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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Marvel Adventures Lucha Underground returns for yet another year. An indie staple made up of silliness, comic book logic and storylines that are mostly well-booked, it gets its own thread because most people in the indie thread can't stand it. Here are our current champs.

Grand Champion: Hallowicked
Campeones de Parejas: Mustache Mountain (Tyler Bate and Trent Seven)
Young Lions Cup Holder: Thunderfrog

Previously in Chikara:

- The big storyline was the HeXed Men, the culmination of the Eye of Tyr subplot that's been going on since 2009. The Eye of Tyr is a magical artifact that causes mind-control. After losing a Loser Leaves Chikara match, Delirious used it on Hallowicked and Frightmare, turning them evil. The two started going on and on about Nazmaldun, their god who would bring doom to Chikara. After over a year of this, they captured the Eye of Tyr and used it on a retired and wheelchair-bound UltraMantis Black. Mantis became Nazmaldun and went around turning wrestlers into his psychic slaves. Soon their stable grew to include all three members of the Batiri, Icarus, Jigsaw and Mr. Touchdown. Ophidian was, for whatever reason, immune to the spell.

This led to a Cibernetico match where Dasher Hatfield was the last man standing after pinning both Touchdown and Hallowicked. Afterwards, Ophidian stole the Eye of Tyr from Mantis and left with it. Now able to stand, Mantis chased off Hallowicked while yelling "I! REMEMBER! EVERYTHING!" Then Ophidian brought the Eye of Tyr to Thunderfrog, who destroyed it once and for all with his giant hammer.

No word yet on what's become of all the HeXed Men based on that.

- Dasher and Touchdown had a falling out at the end of Season 15 due to Touchdown's rampant cheating. Prior to being turned into a HeXed Man, Touchdown remained a face, despite the jeers from the crowd. He appeared genuinely guilt-ridden over his actions, but none of his former allies believed him.

- Back at the end of Season 15, Oleg the Usurper, having a sentimental moment, promised Kobald that he would never harm him. That put him in a rough situation when Kobald was a mind-controlled villain. Oleg stuck to his word to the end, even if it caused him to be the first eliminated in the Cibernetico.

- Chuck Taylor's latest fake retirement blew up in his face when he found out that he lost the rights to his name and gimmick. Chuck Taylor TM, a sketchy R&B singer, showed up with the name and started off as taunting the original until eventually forcing him to be his tag partner. OG Chuck went under various replacement names until just being DUSTIN.

- Missile Assault Man did that thing at that place.

- Max Smashmaster has transformed into a loose cannon monster that got fired after attacking Quackenbush. He got his job back when he threatened to tear Vlad Radinov's jaw out and Kimber Lee insisted he be reinstated so she could kick his rear end. He's become increasingly unhinged as time goes on and Sidney Bakabella can barely control him.

- NRG are in the midst of breaking up because why not.

- Vlad Radinov is the best.

- The United Nations broke up after Juan Francisco lost his patience with his underlings. He has since started teaming with Wani.

- Chikara lost a TON of people for one reason or another over the last year. Kimber Lee, Heidi Lovelace, Kevin Condron, Amasis, Soldier Ant/Drew Gulak, Blaster McMassive, Flex Rumblecrunch, Jervis Cottonbelly, Joey Styles, Ashley Remington, Leonard F. Chikarason, Shynron, Eddie Kingston, Abominous Rex, Jaka and I think Jakob Hammermeier. Even Chuck Taylor had a falling out with Quack only to smooth things over later on. Most of them are still up on the roster page for some reason.

- New guys on the roster include Chuck TM, a pair of crab people, Hornswoggle and his hired goons, a pair of mermaids, bicycle enthusiasts, a motorcycle cop and... a pair of Charles Dickens evil businessmen with bad hygiene and mucus issues? I really don't have a full grasp on what Crummels and Defarge are supposed to be.

The new season begins February 4 with National Pro Wrestling Day.

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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Jay 2K Winger posted:

Amasis lost his mask at the first half of the season 16 finale, and now is competing under his real name, Desean Pratt. No word yet on whether he'll still be in Chikara under that name.

On Twitter he made it sound like he was cutting ties with the company.

quote:

Abominous Rex was just Max Smashmaster in a mask.

That's the kayfabe explanation, but in real life, he was definitely not. Abominous was both taller (roughly the height of Snitsky) and not as well-proportioned as Smashmaster. He was fatter with skinnier arms. Before the "it was Smashmaster" reveal, Bakabella said on Twitter that Abominous got fired for no-showing.

quote:

As for Crummels & Defarge, the general consensus is they're scurvy-ridden Dickensian orphans.

At the finale, their pre-match interview said that they were businessmen of some kind and Quack on commentary called them conmen. So I don't know what the gently caress but I kind of like them anyway. That match was a BIG improvement over their King of Trios debut.

Gavok fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Jan 1, 2017

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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RacistGuidingLight posted:

Chikara friggin blows.

With all due respect I disagree.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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King of Trios is going to be in England this year.

