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Endless Mike posted:Two Nazis got punched and they're already having an existential crisis and have openly stated that if they can't be in public they can't win. I'm firmly in support of Nazi punching. Everyone should be.
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Endless Mike posted:Two Nazis got punched and they're already having an existential crisis and have openly stated that if they can't be in public they can't win. I'm firmly in support of Nazi punching. Turns out the extreme right are the actual snowflakes who need safe spaces or else they become triggered and literally shake.
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Jan 30, 2017 16:49
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Punching a Nazi must be incredibly satisfying.
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purple death ray posted:Violence is acceptable as a means of excising virulent, existential threats to the common welfare and safety of the people, clear and present dangers to free society, not as a form of enforcing "goodness" or a sustained system of government. Most people who support punching Nazis are also against police brutality and the death penalty. Hth This isn't really the place to argue it tbh but Trump was elected legally and Richard Spencer was just exercising his right to free speech when he was punched, but when I'm radically opposed to "civil" evil I get called a delusional fascist. I support Nazi punching! Excising virulent existential threats to the common welfare and safety of the people is what I'm all about. Ergo Judge Dredd is good and cool.
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Jan 30, 2017 17:00
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You're less a delusional fascist and more of a callow child, honestly.
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Jan 30, 2017 17:07
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I can legally drink in a few months! 
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Like, serious post. This is the first day in weeks that I actually feel like myself again. Which is such a strange feeling but goddamn if I'm not finding things to smile about today despite all the terrible things hanging over my head right now.
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That's great Rhyno! Really, good for you.
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Rhyno posted:Everyone should be. I know! But a lot of people aren't! EDIT: Rhyno posted:Like, serious post.
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WickedHate posted:That's great Rhyno! Really, good for you. I don't know if it will last but it's really nice to feel like me again.
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Jan 30, 2017 17:14
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Rhyno posted:Like, serious post. 
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Rhyno posted:Like, serious post. You got to punch a loving Nazi, didn't you? So drat jealous!
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Jan 30, 2017 17:30
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Punching someone for being a nazi isn't a first amendment issue.
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WickedHate posted:This isn't really the place to argue it tbh but Trump was elected legally and Richard Spencer was just exercising his right to free speech when he was punched, but when I'm radically opposed to "civil" evil I get called a delusional fascist. I support Nazi punching! Excising virulent existential threats to the common welfare and safety of the people is what I'm all about. Many of us who generally find violence abhorrent have found relatively solid philosophical and ethical grounds to make an exception for nazis. If someone attempts to popularise the idea of committing genocide against an entire race, and has any hope at all of those ideas gaining traction (as they have in the US,) then I would argue that the existential threat they represent to an entire people is at least equal to a direct physical threat against one person. If I would feel comfortable with using violence to stop violence in an immediate, one-on-one situation, then I must feel equally comfortable with an oppressed minority using violence to defend themselves against the views of an individual or group who would see them destroyed just for existing, i.e. punching a recognised spokesperson for the alt-right (read: a loving nazi,) who is well known for musing on the appropriate way to commit genocide against black people. It's important to remember that, for some people, this is not an abstract or hypothetical situation. If someone were to declare that I and everyone like me must be destroyed, in a setting where people like me were already being murdered by authority figures with astonishing regularity, I would feel entirely justified clocking that someone in the head on live television. If those factors were further compounded by a new head of state who has explicitly sided with the occasionally-murderous authority figures, while adding his own flavours of oppression on top, then an act of violent resistance might cease to be merely justified, and might feel like a necessity. In short, the punching of Richard Spencer didn't symbolise the use of violence to change the system or enforce an ethical standard, it symbolised a people's struggle to survive in a country that keeps trying to destroy them. Just my two cents.
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If you or anyone else wants to PM me about this I am super down for discussing it but I don't wanna gently caress up the thread. Then again January is over so I guess it doesn't matter much.
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Or you can punch nazis
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WickedHate posted:That's exactly how we got the Justice Lords. Yes my concern is also the leftist protesters and not the guy who's literally trying to ban Muslims
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site posted:Yes my concern is also the leftist protesters and not the guy who's literally trying to ban Muslims I'm not sure you're really aware of my position at all. My issue is that protesters haven't been radical enough in their opposition. I have no idea how you got whatever you read into it. WickedHate fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Jan 30, 2017 |
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I think today I am going to read Uncle Sam by Farmall and Ross. It seems timely enough.
