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Secret History Dominion is a deck-builder designed by Donald X. Vaccarino (commonly referred to as Donald X. or DXV) and published by Rio Grande games. If you're in this thread, you probably know what a deck-building game is...but if you don't, the gist is that each player starts every game with a small, identical hand of cards, and builds their deck from a supply as play progresses. These cards range from money (to buy more cards), actions, victory points, and other esoteric types. There are all sorts of products to buy for Dominion. This game has been around for a while and has lots and lots and lots of expansions and other products: Dominion, where it all started (sort of...you may notice the big "Second Edition" banner on this box; I'll address that in the FAQ) BGG Page(Second Edition) Secret History(Second Edition) Intrigue, the 1st expansion. Themed around offering choices between multiple effects. The BGG Page(Second Edition) Secret History(Second Edition) Seaside, the 2nd expansion. Introduced Duration cards which have an effect when played and another effect later on. The second expansion to have received the Second Edition treatment BGG Page (Second Edition) Secret History (Second Edition) Alchemy, the 3rd expansion. Has a unique currency co-existing with normal treasure, and cards with many actions. A small-size expansion. BGG Page Secret History Prosperity, the 4th expansion. Adds higher valued treasure and victory cards, and generally focuses on accumulating and spending wealth BGG Page (Second Edition) Secret History(More Secret History) (Second Edition) Cornucopia, the 5th expansion. Rewards building decks and drawing hands with a wide variety of cards. A small-size expansion. Not sold separately in English any longer; only available bundled with Guilds (see FAQ). BGG Page Secret History Hinterlands, the 6th expansion. Contains many cards that have special effects when purchased and gained, instead of just when played. BGG Page (Second Edition)Secret History (Second Edition) Dark Ages, the 7th expansion. Focuses on trashing (permanently discarding) cards and interacting with said trash pile. Even among the larger expansions, this one is BIG. BGG Page Secret History Guilds, the 8th expansion. The final expansion in the "original vision" for Dominion from Donald X. Introduces coin tokens and special effects from overpaying for cards. A small-size expansion. Not sold separately in English any longer; only available bundled with Cornucopia (see FAQ). BGG Page Secret History Adventures, the 9th expansion. Brings back the popular concept of Duration cards from Seaside, as well as introducing cards that get set aside and called back into play later. Also the debut of Events. These are landscape-oriented, and provide an effect when bought, but do not enter your deck like normal cards. BGG Page Secret History Empires, the 10th expansion. A couple more Duration cards, more Events, and also introduces Landmarks. These are siblings to Events; landscape oriented, never enter your deck. Most of these provide new ways to score victory points or change the overall scoring conditions. Also has some cards that you buy now and pay for later via Debt tokens, and split piles that have two different types of cards in them. BGG Page Secret History Nocturne, the 11th expansion. This one was just announced on August 3rd, 2017; so details are a bit sparse as of yet, but here's it's blurb from BGG: "It has 500 cards, with 33 new Kingdom cards. There are Night cards, which are played after the Buy phase; Heirlooms that replace starting Coppers; Fate and Doom cards that give out Boons and Hexes; and a variety of extra cards that other cards can provide." BGG Page Secret History Renaissance, the 12th expansion. Announced August 4th, 2018. "This is the 12th expansion to Dominion. It has 300 cards, with 25 new Kingdom cards. There are tokens that let you save coins and actions for later, Projects that grant abilities, and Artifacts to fight over." BGG Page Secret History Menagerie, the 13th expansion. Announced January 8th, 2020. "This is the 13th expansion to Dominion. It has 400 cards, with 30 new Kingdom cards. There are Horses that save a draw for later, Exile mats that cards can be sent to and rescued from, and Ways that give Actions another option. Events return." BGG Page Secret History Allies, the 14th expansion. It has 400 cards, with 31 new Kingdom card piles. There are Allies that will do Favors for you, and split piles you can rotate. BGG Page Secret History Plunder, the 15th expansion. It has 500 cards, with 40 new Kingdom cards. It has lots of Treasures and Durations, with cards that give you Loot, and Traits that modify piles. Events return. BGG Page Secret History Base Cards, not a regular expansion. This box contains a new set of all the "base" dominion cards (the basic money and victory cards that will be present in every game, plus Potions from Alchemy and Platinum and Colony from Prosperity). At the time of its original release, the Base Cards box was the only way to get fancy new art on these basic cards, but the aforementioned Second Edition of Dominion made the fancy art the new standard. This is a purely optional 'upgrade' product if you have older sets, or useful for if your basic cards are starting to show wear and tear. Update Packs, not regular expansions. If you already own the first editions of the base game and Intrigue, these packs will get you the new cards needed to make your sets Second Edition compliant. BGG Page Base BGG Page Intrigue BGG Page Seaside BGG Page Prosperity BGG Page Hinterlands Secret History Promo Cards, not regular expansions. Like many modern board games, Dominion has a handful of Promo cards; these are one-offs (mostly stacks of ten, as per usual) that are not gathered into multi-card expansions. Sauna/Avanto is a 5/5 split pile, Summon is an Event. Secret History Blank Cards, not a regular expansion. If you want to make your own custom Dominion cards (either for a fan expansion or to proxy something you don't yet own) you can buy them from BoardGameGeek. Many expansions also include a couple blanks. jivjov fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Dec 27, 2022 |