Weak.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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So while last December was the end of Season 16, NPWD was the beginning of Season 18. They're seriously doing a One Year Later on us while gradually releasing Season 17 on Chikaratopia.

As it is right now, UltraMantis Black is the Grand Champion. We just haven't seen him win the title!

:psyduck:

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

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gently caress you guys, this is AMAZING.

The first few episodes are going up sometime tonight. Apparently, Season 17 is Lost-themed.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

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Beef Jerky Robot posted:

Tbf this is much less dumb than their last big dumb thing

It's pretty much the opposite direction of Ashes when you look at it. Instead of doing next to nothing for an entire year, we're getting a season's worth of stuff in a small pocket of time.

Plus, considering the massive drop in major players on the roster, this is a good way to soften the blow. They're at least going to be writing off the likes of Kimber Lee and Heidi Lovelace here.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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exploded mummy posted:

so did they film an entire season of wrestling with no live crowd or gate or anything

Watching it now, there is a fairly full audience at the Wrestlefactory.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Alastor_the_Stylish posted:

Did they really end the feel-good charity benefit "let's all enjoy professional wrestling" show of the year with a career ending injury angle?

No?

They ended the the show with Space Monkey winning a tournament.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Jerusalem posted:

So what happens if at the end of season 17, that time traveling knight dude stops UMB from becoming Grand Champion? Does season 18 cease to have ever existed? Do we get Crisis on Infinite Chikaras? Is The Great Khali gonna debut as Doctor Manhattan?

A blue Punjabi penis would not be family friendly.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Rodney the Piper posted:

does this mean more archibald peck, because that's all i really care about

Archie works for WWE now.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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MassRafTer posted:

The idea sounded really dumb when I heard it but you know what, CHIKARA doesn't have much going for it right now so why not. I'd imagine Quack is such a stickler for continuity that he wouldn't tape out of order either!

Pretty much. While they've been fine for the past couple of years, I feel like they've become stagnate with Lucha Underground eating their lunch (which makes sense, since they have known lunch-eater Johnny Mundo). They needed something interesting to stand out, especially after taking such a roster hit. But in the end, it's not like it's hurting anything. It's a stunt to get more Chikaratopia subscriptions and they're still putting on shows for this year, so it's not like they're doing anything counterproductive.

DC Comics did the same thing about ten years ago and it was their creative swansong.

Anyway, here are the results from all of today's shows. Not too much detail because it's over six hours of stuff:

Season 17: Tabula Rasa

- Mr. Touchdown tries to make amends with Dasher Hatfield by giving him his title shot. Dasher refuses, but the two eventually talk things through and decide to go back to being the Throwbacks.

- The Closers (Hornswoggle's security) defeat the Colony (Fire Ant and Silver Ant).

- Jeremy Leary and Lucas Calhoun end up getting double disqualified. Afterwards, Leary cuts off a chunk of Calhoun's hair and puts it in a baggy.

- Sea Stars defeat a couple of jobbers in red and blue masks with the Chikara logo on them.

- UltraMantis defeats Frightmare. Hallowicked tries to interfere, but Icarus appears out of nowhere and fights him off.

- Juan Francisco and Wani defeat newcomers The Xyberhawx2000

- Hallowicked defeats Mr. Touchdown thanks to Touchdown's knee blowing out.

- In the post-credits, Icarus is shown watching from the "rafters" like Sting.

Season 17: Orientation

- There's a scene of Kimber Lee going to a barber. We don't see the barber, but he has a silver skull propped up in the shop. He asks her about how things have been and the segment ends right before she can get into it.

- Missile Assault Man defeats one of the masked jobbers.

- Solo Darling gets advice from Kimber Lee for her match against the Proletariat Boar. When it comes to the match, the Boar overpowers her and chooses to beat her up excessively instead of trying to actually win. The referee, Travis, disqualifies the Boar since that's against the rules. The Boar shoves him and Travis removes his shirt and tries to fight back. Boar beats him down and is eventually warded off by Kimber Lee.

- Dasher Hatfield defeats Heidi Lovelace.

- Dez Peloton defeat Los Ice Creams after they all collide in the center of the ring and one of the bicycle guys landed on one of the Ice Creams for a pin. Dez Peloton had a hilarious pre-match promo leading into this.

- Rock Lobster vs. Ophidian ends in a double count-out with both too hurt to make it back into the ring.

- Hallowicked and Frightmare defeat the Batiri, who wanted revenge for the whole mind-control/Nazmaldun storyline. Afterwards, Hallowicked brutalize Kodama repeatedly. Kobald shows up, but chooses not to save Kodama and instead walks away. Obaryon helps carry Kodama out of the arena and now Kodama is on the company's alumni page.

- After the credits, Travis Huckabee confronts Quackenbush, hands him his ref shirt and declares himself ready.

Season 17: Left Behind

- Hype Rockwell confronts Race Jaxon over leaving him high and dry at the end of last season. Race wasn't happy with Hype accidentally hitting him a couple times, but tries to make peace in the smarmiest way. The two agree to get back on the same page, but shake hands a little too hard.

