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I'm pulling for KV.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2016 14:39 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 16:53 |
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Toyota Please.
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2016 03:14 |
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Cygni posted:NHRA, and Formula Ford is dead in most of the countries where it used to exist. I could have sworn they released a new FF car relatively recently. Is FF that dead?
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2016 22:08 |
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If I could fix one thing about Open Wheel Racing in general it would be its convoluted and unstable ladder system.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2017 07:14 |
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2002 was the last decent CART/Champcar season. When Penske left it was the beginning of the end.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2017 07:46 |
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Cygni posted:Sigma Autosport also folded up after 5 races, which is why Ganassi picked up Dixon to keep the field at 18, which was the series contractual minimum for the races. Love that Lola.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 22:51 |
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Gurney left just as the Toyota's just started coming around.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 00:30 |
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PJ Jones is a huge dumbass though.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 00:33 |
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Franchitti's rookie season consisted of him driving his rear end off and then getting hosed over repeatedly by various factors.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 19:05 |
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It's unfair that his results that season don't really reflect how well he performed. I think in the Rookie championship he finished behind both Carpantier and Salles, both of whom didn't drive nearly as well. The Hogan looked pretty drat cool though.
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 19:52 |
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Yeah AutoGP is horrible.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2017 07:44 |
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Yes. Also ancient Lola F3000 (remember that?) chassis until like 2009. It used to be Italian F3000.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2017 09:33 |
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When Kimiya Sato absolutely dominates a season there is a problem.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2017 09:35 |
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Ford is not coming to Indycar. There has been absolutely no indication that they are. Fiat is F1 focused, Chyrsler has been bankrupt for 30+ years. Mazda is happy to support the ladder (I'm glad they do) and do not have the budget for an top series program and have said so on repeated occasions. US VW execs are going to prison; VW itself has withdrawn from several Motorsport programs. Nissan already has a DPi program and I doubt they will commit resources to Indycar. That basically leaves Toyota, who has said very little about Indycar in general. Human Grand Prix fucked around with this message at 11:18 on Jan 12, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 12, 2017 11:11 |
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IOwnCalculus posted:There was an awful lot of "we hope" in that article. It's not like lack of an engine is the only reason there's not 28 full season rides. That would have been prevented if more in-season development was allowed. I'm kinda bummed they are going away.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2017 15:18 |
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I finished 1997. The season was fantastic, probably the best of CART/Indycar I've ever seen. There was general parity among the engines (aside from Toyota. I think part of their problem was the drivers and teams they employed. Papis was the only one who looked good consistently). Having 4 Chassis was cool too, although the Reynard/Firestone combo was obviously the one to beat. Also the Penskes kept getting worse as the season wore on; the Lolas floundered all year until the last round. Swift did great for a first year effort.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 19:18 |
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Alain Post posted:1997 and 1998 are the clear peak imo. 1998 is less close for the championship but has some of my favorite races of all time. Zanardi was on a another level. The Ganassi cars also had excellent reliability. I think Honda still had a power advantage but Ilmor and Ford were close. Human Grand Prix fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jan 13, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 20:15 |
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freeranger posted:Do you ever think we will see IndyCar return to the Champ Car days of doing international races? Or will this just lead to bankrupting the series quicker? 1. Not currently. I don't think the teams want to do it. 2. I'm sure he's had a hand in it. CART/Indycar isn't F1 (and it never has needed to be) but I imagine he doesn't like anything that flies too close to his series.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 23:09 |
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It's a good track leave it alone.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2017 02:11 |
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To be fair the INDYCAR Toyota Eagles were
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2017 03:03 |
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So, basically what I'm hearing is that COTA is bad because F1 races on it and it has FIA certification.