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Reserved for FAQ and other stuff. Work in progress FAQ Q. Do I need to buy all of Dominion to enjoy it? A. Not at all! The base game alone will last you a dozen or more plays, all by itself! Buy more expansions only if and when you feel like you need more new cards in your life. Q. What order should I buy these myriad expansions in? A. It is generally accepted to be best to pick up expansions in the order in which they were released. Expansions tend to introduce more complexity as they go along. Intrigue will make sense to a group that only has a few plays in the core game, Adventures or Empires not so much. The one possible exception to this rule would be Alchemy. Alchemy is seen as the black sheep of the Dominion family, and is widely considered to be the least popular expansion. It can be a lot of fun, and it isn't objectively bad, but unless you know for sure that you want to introduce Potions and the like to your games; save it for last. If you'd like the designer's take on this question, Donald gives his shockingly comprehensive answer right over here, up to and including "I like X expansion in particular, what's best after that one?" Q. I can't find Cornucopia or Guilds at my FLGS, what gives? A. Those two small-size expansions are no longer sold individually, and instead come in a large-expansion-sized combo box: BGG Page Q. How do I track down all these Promo cards? A. Most promos are readily available at the BoardGameGeek store. Ebay is also your friend. Q. Do I need to track down all those Promo cards? A. For completion's sake, yes...but otherwise just pick them up as the mood strikes you. Some promos do weird and interesting things (Black Market lets you buy cards that aren't in your current game's supply, Stash has a unique cardback and is placed into your deck wherever you want it every time you shuffle, etc), others are just regular cards that were set aside for promos because a magazine, convention, etc wanted one. Donald X. himself is lukewarm on the whole concept of Promos, holding the opinion that if a card is good enough to be in Dominion at all, it should be included in a normal retail set for people to just buy. Q. What's the deal with those "Secret History" links that are so helpfully listed in the OP? A. Donald X. has extensively discussed the history of Dominion, its development, the theming behind expansions, and detailed design notes on every single card. These are referred to as the Secret Histories. Q. What's with this whole Second Edition thing? A. After the mid-2016 release of Empires, Donald X. decided to revisit the base game and the first expansion and make some modifications. 6 cards from each set were removed (weaker cards, less popular cards) and 7 new and improved ones were added. The base cards in the core game are now themed after the fancy art versions from the Base Cards product. Intrigue used to be a "standalone" expansion (it included the base treasure and victory cards needed to play the game), the Second Edition of Intrigue is no longer standalone. Besides the removed and replaced cards, some general layout and formatting changes were introduced. Things like +1 Action or +2 Cards are now printed in bold, cards with not much text are now printed in a larger font, the pronouns on cards are now "they" rather than "he", etc. Q. Should I hold out for Second Editions of other expansions besides Intrigue? A. No. Donald X. has stated that there are no plans for Second Edition treatments for any of the other released expansions. Future printings of Seaside and beyond will include the minor formatting changes detailed above (bolding, larger type, 'they' pronouns, etc) but no cards will be removed or replaced. The first printing of Empires already has these changes. On a purely pedantic note, reprints of Alchemy and Prosperity will have the fancy art cards for Potion, Platinum, and Colony. 2022 Update: Seaside is getting a Second Edition rerelease as well--9 new cards being added, the official announcement does not mention for sure how cards are being removed. Update pack for Seaside Confirmed, but just like Base and Intrigue, cards with minor errata updates will not be in the update pack, only the brand new cards. 2022 Update 2: Prosperity and Hinterlands are also getting the 2nd Ed. treatment. 