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2017 kicks off with Santa Claus machinegunning dozens of people in an Istanbul night club. Everyone thinking 2017 couldn't possibly be worse than 2016 are officially naive as gently caress.
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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:Thankfully, legalized pot has pacified me to the point of simply enjoying the orchestrated firebomb of a mess the world is becoming, instead of actively participating. EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:I more meant post a thread but you do you man this is gip's thesis statement described in action
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Jan 1, 2017 04:27
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Nuclear Tourist posted:2017 kicks off with Santa Claus machinegunning dozens of people in an Istanbul night club. Everyone thinking 2017 couldn't possibly be worse than 2016 are officially naive as gently caress.
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Jan 1, 2017 04:30
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If you had hope for Turkey, then you can add to brain to 2016's enemies list
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Jan 1, 2017 04:47
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https://twitter.com/AnnieLinskey/status/815381403101597696 https://twitter.com/AnnieLinskey/status/815381918254592000 https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/815384382164844544 I swear to loving god if someone takes away my computer at work, I'm going to be loving pissed.
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Jan 1, 2017 04:55
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Distributing pharmaceutical heroin at cost would solve the overdose problem and put black market drug dealers out of business overnight. Addicts don't want to overdose, and if they know the exact dosage of what they're taking very few will. Plus you get the bonus of eliminating most of the petty crime that comes with supporting an expensive habit - heroin costs something like a few cents per gram to produce, but all of the risk in the black market supply chain from interdiction drives that up to something like a hundred dollars by the time it gets to users.
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Jan 1, 2017 04:55
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facialimpediment posted:https://twitter.com/AnnieLinskey/status/815381403101597696 Sure glad our President-Elect is a Luddite!
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Jan 1, 2017 05:03
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Well... this isn't exactly wrong.
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Jan 1, 2017 05:03
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LingcodKilla posted:If it's so strong why cut it with heroin and just sell it as is? Because with the carfentanyl showing up, basically taking any amount that your average junkie has the ability to measure is going to kill your rear end. Carfentanyl's only actual use is as an elephant tranq if I'm recalling correctly. Kids started abusing fentanyl around here a 7 or 8 years ago by lip packing their grandparents chronic pain patches that they fished out of the trash. A couple of them died. This poo poo is tragic.
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Jan 1, 2017 05:06
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I want to see a cyberpunk photoshop of Trump that shows off his sweet hacking skillz
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Jan 1, 2017 05:09
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Naked Bear posted:Well... this isn't exactly wrong. So once again, SecDef Chaos should rip the phone out of his tiny fingers and shoot it due to Unauthorized Usage Of A Dangerous Computer. Really though, it'll be fun how many secrets will be lost to defense couriers on drunken benders that leave files on the passenger seats of their cars. Or the courier messages that consist entirely of 'boners lol' because someone is bored and can't email anymore.
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Jan 1, 2017 05:11
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ARE YOU loving making GBS threads ME HE'S TALKING ABOUT HIS 10-YEAR OLD SON THE COMPUTER GENIUS AGAIN https://twitter.com/svdate/status/815397711591702529
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Jan 1, 2017 05:24
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Getting lectured about how government should work by a 67 year old high school dropout is a great way to ring in the new year. Also a good bookend to 2016 
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Jan 1, 2017 06:14
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Casimir Radon posted:Turkey is a loving shithole, our future is probably better, right?!? RIGHT???!! Friendship ended with NATO Now RUSSIA is my best friend
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Jan 1, 2017 06:16
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Breaking News: Happy New Year from the East Coast. 
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Jan 1, 2017 06:17
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Casimir Radon posted:Turkey is a loving shithole, our future is probably better, right?!? RIGHT???!! Trumpy and Putin will be the bestest butt buddies since Putin and Berlusconi  quote:And he shared reports from opposition party contacts of a more “nefarious” factor: talk that “Berlusconi and his cronies are profiting personally and handsomely” from business ties to Russia. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/vladimir-putin-donald-trump-silvio-berlusconi-227084 A Handed Missus fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Jan 1, 2017 |
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Jan 1, 2017 06:25
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i cannot wait for another full year of trump posts
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Jan 1, 2017 06:59
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Dead Reckoning posted:If your goal is to prevent people from ruining their lives through a crippling addiction, having the government pass out super potent and staggeringly addictive opiates is a little contra-indicated. Is addiction that much more common when it's available? Marijuana's not heroin, but usage hasn't gone up that significantly since legalization in some places. And it's not like addiction was this sort of corpse riddled crisis before the controlled substances act. People who want access will still get access, criminalization just endangers everyone involved.