- Ophidian is shown on a park bench, having a one-way conversation with someone about their history and how what happened isn't the other person's fault.

- Officer Warren Barksdale defeats Hermit Crab by disqualification after Cajun Crawdad gets involved. Afterwards, the Crab People handcuff Barksdale and beat him up while Quack commentates that Barksdale has nobody to back him up.

- Kobald cuts a crazed, Gollum-like promo about how Nazmaldun's voice is gone from his head and now he feels so alone. He then defeats a masked jobber.

- Fire Ant defeats newcomer Razerhawk. Afterwards, the two shake hands.

- Sonny Defarge goes to the barbershop and asks to look more dashing while refusing to remove his hat.

- Sea Stars and Solo Darling defeat Kimber Lee and Los Ice Creams when a guy in a shiny skull mask appears behind the entrance curtain to distract Kimber Lee. Kimber Lee is rolled up by Solo and then wanders towards the back for answers.

- Travis Huckabee defeats Nytehawk.

- Crummels and Defarge defeat NRG by count-out. Race leaves at one point and while Hype is fighting on the outside, Race shoves over a big piece of the arena's display and it lands on Hype. Race just glares at him from above. Officials run out to see to Hype and he's currently on the alumni page on the site.

- Post-credits, we see that Ophidian is talking to Amasis' mask. Ophidian swears that he'll bring war to Hallowicked and bring Amasis peace.

SIX UNSEEN WRESTLING SHOWS LATER...

Season 18: National Pro Wrestling Day

- YLC: Space Monkey defeats Delmi Exo, Ashley Vox and Merlok. Merlok is a fat fish guy who's treated as a beast. He singlehandedly defeats both of the Sea Stars via Emerald Fusion.

- YLC: Cornelius Crummels defeats Cajun Crawdad, Evertt Connors and Razerhawk. Connors appears to be from outside the company, but he had a great gimmick that involved carrying around a cardboard cutout of Justin Bieber.

- YLC: Travis Huckabee defeated Travis Gordon, Fly Warrior and Sonny Defarge. Afterwards, it's shown that he and Solo Darling are seemingly an item.

- YLC: The Whisper defeats Sylverhawk, Steven Mainz and Hermit Crab. The Whisper comes to the ring in the shiny skull mask that distracted Kimber Lee in Season 17. He's all dark and emo and carries a yo-yo for some reason.

- Race Jaxon defeats Missile Assault Man. Jaxon now has a Rick Martel gimmick.

- Hallowicked, Frightmare and Kobald defeat the Colony (Fire Ant, Silver Ant and Soldier Ant). Frightmare puts Worker Ant in a modified sleeper/choke while his partners lay out the rest of the Colony. This goes on for a few moments until the Sea Stars and Icarus chase them off. Icarus is now wearing a trench coat.

I should note that Hallowicked's team ambushed the Colony to start the match, so it didn't seem too odd that Hallowicked didn't have the championship with him.

- YLC: Space Monkey defeats Crummels.

- YLC: Whisper defeats Travis Huckabee. With the ref distracted, Whisper hits him in the junk with the yo-yo and then pins him.

- Chuck Taylor TM comes out to sing for a bit, mainly to make the crowd happy after 1) the lack of intermission and 2) the England King of Trios announcement.

- The Force (Officer Warren Barksdale and Officer Bruno Meloni) defeat the Closers. The Force bring out a dog dressed up as a police officer named Officer Magnum and he has his own profile page on the website. The Force are awarded their third point despite this being the first time we've ever seen Meloni, which is the moment when some of the people in the crowd start to realize that something's up.

- Juan Francisco makes Dasher Hatfield tap out.

- UltraMantis Black walks to the ring to cut a promo. He makes it seem like it's about returning from retirement and going after Hallowicked, but he opens his robe to reveal that he's already wearing the Grand Championship. He swears that he'll be unstoppable from here on out.

- YLC: Space Monkey defeats Whisper.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

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KungFu Grip posted:

Was NPWD treating people like they should be familiar with these new people already and these turns and not like they were new an shocking or whatever?

Usually for stuff like Young Lions Cup, which features a ton of new guys as is, Quack doesn't outright point out how they're straight out of the Wrestle Factory. Or at least, he never makes a big deal out of it because it's redundant. He basically skirted the line by not making a big deal out of them being newcomers, but never outright referencing that they've been around already. The only thing that raised an eyebrow from me was when he referred to Cornelius Crummels as being part of a decorated tag team, which is not how you'd describe a couple guys who made their first appearance back in September.

While there were some noticeable changes that play off of the secret season, they were all things that could be explained. Race Jaxon was last seen walking off during a tag match, so having him suddenly being a heel with a different gimmick made sense, even if it was abrupt. Icarus chasing off Hallowicked's gang fit with the story we knew, though his trench coat seemed like an odd fashion choice. Travis Huckabee being a wrestler wasn't too weird and his relationship with Solo Darling fit with how she ended season 16. The Force having three points was a definite "wait, what?" moment, but it could have been a screw-up by Vlad. Even UltraMantis having the belt on him could have been played off as "UltraMantis chased off Hallowicked at the end of season 16 and stole his belt at some point." He didn't outright mention being the champion.