9 cards out, 9 cards in, update packs confirmed, again with no minor errata included, just the new cards Q. So just where am I supposed to put all these cards? A. The worst part of owning all of Dominion is figuring out your own answer to this question. The inserts that come in each game box aren't bad...but have zero support for sleeved cards, and keep your entire collection divided between 10-12 different boxes. My current method is an organizer from The Broken Token (2022 Update: direct link removed. Google if you want, but I will not funnel traffic to the sex pest that's still CEO) (They also sell just the wooden insert, if you have your own artist case from Hobby Lobby), combined with plastic dividers from Spielgeek (Do ignore the amateur-hour look of his website, I have trusted this random internet man with my money 4 different times and haven't been disappointed or robbed yet). The finished product looks like this: Note that if you sleeve your cards, like I do, you won't have room for all the tokens and mats and everything in the same box as all your Kingdom cards. Q. Referring to all these rulebooks is unwieldy...is there a better reference for that? A. Check out the Complete Dominion Companion. Its a fan-made document, but has the blessing of DXV and RGG. Has rules text for every card, non-card object, and token in the game; including Donald's Secret Histories. Dominion Online https://dominion.games/ is the home of the current official implementation of online Dominion. It's very much a work in progress. While gameplay is functional, the art design is rather bare, no music or sound effects, etc. Online FAQ posted:Offline Chris is me jivjov fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Dec 29, 2022 |
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Dr Tran posted:Storage recommendations, go If you look at my handy dandy FAQ, I just edited in my own personal storage solution
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2017 01:24 |
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Toshimo posted:Does that hold all the xpacs up through Empires? Sort of...I have the tokens and mats off in the core game box. Empires + the Second Edition cards took up too much from for it to truly be a one-box-solution any longer...but its still handy Dr Tran posted:Are they all sleeved as well? Yep; Mayday Games penny sleeves. I did a bulk order of something like 90 packs from my secondary FLGS and sleeved EVERYTHING while binge-watching Daredevil. I keep a couple packs of sleeves in my secondary storage box in case any split or rip. jivjov fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Feb 1, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 1, 2017 01:35 |
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Just got my email to sign up for the new online client. It feels pretty rough..but I haven't actually played a game yet
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2017 03:36 |
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Pierzak posted:What's with that? Did the game get diluted later just so they could sell more expansions, or what? Is DXV's original vision good, bad, or some nebulous concept he once mentioned offhand in an interview? There's a whole series of "Secret History" articles where DXV talks about his design choices, both for individual expansions/cards and for Dominion as a whole (here's a link to the one about Dominion itself). By the time Guilds came out, DXV had run through all his original ideas. To make a long story short, he came up with a couple hundred card ideas, divided them into various expansion sets and got them made. After that, he said that Dominion expansions would come out less frequently, and basically whenever he had enough good ideas. Hence Adventures and Empires both having pretty big handfuls of new ideas (Events, Landmarks, Tavern mat, travellers, etc) My specific word choice of "original vision" was more of an in-joke with myself, referring to George Lucas' oft repeated mantras of having an "original vision" for Star Wars
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2017 04:07 |
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unpronounceable posted:Does anyone know if Spielgeek will sell dividers for individual sets on request? $108 is a lot to ask for when I only have 4 sets, and the Canuck-buck is low. He's always been really responsive to emails; you might just try shooting him one and asking. Roluth posted:I love digital Dominion so much that I couldn't stop myself from grabbing all the Dominion expansions if I tried to buy the physical cards and spend all my money. So I'll just have to play the online version instead. Has there been any previews/first impressions of the new client yet? It's amateur-hour, the program at the moment. It functions, but that's about it. Everything except the card images is just plain text and symbols; none of the mats or tokens have a visual representation, there's no music or sound effects. It works if you want to play some Dominion...but all the bells and whistles are in development.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2017 11:52 |
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Castles are, in concept, one of my new favorites...but I've only ever got them on the table once, and they were overloooked in favor of other Kingdom cards. I feel Castles are going to be one of those cards that brings out the indirect player interaction that I love so much in the game; especially with 3-4 players, it will be a delicate dance of when to buy and when to pass: because buying could give your opponents access to the better ones before you can come back to your turn.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2017 18:38 |