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Jan 1, 2017 08:31
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Casimir Radon posted:Shootingtracker.com can provide all your data needs. Wasn't this site found to be padding their stats time and time again? Also re: opiates a bunch of folks I went to school with have apparently Totally Not ODed On Pills No Sir lately but everyone is desperately trying to play it off as natural causes. I'd say kicking it from eating a fistful of oxy in Appalachia is a natural loving cause alright.
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Jan 1, 2017 10:12
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I gotta say "The government should dispense heroin" is the most DnD response I could've dreamed of. I have plenty of compassion for drug addicts, but it's morally repugnant to have my tax dollars and my government contribute and support a habit that destroys people's lives. It's just morally wrong. More morally wrong than the status quo.
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Jan 1, 2017 10:15
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I get it, it's a tough pill to swallow to subsidize an addict's habit. However, from a coldly rational cost analysis type of framework, it actually makes more sense to provide addicts with safer doses of "clean" heroin than let them be out there constantly ODing and tying up emergency responders along with their supplies of naloxone required. Additionally, there is also the reduction of crime (addicts won't have to be out stealing your poo poo to fix) and the ability to bring them into the system to get them treatment when they are ready. This can include weaning them off to things like methadone etc. A lot of addicts are fairly functional when not fiending so they would have a chance to also make themselves useful somehow, that'd just be a bonus. The whole "not causing emts and firefighters to drop due to overwork" thing is the primary benefit. I get it though, druggies are loving annoying. But just yelling "get your poo poo together!" or waiting for them to die off just won't work, and are not very compassionate either. I'm not DnD in any way shape or form but this and guaranteed basic income are both things I have come around to in recent years. It's rough at the bottom. And having a crippling chemical dependency makes it worse. And in the long run these programs are pretty likely to actually save society money anyway. Seems win/win to me..
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Jan 1, 2017 10:32
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Just reframe the argument to "drug addicts aren't bad, drugs are bad." But that isn't going to happen.
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Jan 1, 2017 10:37
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I swear, sometimes I cannot - for the life of me - comprehend what your president-elect is trying to say.
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Jan 1, 2017 10:43
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2016: "Bye Felicia."AreWeDrunkYet posted:Is addiction that much more common when it's available? Marijuana's not heroin, but usage hasn't gone up that significantly since legalization in some places. And it's not like addiction was this sort of corpse riddled crisis before the controlled substances act. People who want access will still get access, criminalization just endangers everyone involved.
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Jan 1, 2017 11:17
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2016 was good.
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Jan 1, 2017 11:38
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Nostalgia4Murder posted:2016 was good. Of course you'd say that, Nostalgia4Murder
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Jan 1, 2017 12:12
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Dead Reckoning posted:2016: "Bye Felicia." I'm sick of this felicia poo poo. Pick a new catchphrase already. Goddamn. On the opiates. Why not take a model similar to marijuana, legalize small amounts and tax the gently caress out of it. Then they can take the tax money to subsidize recovery and treatment programs. I mean, if Colorado can spend weed tax money to renovate prisons, why not follow the legalize and tax model. Junkies are going to chase a fix regardless of the source, and if marijuana legalization has shown anything, it's that legal market prices slaughter black market, the quality is significantly better, and the source can be required to have all sorts of licensure and inspections to maintain purity of product. That cuts cartels of out the picture, or at least to a point comparable to that of backwoods moonshiners after prohibition. Some people would still die from buying poo poo product off the smaller black market, but unadulterated product legally available would take fewer lives than the fentanyl and carfentanil poo poo being passed around now. Obviously it's not ideal to legalize narcotics on a grand scale like that, no one wants a society of junkies. But we can't just spout feel good bullshit and throw junkies in jail forever. The stigma is also the attractant for swaths of society. It's why ICP lasted so long. People want garbage. And people want to get high. Whether or not they get to die from stepped on product is reliant on drug laws becoming rapidly progressive, or mulling in still waters. poo poo in one hand, wish in the other.