So it was ultimately just a bunch of minor things that culminated together with the announcement that this was season 18 and season 17 was a streaming thing.

I'm interested in if the tag titles will play into season 17 since the (so-called) current tag champs Mustache Mountain are now part of WWE's British division.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

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Mel Mudkiper posted:

He was probably actually injured and either got a second opinion or decided "gently caress it"

The injury happened in a very un-Chikara way so I doubt it was a work from the beginning

It was weird because the injury was outside of the ring and away from the camera, but it 100% worked into the story. The whole thing was that for Trios, Mantis had to put together a three-man combination where the choices were him, two guys he trusted and one guy who was a blatant liability. So logically, it had to be Mantis/Batiri, but for dramatic reasons they needed to fit Oleg in there. So Mantis announced his injury and reluctantly put Oleg in his spot, leading to his retirement where he oversold the injury by being bound to a wheelchair for over a year.

Though if he really had a bad injury and had to step away, the whole way they played it is very similar to what happened to Amasis.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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DM Punk posted:

CHIKARA in 12 months has really changed. Feels like 70% of the roster is gone now.

For the hell of it, looking at the roster page, they list 54 wrestlers currently. 6 of them don't really count for one reason or another: Tyler Bate and Trent Seven (in England and with WWE), Big Deal (high-profile part-timer), Mr. Azerbaijan (secondary gimmick with only one appearance in 2016), Worker Ant (possibly taken out with a career-ending injury?) and Officer Magnum (a dog). That leaves 48.

Chikara guys who've been around for at least a few years: Fire Ant, Silver Ant, Hallowicked, Frightmare, UltraMantis Black, Icarus, Ophidian, Mr. Touchdown, Dasher Hatfield, DUSTIN, El Hijo del Ice Cream, Ice Cream Jr., Juan Francisco de Coronado, Lucas Calhoun, Missile Assault Man, Argus, Bullet Ant, Race Jaxon, Kobald, Obariyon, Oleg the Usurper, Proletariat Boar, Max Smashmaster, Thunderfrog

Chikara guys who've been around since December 2015: Wani, Officer Barksdale, Officer Meloni, Cajun Crawdad, Rock Lobster, Hermit Crab, Sloan Caprice, Rick Roland, Cornelius Crummels, Sonny Defarge, Solo Darling, Delmi Exo, Ashley Vox, Travis Huckabee, Donald Kluger, Jasper Tippins, Jeremy Leary, Merlok, Nytehawk, Razerhawk, Sylverhawk, Space Monkey, Chuck Taylor TM, the Whisper

So that's 24 old guard and 24 new guys.

And here's all the wrestlers who left since the 2015 season: Amasis, Ashley Remington, Blaster McMassive, Blind Rage, Drew Gulak/Soldier Ant, Eddie Kingston, Flex Rumblecrunch, Heidi Lovelace, Hype Rockwell, Jaka, Jakob Hammermeier, Jervis Cottonbelly, Jigsaw, Kodama, Pinkie Sanchez, Prakash Sabar, Kimber Lee, Shynron, Kevin Condron, Swamp Monster, Nokken (who isn't even on the alumni page), Abominous Rex (who had a single appearance), probably Worker Ant.

"Jervis Cottonbelly has a Money in the Bank title shot" appears to be the "Mike Quackenbush and Shane Storm have 3 points" of this generation.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Endless Mike posted:

Wow, Gavok, I would have never expected you to be anti-dog.

The last few Royal Rumbles will do that.

DM Punk posted:

And Jervis could be in one of the yet unseen Season 17 shows, right?

I'd doubt it, but it is possible. Might as well get any closure on his relationship with Kimber Lee before she's gone. Plus the very first scene in Season 17 is one guy attempting to hand over his title shot, so there could always be some kind of reason for Jervis to do that for UtraMantis.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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So it looks like Worker Ant has been moved over to the alumni section. He's done.

Sunday was an episode of Hour of Power, which fit a lot of stuff:

- Merlok defeated Delmi Exo. Merlok has new gear that makes him look less fat and more imposing. Delmi has a manager/mascot named Jawsolyn, who is a woman in a hammerhead shark costume. She's adorable. Merlok won in what was a pretty one-sided match.

- Oleg the Usurper defeated a jobber in a Chikara logo mask named Hiptoss Henry. Afterwards, he was being interviewed and Kobald appeared, screaming and ranting about how hosed his head is right now and how he needs Oleg's help to fix him. Oleg said that he took an oath never to hurt Kobald, but he still wouldn't help.

- Max Smashmaster defeated Mr. Touchdown despite Touchdown punching out Sidney Bakabella. Turns out this gives Smashmaster his third point, making him #1 contender. Afterwards, they did an interview where Bakabella kept referring to the new female interviewer as "McGuirk."

