so influential. It was either the first movie, or the first majorly successful movie, where that "outlaw with a heart of gold" archetype showed up. Wayne's character and then also the prostitute character were decades ahead of their time.
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Dec 28, 2016 14:49
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I watched Stagecoach it was pretty boring maybe john wayne isnt for me
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Dec 29, 2016 03:51
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I wasn't too enthralled by Stagecoach myself. I might have to rewatch it. I loved My Darling Clementine though. Not Wayne, but the only other John Ford movie I'm aware I've seen.
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Dec 29, 2016 04:00
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Empress Brosephine posted:I watched Stagecoach it was pretty boring maybe john wayne isnt for me If you found Stagecoach boring I doubt it has anything to do with the presence of John Wayne.
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Dec 29, 2016 04:05
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I feel like you should start with Words and Music. It's a pre-code musical so it's super fabulous in a way film wouldn't be again for a long time. That way you can understand "twink" Wayne vs. his later "Daddy" persona.
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Dec 29, 2016 04:08
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O.o Stagecoach just felt messy? I understand it was like the thirties but it felt kind of messy and...bad. I did like when John Wayne was on the screen tho
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Dec 29, 2016 04:12
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Messy is a bit of an unclear descriptor. Do you mean the way the individual characters' arcs interact? Or the way it's shot? Or the general pacing?
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Dec 29, 2016 04:19
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Shbobdb posted:I feel like you should start with Words and Music. It's a pre-code musical so it's super fabulous in a way film wouldn't be again for a long time. That way you can understand "twink" Wayne vs. his later "Daddy" persona. Red River is extremely gay
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Dec 29, 2016 04:22
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Samuel Clemens posted:Messy is a bit of an unclear descriptor. Do you mean the way the individual characters' arcs interact? Or the way it's shot? Or the general pacing? I guess kind of lame tbh. The drunk doctor the whiskey salesman being the worst. They just felt like they're from a 1920s movie
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Dec 29, 2016 04:32
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uv_WGEHr4I
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Dec 29, 2016 04:40
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Empress Brosephine posted:I guess kind of lame tbh. The drunk doctor the whiskey salesman being the worst. They just felt like they're from a 1920s movie I'm afraid I still don't quite follow. From a 1920s movie in the sense that they don't fit in with the rest of the film? Or did you simply not care for the their type of humour? Because that's totally a fair thing to say.
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Dec 29, 2016 04:52
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You should watch The Outlaw Josey Wales. John Wayne isn't in it, but that's okay as he was a fat dweeb who couldn't act anyways.
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Dec 29, 2016 05:15
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Mantis42 posted:You should watch The Outlaw Josey Wales. John Wayne isn't in it, but that's okay as he was a fat dweeb who couldn't act anyways. Josey Wales is a slog. Watch McLintock! instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3343LUHNb4 Or the Searchers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5hT5FLMUBg
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Dec 29, 2016 06:01
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General Dog posted:Red River is extremely gay The movie ends with a character shouting "stop fighting and gently caress already." It's also really good.
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Dec 29, 2016 10:41
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Samuel Clemens posted:I'm afraid I still don't quite follow. From a 1920s movie in the sense that they don't fit in with the rest of the film? Or did you simply not care for the their type of humour? Because that's totally a fair thing to say. Yeah in the sense they don't fit in. Everyone else is played seriously but you have these two goofballs that like don't fit in at all.
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Dec 29, 2016 12:59
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If you watched Stagecoach and it made you think about quitting the John Wayne Project, at least check out The Searchers. Its in color and full wide-screen Panavision, so it has much more of an epic feel to it that you may like more than Stagecoach.
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Dec 29, 2016 15:30
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Hand Knit posted:The movie ends with a character shouting "stop fighting and gently caress already." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQmaLlmutlY
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Dec 29, 2016 15:40
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Empress Brosephine posted:Yeah in the sense they don't fit in. Everyone else is played seriously but you have these two goofballs that like don't fit in at all. Yeah, the comic relief character (usually a drunk or an old man or an old drunk) is a staple of studio westerns. If you don't care for this type of humour but still want to see more Wayne, you could try The Searchers or The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. Both are more serious takes on the Old West.
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Dec 29, 2016 15:41
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Even The Searchers has a goofball type character(Mose) but his role is pretty small and he only shows up a few times.
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Dec 29, 2016 15:53
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Decayed drunk and paranoid John Wayne is insanely good.
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Dec 29, 2016 15:56
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yeah im gunna try The Searchers next im excited for that one
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Dec 29, 2016 16:48
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Empress Brosephine posted:yeah im gunna try The Searchers next im excited for that one If The Searchers doesn't click for you, there's really no shame in just saying that old Hollywood Westerns aren't your thing. They are a genre to themselves and are a pretty specific taste. A lot of people enjoy westerns but only spaghetti westerns or more modern revisionist westerns.
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Dec 29, 2016 17:13
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yeah i relaly like spaghetti westerns and i lied and have seen 1 john wayne movie in the past and recalled really liking it (dont remmeber what it was) but oh well my favorite western is Frisco Kid tho 
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Dec 29, 2016 18:06
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The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is real good. I also like True Grit.
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Dec 29, 2016 19:07
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i think it was north to alaska was the one i saw
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Dec 29, 2016 19:09
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Hand Knit posted:Decayed drunk and paranoid John Wayne is insanely good. What other type of John Wayne was there? Oh wait, you mean in the movies?
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Dec 29, 2016 19:34
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