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There's this real underrated book from the eighties called Young All-Stars set during WWII that had a Japanese hero quit the team and join her family in a detainment camp in solidarity. Powerful scene. Still relevant. Should try and get my hands on some copies again some time.
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If anyone is losing hope in the USA right now I suggest reading Prez's story in Sandman which can be found in the World's End TPB. Also take hope in the fact that people are protesting and not standing up for this bullshit, and that the ACLU has been receiving record donations (and could always use more money too). Edit: I forgot to mention that yesterday 6 people were killed in a mosque in Quebec City. While I live on the opposite side of the country as a Canadian this hurts really badly. Please do me a favour and tell your loved ones that you love them, play with your pets, give food to a homeless person, donate to a charity or do something good today just to remind the world that there is still good out there. Madkal fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Jan 30, 2017 |
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I think I should be allowed to define Nazism for the purposes of punching Nazis so I can justify punching people I dislike personally. I can see no flaw in this plan because I alone possess moral clarity. 
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Jan 30, 2017 21:58
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Yeah its really hard to delineate Nazism, like what if they promote expulsion of certain religions, ethnicities, and sexualities but don't call themselves a Nazi what then
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site posted:Yeah its really hard to delineate Nazism, like what if they promote expulsion of certain religions, ethnicities, and sexualities but don't call themselves a Nazi what then Republicans need to be punched in the face.
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Jan 30, 2017 22:12
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I suppose the closest thing to a Nazi I know personally is this young fellow from my church who has some kind of autism who latched onto these poorly-defined far-right politics as basically his one and only interest. Since he is a distant relative, my mother says we must all pretend to like him, which can be most trying.
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Mr Hootington posted:Republicans need to be punched in the face. I don't know many American politicians beyond the very prominent ones but my least favourite is Peter King, who's a congressman from Boston and a Republican, because he was a big NORAID guy back in the 1980s then did a prompt about-face after 9/11 and decided that interrogation methods amounting to torture were acceptable when they were being used against the right kind of terrorists.
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site posted:Yeah its really hard to delineate Nazism, like what if they promote expulsion of certain religions, ethnicities, and sexualities but don't call themselves a Nazi what then Kill everyone and let Jack Kirby sort'em out.
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site posted:Yeah its really hard to delineate Nazism, like what if they promote expulsion of certain religions, ethnicities, and sexualities but don't call themselves a Nazi what then Anyone advocating those things is a Nazi.
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I'm going to let the couple of you who don't seem to know in on a secret. Republicans are nazis. 
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Endless Mike posted:"Alt-right"-style Nazis don't call themselves Nazis. Richard Spencer got punched in the middle of explaining that he's not a Neo-Nazi or KKK because "those guys don't like [him]". that was my point yes i was blasting wheat loaf's dumbass argument
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site posted:that was my point yes i was blasting wheat loaf's dumbass argument Nah, I wasn't making an argument, I was only joking about.
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It's okay to punch fascists even if they don't personally identify as nazis.
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I think we should all rely on the words of one of the pre-eminent minds of the civil rights movement. "We are nonviolent with people who are nonviolent with us"
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My surefire way of coping with the terribleness of the world is helping when I can and otherwise ignoring it as hard as possible, to an almost Stepford Wives degree.
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I don't think even the most generous observer would refer to my day-to-day life as "coping"
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Basically I'm just going to run around in a Captain America costume punching people. Then I'll claim those people are Nazis.
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Here's something comics related to feel sad about. Insanely talented artist, Bernie Wrightson, has effectively retired because of limited function due to illness. https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/01/30/legendary-comic-artist-bernie-wrightson-retires-drawing/ quote:Dear Fans and Friends, 
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pubic works project posted:Basically I'm just going to run around in a Captain America costume punching people. Then I'll claim those people are Nazis. Well captain america is a nazi now so punching random people and deflecting blame would fit E: ^^^^ drat thats some good art
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One of the greatest of all time. Existing at this point in space and time is so exhausting.
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