- Cajun Crawdad defeated another masked jobber, this one named Waistlock Wayne.

- At the May 6 show, they will hold their third Infinite Gauntlet match, meaning there's one to look forward to in Season 17.

- In the :psyduck: moment of the night, Vlad stops announcing when he sees the Whisper enter the arena. The Whisper is followed by A HEADLESS MAN IN A RED JACKET CARRYING AN UMBRELLA. Whisper looks under the ring to find the Lithuanian Snow Troll hiding there, clutching Missile Assault Man's journal. Whisper snatches it away and walks off with his headless companion.

- Silver Ant defeated Travis Huckabee via the Chikara Special: Green. After the match, Frightmare ran out and climbed to the top rope to ambush Silver Ant. Bullet Ant raced out, shoved Silver out of the way and took a top-rope Backstabber from Frightmare. Other faces ran out to check on Bullet Ant with Quack on commentary pointing out that he just had surgery on a herniated disc in his back. So he's probably done, meaning we're down to just Fire Ant and Silver Ant.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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El Gallinero Gros posted:

Judging by some of the stuff said by ex-Chikara talent in the past, my guess is he either wanted to work elsewhere and Quack wouldn't allow it, or he fell out of love with the business.

I imagine it's the latter. He hits me as someone who has more important poo poo to do these days and his wrestling career's run its course, so he's moving on.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Sendai Girls have been announced for King of Trios. Also, they're doing a Game of Thrones theme this year.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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thelazyblank posted:

Do we know how many batches there are and are they normal 2-3 hour shows? I may want to have a Chikarathon at some point in the near future to catch up with all the nonsense, but I'd prefer having some heads up into what I'm jumping into.

There appears to be three batches of three shows each. At least, nine shows are listed currently. Each show is roughly an hour and fifteen minutes long.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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RacistGuidingLight posted:

This is largely untrue. People generally like my posts and my upbeat attitude.

I do enjoy your posts on a regular basis and I find your humor very witty, which makes your threadshitting more unfortunate.

How could you?

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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CombineThresher posted:

What makes me sad about Chikara now is that before Quack's stupid idea to shut the promotion down for a year, they had a lot of buzz and really fun characters on their shows. All that went down the drain for that Ashes storyline, and what's worse is the crowds who still go see them aren't nearly as reactive as they were pre-Ashes.

It's a little more than that, I feel. I think Chikara was overall killing it from 2007 to mid-2012. Even when things were at their least exciting, it was still pretty solid and all of their iPPVs were must-watch. Then in the latter part of 2012, basically after King of Trios, everything fell apart. Storylines just kind of petered off. Eddie Kingston was apparently supposed to drop the title at least twice (Sara Del Rey and Tim Donst), but plans changed and they couldn't figure out what to do with him. Quack appeared to have a heel turn coming up, which had a ton of potential, but then they went with a Jigsaw heel turn instead, which wasn't nearly as interesting (though Jigsaw and Shard made a pretty good tag team). The season finale was especially a creative disaster.

Then, just as they were slowly but surely starting to dig their way out of that rut, Ashes hit. Maybe if they still had some momentum it could have been more forgivable, but the one-two punch of latter-2012 and Ashes hurt them bad.

Anyway, I finished watching the latest batch of Season 17 shows. The latest Infinite Gauntlet is mostly boring in the first half (outside of the Closers drawing #1 and #2 and casually thumb wrestling instead of actually battling it out), but picks up in the second half.

It has probably the biggest laugh I've gotten from a Chikara show in a while. Both members of Dez Peloton are in the match and one of their trademarks is that double-team move the World's Greatest Tag Team used to do, the Broken Arrow. The one where one guy holds the opponent by the ankles and drapes their chest over the top rope while the other teammate bounces across the ropes, does a leapfrog and lands on the opponent's back. Kluger is holding Hermit Crab for this move and in the middle of it, he realizes, wait, he can just throw Hermit Crab over the top rope. So he does. Meanwhile, Tippins bounces the ropes and has this reaction of "Dude, what the hell?! ...YAY!"

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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They did another Hour of Power show yesterday. Nothing major happened.

- Mr. Touchdown defeated a jobber.

- Ophidian did an interview where he mentioned that at WrestleMania weekend, he's issuing an open challenge.

- Jeremy Leary defeated Travis Huckabee in a match with a pretty awesome ending outside of a fan trying to get involved. Leary kept doing the Ophidian hand gesture throughout the match. Afterwards, he took part in an interview where he mentioned how fired up he was over losing to Ophidian recently, so he accepts the open challenge.

- Hermit Crab and Cajun Crawdad defeated a couple of jobbers. Afterwards, they were about to do an interview, but a crazed Frightmare showed up. He started screaming stuff at the camera while holding Silver Ant's mask, but he wasn't mic'd, so nobody knows what he said.