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Bottom Liner posted:Speaking of sleeves, does everyone just use penny sleeves or what? Also, what was that organizing tray that holds the kingdom cards someone recommended in the board game thread a while back? It was tiered and held them at a slight angle. Deffo penny sleeves. Unless you're made of money.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2017 02:02 |
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Dammit, I've purchased two different game trays for Dominion at this point, now I'm looking at a third. Put this on a lazy susan type thing and it's perfect
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2017 15:59 |
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Guy A. Person posted:
Landmarks and Events both are brilliant places for the design of Dominion to have gone. Giving new options without necessarily having to take up a slot in the Kingdom is great.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 18:47 |
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Impermanent posted:has anyone shelled out 35 dollars for Disappearing Dominion Online? is it any good? I want to play dominion at work. I've not given them any money yet; so I'm just playing with the small handful of expansions I got carried over from MakingFun's version...but its a tolerable web app. Incidentally, you don't have to give them $35 if you don't want to; the Date box on the checkout screen is a dropdown, and you can sub for as little as one month.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 03:09 |
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Just had a fun online game where I narrowly won only because I won the split on the Duke pile. Ended up buying the last remaining Curse just to trigger a 3-pile ending before my opponent could start snapping up provinces (I greened a bit too early and my deck wasn't as efficient as I needed it to be) EDIT: That said; I wouldn't have played it like that if we hadn't had VP counters on. jivjov fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Jan 5, 2017 |
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Lorini posted:Here is the FAQ for the dominion.games client. I would suggest it being added to the OP. Will do.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 18:12 |
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Yeah, I can count on one hand the number of times I've purchased copper or estates. Usually when I have something fun to combo specifically with it, like Bishoping an Estate.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 20:42 |
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Bottom Liner posted:dominion.games is completely making GBS threads the bed today. Games ending immediately, tables not loading, error messages popping up unrelated to what you click, etc. Not giving these fucks a dime. Software is 1) in beta and 2) until today been pretty stable all things considered. Swearing it off forever seems a bit...harsh.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 21:37 |
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sector_corrector posted:It's sort of weird playing new people who are multiple times worse than the random bot on Dominion.NET. Anyway, fooling around with the base set has made me realize how cool the replacement 2.0 cards are for Vanilla Dominion. Opening a 5/2 with Bandit is crippling. Yeah, speaking of buying coppers, I played a guy who cleared out the estate pile on his own, cause that's about all you can get when your deck is like 80% copper.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 00:59 |
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Dancer posted:Hey, so I don't want to spam this thread all day asking for strategic advice. Just want to put an open invite out there to anyone who's more competent at this game than me (basically anyone, really) to invite me to a game at any time you see me online, and ruthlessly mock me for any mistakes I make. I don't mind losing and learning. As the OP of the Strategy and Chat thread, I hereby invite you to ask for as much strategic advice as you'd like! Plus I'd love to play a game or two against you at some point!
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 17:10 |
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Being able to buy 2 Colonies in one turn is grand.
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# ¿ Jan 18, 2017 01:17 |
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Toshimo posted:What do you do when you are dumpstering someone on an interesting board but their pace of play is slothful to the point of madness? Do you want a useful answer or a lewd answer? I have both prepared.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2017 18:50 |
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Toshimo posted:Yes pls. Take the time to start tracking draws and discards; start predicting exactly what hands you and your opponent will be drawing. Or Open pornhub in another tab and have at it.
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2017 19:06 |
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sector_corrector posted:Close. Think slightly less expensive. You manage to trash the entire silver pile?
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2017 20:38 |
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The only real thing to look for in a Kingdom generator is to make sure it's compliant with 2nd edition stuff. My preferred is Randominion on iOS, but it's missing some of the fancier features for making generation more tailored and less random.