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2017 16:02 |
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CactusWeasle posted:Monza sucks its an oval stuffed with chicanes :gun:
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2017 23:53 |
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Some good news; http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/137762-indycar-napa-returns-with-rossi-for-seven-races
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2017 18:16 |
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Bentai posted:Oh sweet gently caress: Oh baby.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2017 22:41 |
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He doesn't wanna do ovals, unfortunately.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2017 22:58 |
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Stop whatever you are doing and watch Long Beach '98. Wacky starting grid (Salles in Vitolo's Coyne in 4th!) and crazy finish.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2017 21:40 |
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Cygni posted:After this in '86: Motegi definitely was intended as an Oval complex man, FIA or not. Enzo always loved the 500 (shout outs to my man Gustav B. for that beautiful 637 ) but it also was just to threaten the FIA. You are also aware that Mansell's defection to CART was primarily driven by the fact that he didn't want to be teammates with Prost again right? He left as fast as he came when the car wasn't perfect. It's difficult to say whether CART actually was capable of being an F1 rival on a global scale. I don't think it was, but I'm of the opinion that it didn't need to be. I watched and am currently re-watching late 90s CART; it's definitely a better on track product than F1 was at the time.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2017 21:51 |
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It should be said too that CART very clearly hammered F1 in the USA, as the repeated failures of the 80s showed. That probably pissed off Bernie to no end.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2017 22:03 |
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WindyMan posted:The only real chance F1 has of gaining a significant foothold in the U.S. isn't an American driver or an American team, but an American brand competing and performing well. I would not think it a stretch to say that sportscar racing, specifically Le Mans, has a lot more of a casual following than F1. When recognizable U.S. brands like Chevy and Ford race domestically and internationally, Americans are going to watch (and care what happens) internationally. F1 has been chasing that a long time. Until you have a large American F1 manufacturer wanting to prove its worth against the world, general audiences won't put their heart into supporting F1 like they do IndyCar or NASCAR. Sports Car Racing and Open Wheel are different beasts. While having a competitive domestic manufacturer is nice, in open wheel (from what I've seen) the drivers seem to get more of the attention than whatever badge is on the engine cover. And in America, CART always got more attention regardless. Ford was in F1 nearly continuously from 1967-2004ish. It dominated for over a decade (nearly becoming a spec engine some years) and was competitive until the mid-90s (winning the WDC with Schumacher/Benetton as late as 1994) but it did not increase F1's popularity in the USA.
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2017 15:52 |
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That Logo is good.
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# ¿ Jan 24, 2017 22:34 |
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Uncle Jam posted:Fuzzys schedules are like that voice-over in the Twisted Metal 2 intro. Even.... Antarctica. "Fuzzy...Fuzzy what have you done?!? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!"
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# ¿ Jan 25, 2017 17:12 |
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Honda has supported various forms of open wheel racing for like 50 years. A theory I have (which is completely unsubstantiated and probably bullshit) is the reason they poured so much into F1, F3, F2, Indycar etc. because until the NSX (excluding the weird 60s roadsters) they had no real sports cars to go GT racing with. Like in the mid-80s when they were hammering everybody in F1 the closest things to a sports car they had was the loving Prelude and two Civic based sporty coupes (Integra and CRX).
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2017 23:51 |
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FuzzySkinner posted:Also how is their NASCAR, WRC, and GT program relevant to their street car program? That seems a bit silly. Those things sorta resemble street cars, whereas open-wheel cars do not.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2017 23:53 |
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IIRC they were done with one of Brabham's involvement as well, in addition to Judd. I haven't seen much of '87 but I know in '88 and '89 they were just called "Judds".
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2017 00:04 |
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In the 95-02 period I think HQ was involved. Fun fact: Mitsubishi nearly bought Honda at one point. That would have been really fuckin' weird.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2017 00:09 |
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Kanaan has 7-11 sponsorship apparently. Good stuff, they have nice looking colours.
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2017 18:15 |
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Is Karam the new Buddy Lazier?
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 20:33 |
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Alain Post posted:That's an insult to Buddy Lazier. Uh, I mean late-era Buddy Lazier.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2017 20:41 |
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In order to be competitive (especially later in the CART era) it was pretty much necessary to use the latest equipment. You occasionally had year-old chassis competiting but only near the beginning of the season. Another reason Dallara is the last man standing more or less is because they were smart financially and produced good work. Reynard and Lola both distracted themselves with other projects or had horrible financial management. Human Grand Prix fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 16:53 |
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Andretti's crash at Mid-Ohio '98
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# ¿ Feb 8, 2017 17:13 |