- The Whisper defeated Fire Ant cleanly in a pretty good match. After the match, Whisper, Lithuanian Snow Troll (now just Troll) and the weird headless guy (referred to as Mortimer) walked over to the interview area. Whisper shushed the interviewer and they once again had Mortimer open his coat as a projector screen. A projected promo appeared on it with Whisper cryptically offering help to Jeremy Leary for some reason.

- Merlok vs. Razorhawk went to a double count-out. It was mostly in Merlok in control, but they need to keep him from the title picture while building him up, so...

- Juan Francisco walked out and cut a promo while sitting in a wheelchair, saying that he's coming for the title and he's going to put UltraMantis back in the chair where he belongs.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Capsaicin posted:

JFDC beat UMB yesterday for the title and Wani beat Space Monkey for YLC.

It took five and a half years and six champs before I looked at who they had as Grand Champion and decided, "Eh, no thanks."

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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DM Punk posted:

Anyone watch the last 3 secret season shows they just released? Just curious how they wrote out Kimnber Lee and Heidi.

I'm off tomorrow, so I'll burn through them then.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Finished watching Season 17. The final batch of shows is WAY better than the two batches that came before them. The shows are longer and the match quality is stronger. Makes sense, seeing as how it's almost like a three-part finale.

WHITE RABBIT

- Ophidian speaks with Fire Ant and Obaryion about starting a team to protect Chikara based on how they've all suffered loss from Hallowicked's group. Icarus shows up to join with them.

- Race Jaxon defeats Ophidian to gain his third point.

- Obariyon defeats Frightmare. Hallowicked shows up towards the end to help Frightmare cheat, but he's immediately tackled by Icarus.

- Officers Barksdale and Meloni are shown training outside. Meloni is excited about getting to be in a Chikara tag team and does a lot of different exercises. Barksdale is exhausted just from doing knee pushups.

- For some reason, the show "begins" here with Vlad coming out to the Chikara theme to welcome everyone and announce the first match. Don't know if this was intentional or if they showed things out of order for pacing reasons. Anyway, Crummels and Defarge defeat Xyberhawx 2000 (Razerhawk and Sylverhawk), earning them a fourth point for tag title contention. You only need three.

- Travis Huckabee cuts a promo backstage about how he traded his referee shirt for wrestling tights because he wants to stand up to bullies. This is followed by a match against Max Smashmaster, who annihilates Travis. He finishes him off with two Tombstones and only makes the pin because Bryce threatens to DQ him if he goes for a third.

- Heidi Lovelace does an emotional promo about how accepted she felt at Chikara and how much the place means to her. Now it's time for her to share what she's learned with the whole world. Her opponent is Arik Cannon and in the promo, she points out that he always pulls his punches against her. Whether that's because she's a woman or because he's sweet on her, he has to fight as hard as he can for the fans' sake. The two then have a hard-hitting match that ends when as they're about to collide, Heidi stops them both, grabs Arik, kisses him, and while he's reacting to that, she rolls him up for a pin. Afterwards, they hug it out and Heidi gets a curtain call to say goodbye, all while she's in tears.

- The Closers, who have three points, are sick and tired of waiting for Mustache Mountain to show up and defend the titles already.

- Hallowicked defeats Wani to retain the Grand Championship. Interesting but very fun heel vs. heel match.

- After the show, the Sea Stars find Heidi Lovelace and ask if she'd mentor them. Heidi is flattered that they'd ask, but sadly says that this is her last day in Chikara. She wishes them good luck and walks out the door with her bag.

WHATEVER HAPPENED, HAPPENED

- Lucas Calhoun stands near his car outside, cutting a promo on Jeremy Leary for trying to steal his identity. He challenges him to a hair vs. hair match.

- Mr. Touchdown congratulates Dasher Hatfield for winning the Infinite Gauntlet and getting a title shot. Feeling that he owes Touchdown in a way, Dasher tells him that he's using the golden opportunity to get them a shot at the tag titles instead of going after Hallowicked.

- Merlok makes his debut by crushing Nytehawk.

- Officer Meloni introduces us to his dog, Officer Magnum. All the while, Barksdale casually drinks from his own boot. Afterwards, the Force defeat a team of masked jobbers.

- Backstage, Kimber Lee is distraught at having to take down her friend Fire Ant, but understands that it's necessary. She then goes on to defeat Fire Ant. She continues to show ruthlessness while seeming devastated over it.

- Crummels and Defarge are getting annoyed that Mustache Mountain aren't around, since they already have four points. They go on to defeat Travis Huckabee and Solo Darling, getting them a fifth point.

- Whisper confronts Kimber Lee and whispers into her ear what he wants next. She reluctantly agrees.

- Lucas Calhoun defeats Jeremy Leary in a hair vs. hair match. When it comes time to cut the hair, Leary tries to leave, but gets pulled back in. Leary starts referring to Calhoun as "big brother" though it isn't clear if he means that literally. He namedrops some random people (ie. some professor) and events and it takes Calhoun aback. Calhoun then loses his temper and says that if he wants his identity, then he can have it. Calhoun angrily shaves his own head and leaves.

- UltraMantis Black defeats Hallowicked to become Grand Champion. Great match with the locker room emptying out to watch from around the ring.