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2017 14:45 |
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I seem to remember visiting that thread a few days ago; unless it's gotten worse since then, it wasn't so much a tantrum as it was "that's not how I designed the game, that's not how I envision it being played. You don't match any other shuffle in the course of the game, why should the first one be any different?"
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2017 10:17 |
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To be fair to DXV, interspersed in there is a bunch of people calling for the exact same thing over and over despite already being told no, some of whom are telling the creator of Dominion that he doesn't understand Dominion.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2017 13:53 |
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One the one hand, gently caress yeah more Dominion. On the other hand...where the hell am I gonna store it??Lorini posted:Sure hope it shows up simultaneously on the online site, that's the only way I play now. One of the online devs said on Reddit that the plan is to have Nocturne online day one; which is neat!
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2017 21:31 |
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I can't wait to run Nocturne and Dark Ages together and have a starting hand with absolutely nothing from the base game in it
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# ¿ Aug 4, 2017 18:47 |
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Safety Biscuits posted:I can't put my finger on why, but for some reason this just seems like a weird prank to me. I mean, it's not like DXV ever claimed Dominion was done and over for good; if expansions keep selling, I'd love for him to keep knocking them out
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# ¿ Aug 5, 2017 00:11 |
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Roluth posted:So for Dominion Online, attempting to pay for a subscription from the US takes me to an European payment site. Is it possible to pay with an US credit card? Any additional fees or anything? Just wanted to figure this out before paying. Other than maybe an extra couple cents due to conversion, there's no extra fees for using a US card
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# ¿ Sep 13, 2017 17:29 |
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First teaser for Nocturne went out. We now know the names of all the Kingdom cards. Bard, Blessed Village, Cemetery, Changeling, Cobbler, Conclave, Crypt, Cursed Village, Den of Sin, Devil's Workshop, Druid, Exorcist, Faithful Hound, Fool, Ghost Town, Guardian, Idol, Leprechaun, Monastery, Necromancer, Night Watchman, Pixie, Pooka, Raider, Sacred Grove, Secret Cave, Shepherd, Skulk, Tormentor, Tracker, Tragic Hero, Vampire, Werewolf EDIT 1: Actual card previews coming on Monday EDIT 2: If anyone else uses the nice spielgeek dividers, he's already confirmed that he'll be making Nocturne ones, which eases my mind. jivjov fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Oct 21, 2017 |
# ¿ Oct 21, 2017 04:13 |
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Do we know for sure one way or the other if Nocturne includes Events and/or Landmarks?
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2017 12:35 |
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First preview is up Starting at 6PM UTC, you can play with Nocturne cards on Dominion.games. There will be a matchmaking option that gives you 8 random kingdom cards and 2 of the day's preview cards
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2017 10:06 |
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Took this opportunity to overhaul the OP a bit. From now until the release of Nocturne, I've got links to the Previews posted at the very very top for quick access. I've also added links to the BoardGameGeek pages and Secret History articles for every expansion.
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2017 12:03 |
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Yeah, the offcolor icon is messing with me a little bit. Also, Bonus Preview #1 is up!
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2017 13:13 |
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sector_corrector posted:I'm actually not super into the set so far, but I'm going to have to play with the cards to say for sure. Well, the good news is that you can try them out this afternoon!
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2017 14:32 |
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Nocturne previews are up on https://dominion.games. Who wants to have a try?
jivjov fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Oct 23, 2017 |
# ¿ Oct 23, 2017 18:17 |
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Well, that accounts for another 42 cards in the set just for Heirlooms. 6 each of 7 heirlooms.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2017 10:09 |
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Lorini posted:How do you access them? I was going to try Nocturne in a bot game but it didn't show up in my choices. Do I have to buy it first? You have to go into advanced table options and check the "Nocturne preview" option. I've done it in matchmaking and games against friends, not sure if it's any different for bot games.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2017 14:04 |
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With the next bonus preview...we FINALLY have our blue dog
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2017 14:30 |
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Nocturne is starting to feel like a half dozen tiny expansions crammed into a large size box. Not that that's a bad thing...but there's just SO MUCH STUFF. Edit: there's apparently a new promo coming, Dismantle Edit 2: Today's bonus preview for Fool introduces yet ANOTHER landscape card-shaped-thing...a State jivjov fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Oct 25, 2017 |
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