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Dead Reckoning posted:2016: "Bye Felicia." Like I'm on board with treatment, needles, and methadone being freely available, but I can't get behind free govt smack. I'm all about helping someone who wants help, addiction is awful. I just don't see how we can responsibly hand out life destroying drugs to people without simply enabling current addicts and helping create new ones.
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Jan 1, 2017 12:42
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You can't, really. Junkies have always been and will always be. It's not like opium just showed up from a lab one day. It's wishful thinking at best to think that substance abuse can be eradicated. In terms of saving lives, it's cheaper to let them die right now than save those that seem to not want saving. Besides, it's not like we're in a population shortage.
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Richard Bong posted:Like I'm on board with treatment, needles, and methadone being freely available, but I can't get behind free govt smack. I'm all about helping someone who wants help, addiction is awful. You don't. You create a system where anyone wanting the free smack is helped in every other way to get off that addiction and become a contributing member of society again but "socialism" I suppose.
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Jan 1, 2017 12:57
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Burt posted:You don't. You create a system where anyone wanting the free smack is helped in every other way to get off that addiction and become a contributing member of society again but "socialism" I suppose. lol I don't mean to shitpost, but some people are beyond help. There's a very fine line between harm reduction and enabling, and I think providing free loving heroin takes takes that line and... Well I want to finish that sentence with some sort of wordplay about "line you don't step over" and "doing a line" but you don't really snort heroin and I'm a bit too hungover to make this work properly. point is. Getting people hooked on heroin is not something I want any government doing. Free needles and methadone is unfortunate enough as is, but since it works, I can live with it.
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The Iron Rose posted:I gotta say "The government should dispense heroin" is the most DnD response I could've dreamed of. I have plenty of compassion for drug addicts, but it's morally repugnant to have my tax dollars and my government contribute and support a habit that destroys people's lives. It already happens, just not with heroin. If heroin was legal from day one and passed out by sayyyyyy your doctor, then we would be having this conversation about meth probably.
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Jan 1, 2017 13:48
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Drake will realize how wrong he was when he said "trigger fingers turned into twitter fingers" as a diss when Trump starts a riot, small conflict, or maybe, if we're lucky, a fuckin' war. Here's praying that Trump will perform a decapitation nuclear strike on NK right with sick burns happening live on twitter in real time
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Jan 1, 2017 14:46
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Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:Drake will realize how wrong he was when he said "trigger fingers turned into twitter fingers" as a diss when Trump starts a riot, small conflict, or maybe, if we're lucky, a fuckin' war. Retaliation strike for DPRK news service sick Twitter burns.
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Jan 1, 2017 17:29
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I guess one way to get people to stop saying mean things about you on twitter is to nuke them if they do
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Jan 1, 2017 17:37
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This is the best thing I've seen all year and one of the best ways 2017 could begin. https://twitter.com/thr/status/815596937705586688
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This viral marketing for Pineapple Express 2 is getting out of hand. TBeats posted:It already happens, just not with heroin. If heroin was legal from day one and passed out by sayyyyyy your doctor, then we would be having this conversation about meth probably. But they're already having that conversation in the medical community. Strict rules about narcotic painkiller prescription are the norm now, even in clinical settings, on order to avoid creating even more people with a dependency. Letting people get opioids milder than loving heroin based on a conversation with their doctor about back pain was having serious consequences in terms of addiction. Handing out pure, clean smack on the basis of "I really wanna get high today" is probably going to be measurably worse.
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TBeats posted:This is the best thing I've seen all year and one of the best ways 2017 could begin. In the spirit of harm reduction, I advise everyone to avoid smoking holly leaves.
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I'm smoking some kind of weed called Mandarin Sunset. When the weed shops start carrying poo poo called Holly Leaves, I'll post a smoke report. I love that Doug Benson is one of the top replies for that tweet. CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jan 1, 2017 |
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From a practical ("coldly rational" lmao gently caress off priznat) standpoint: heroin's prohibitive cost and actual prohibition are two strong deterrents to picking it up to begin with. Getting high feels loving great. Eliminating both barriers to getting high by making it free and legal will inevitably create more addicts. And when people inevitably start wondering why they're paying for other people's smack, and the guy who puts it on his platform wins an election, all those new addicts are hosed. From a moral/philosophical standpoint: handing out free drugs to poors to keep them quiet, invisible, and complacent is repellent on its face, regardless of short-term "public health" benefits.
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