- Solo Darling and Travis Huckabee confront Ophidian. Solo's excited to hear that Ophidian's starting a faction called the Furries, but Ophidian disappoints her by saying they're the Furies. Regardless, Travis says they're in.

THE SHAPE OF THINGS TO COME

- Kimber Lee is at the barbershop, claiming that she "put that skeleton back in the closet" before asking the unseen barber what's up with him. It's a short clip with some creepy music.

- The Force defeat Cajun Crawdad and Hermit Crab.

- Juan Francisco cuts a promo on Missile Assault Man for defeating him and putting him back to zero points. They have a rematch and Juan Francisco wins.

- Fire Ant, Obariyon and Icarus defeat Hallowicked, Frightmare and Kobald.

- Ophidian talks about how disgusted he is with Kimber Lee's actions of late. The two then have a match and while Kimber Lee is as apologetically vicious as she's been this whole season, she keeps looking over towards the entrance as if waiting for something. Finally, Ophidian takes advantage of this and backslides her into a pin. Kimber Lee then runs off towards the back in a panic.

- It's announced that Mustache Mountain have been stripped of the tag titles due to taking too much time to defend them. Instead, the three #1 contender teams (Throwbacks, Crummels and Defarge and the Closers) will compete in a three-way match where the first team to get two falls wins. It's a cool match that paints it where Throwbacks and Closers are practically equals while Crummels and Defarge are beneath them both. After a while, each team picks up a point, all in about a minute apart. In the end, the Closers overpower the Throwbacks and Crummels sneaks off to ring the bell. This confuses the Closers and Sloan Caprice believes that they've won. Instead, Crummels zooms into the ring, crossbodies Sloan, and latches onto the ropes to hold him back while Defarge pins the beaten Mr. Touchdown. Crummels and Defarge are the new tag champs.

- Ophidian talks to all the tecnicos about starting up the Furies and asks them to join his side. The Sea Stars excitedly hold their hands up.

- Race Jaxon does a smarmy promo about how he got into wrestling and it goes on FOREVER.

- UltraMantis Black defeats Race Jaxon and retains the Grand Championship. Race attempts to take off his shirt to show off his body, but his shirt gets stuck. UltraMantis gets tired of waiting, so he proceeds to tear into Race, turning it into a complete squash. After hitting three Preying Mantis Bombs, UltraMantis pins Race.

- After the show, Kimber Lee is confronted by the Whisper. Apparently, their deal was that she'd hurt her friends and in return, he wouldn't tell everyone her secrets. Kimber Lee instead says that she quits and hands him her tiara. As she storms out the door, Whisper plays with his yo-yo. The last shot shows a close-up of the yo-yo, which has a clock design on it. I think this is supposed to tie into the unexplained barber segments (which tend to insinuate that Whisper is the barber), since the counter tends to have a clock sitting in front of all the barber supplies.

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Oct 10, 2005

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DM Punk posted:

What a lame way to write Kimber Lee off.

It wasn't the best, but it gave enough reason for good matches against Fire Ant and Ophidian and helped build up the new bad guy in a way.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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I'm not even mad. That's amazing.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Just a heads up, they're currently streaming the Infinite Gauntlet live on Chikaratopia.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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This Saturday, Chikara's doing their Aniversario show and they're going back to Hellertown for the first time in years. Lots of older names will be showing up. So far announced:

- UltraMantis Black, Dasher Hatfield, Mr. Zero, Icarus and Ophidian vs. Hallowicked, Juan Francisco, Gran Akuma, El Hijo del Ice Cream and Frightmare

- Del Peloton vs. Crummels and Defarge

- Missile Assault Man vs. Oleg the Usurper

- Crossbones vs. Merlok

- Mr. Touchdown and Fire Ant vs. Jigsaw and Arik Cannon

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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So here's the current lineup for King of Trios this year:

1) House Calamari (Chris Brookes, Kid Lykos and Travis Banks)
2) House Rot (Frightmare, Hallowicked and Kobald)
3) House Sendai Girls (Cassandra Miyagi, Dash Chisako and Meiko Satomura)
4) House Xyberhawx (Nytehawk, Razerhawk and Sylverhawk)
5) House Throwback (Mr. Touchdown, Dasher Hatfield and Simon Gotch)

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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https://twitter.com/WarTursas/status/873990035640549376

So we're down to one ant now, huh?

I wasn't at the show, but apparently the Whisper revealed that Ophidian was the fake 17 from the Chikara vs. Flood angle. Sure, why not.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Nope.

https://twitter.com/The__Whisper/status/873646717928865795

As a catch-up because it never really led to anything: during the big Chikara vs. Flood brawl during the National Pro Wrestling Day that announced Chikara's return, 17 was pulled backstage by Quack's cane. In the season that followed, 17 remained a member of the Flood, but whenever Kid Cyclone and the rest of the rookies went after him, Hallowicked and Fire Ant and whoever would step in their way. 17 finally showed his true colors late in the season when he saved a Chikara guy from being murdered by Deucalion and then ran off. Deucalion killed Shard instead and Jimmy Jacobs only found discarded 17 mask and gear littered backstage.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Gavok posted:

So here's the current lineup for King of Trios this year:

1) House Calamari (Chris Brookes, Kid Lykos and Travis Banks)
2) House Rot (Frightmare, Hallowicked and Kobald)
3) House Sendai Girls (Cassandra Miyagi, Dash Chisako and Meiko Satomura)
4) House Xyberhawx (Nytehawk, Razerhawk and Sylverhawk)
5) House Throwback (Mr. Touchdown, Dasher Hatfield and Simon Gotch)

Adding to this: House Furies (Fire Ant, Solo Darling, Travis Huckabee)

In other news, the Johnny Kidd Invitational is streaming on Chikaratopia right now.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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I love that the first Jervis supposedly got kicked out of the company for rummaging through wallets backstage and continued using the gimmick in other feds, but it's the current one who's getting legally banned.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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I don't know how accurate this is, but I was talking to someone who knows this stuff better than I do and supposedly this is the gist:

- Chikara has a game in development for forever. Jervis is going to be in the game.

- Guy playing Jervis has a falling out with Chikara over a number of things. His non-Jervis twitter rants about Chikara. He wrestles as Jervis elsewhere with no issue.

- Chikara game gets greenlit thanks to crowd-funding. Jervis is still intended to be on the roster.

- Guy playing Jervis doesn't like this because he cut ties with them. Wants them to take him out of the game or give him money for it or something along those lines.

- Quack says, "Haha, no. You're not even the first Jervis. You don't own the gimmick, I do. In fact..." then goes and trademarks the gimmick.

So it's less about "You can't be Jervis elsewhere anymore" and more about "We're putting Chikara's character in Chikara's video game and you have no say in the matter."

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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Skinty McEdger posted:

It's all a bit moot though.

The Chikara game will never ever be released.

It kind of has to be released considering the colossally bad look that would come from it being part of a successful crowdfunding thing. At the very least, they have updates on it every now and then, both in emails to backers and on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/ChikaraAAW/status/883425135679733760

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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exploded mummy posted:

That Star Citizen game is gonna come out any day now

I get your point, but I think there's a big difference between getting millions to do a game and sitting on your hands compared to getting thousands to do a side-project, flaking out and still asking people to buy your shows and streaming service. They could not release the game, but that would blow up in their face way more than if they just released a sub-par game.

Though I hope it's actually halfway decent. Back in the days when they had the Chikarmy, fans would get these puzzle games sent to them and they were extremely fun and addicting. Don't know how that would translate into action stuff, but fingers crossed.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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In non-Jervis Chikara news, here's the roster for King of Trios so far:

Casa Dorada (Juan Francisco de Coronado, Cornelius Crummels and Sonny Defarge)
House Attack (Chief Deputy Dunne, Jim Obstruction and Lee Obstruction)
House Calamari (Chris Brookes, Elijah and Kid Lykos)
House Fight Club (Kyle Fletcher, Millie McKenzie and Omari)
House Furies (Fire Ant, Solo Darling and Travis Huckabee)
House Rot (Frightmare, Hallowicked and Kobald)
House Sendai Girls (Cassandra Miyagi, Dash Chisako and Meiko Satomura)
House Seven Seas (Cajun Crawdad, Hermit Crab and Merlok)
House Throwbacks (Dasher Hatfield, Mark Angelosetti and Simon Grimm)
House WhiteWolf (A-Kid, Adam Chase and Zayas)
House Xyberhawx (Nytehawk, Razerhawk and Sylverhawk)
House Bike Cops (Officer Warren Barksdale, Donald Kluger and Jasper Tippins)

Four teams left.

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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

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The fourteenth team for Trios has been announced. House Sport: Danny Boy Collins, James Mason and Mal Sanders. Three old dudes I know nothing about. As it is right now, there are seven in-house teams (though one has Simon Gotch as a third man) and seven guest teams.

One of the current storylines points at Obariyon and the Sea Stars being one of the remaining trios. The angle is that since the secret season, the Sea Stars have been trying to find a mentor to lead them. Then their mascot Jawsolyn got literally fridged by Merlok. Obariyon has stepped up as their mentor and while one Sea Star is completely into it and even has the facepaint and rage going on, the other is reluctant and stays pure, making her the odd woman out.

Otherwise, there's no ready-made trio left on the roster except for maybe Big Deal and his henchmen, but Hornswoggle hasn't shown up since the Season 16 finale.

On another note, they did another one of their weird obscure plot callbacks recently. Back when they did that Ashes movie, they had a scene where Quack met with Derek Sabato and Dieter VonSteigerwalt (the BDK's Bischoff type) and mentioned something about how Dieter's brother would be kept safe. On the show Hide, Silver Ant is given a career-ending injury. On commentary, Quack acts all broken up about it and says, "I’m sorry, Dieter. I made you a promise and I failed." So that's a thing, I guess.

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