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forkboy84 posted:We should leave the EU & create our own, with blackjack and hookers and nationalised industries. And we won't invite the Germans or Luxembourgish? Luxembourgers? Cunts from Luxembourg won't be welcome I've been called Luxembourgian, Luxembourgese, Luxian, mainly because people find "Luxemburger" sounds hilariously like a variant meat sandwich. (I'm actually just British  )Edit: In 187-1, Luxembourg's borders changed, for a change. Bobstar fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jan 31, 2017 |
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Pissflaps posted:I take pleasure in lots of things. Here you go - your boy Big Tone saying brexit can be stopped by
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Bobstar posted:I've been called Luxembourgian, Luxembourgese, Luxian, mainly because people find "Luxemburger" sounds hilariously like a variant meat sandwich. If you get posh enough you could be Luxembourgeois.
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marktheando posted:Trying to appeal to Brexiters with this article 50 shite while still being pro-immigration is just a really stupid position. Doesn't Corbs realise the entire referendum was about immigration? That these people hate Labour for not being racist enough and letting immigrants in under Blair? But if you follow that thought process, the party would have to become what it hates to achieve electoral success. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S65jqrHQi_c Sorry, I don't normally post youtube videos, but this did make me chuckle. Life accordion to Trump.
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Disabilitychat. There's two models of disability, medical and social. A lisp is the latter.
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I've said it before but it's really not undemocratic at all to not buy in 100% to a close referendum result obtained by outrageous deceit, and when circumstances have changed to make the decision look less favourable. And it's stupid to say that the decision, which had no timetable or details, means Labour should sign off on any timetable and any procedural details an unelected Tory PM decides. And sure, the right wing media will attack Labour for this decision, but since when has Labour party policy been decided by what plays well with the Daily Mail?Spangly A posted:is anybody stupid enough to actually think remaining in the eu is possible? Brexit will legit kill people.
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Fangz posted:Brexit will legit kill people. Who? How?
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Stress from worse working conditions? Worse health care from NHS privatisation as a result of trade deals?
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forkboy84 posted:Who? How? The poor, the sick, those in need. The usual Tory targets who they're already killing.
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forkboy84 posted:Who? How? Economic collapse will put the squeeze on public services up and down the country = people dying Widespread job losses impacting headlong with tory cuts to benefits = people dying Loss of scientific cooperation on topics ranging from energy generation to climate change = people dying Harmonising UK laws and public services with Trump America = people dying Pulling out of European law with respect to human rights = people being tortured and then dying That's not to mention additional risks like the loss of international cooperation leading to increased risk of war, and shutting the door on immigrants/refugees in poorer countries which basically fucks them over. Also if we go with this strategy of cutting corporation tax to draw corporations from elsewhere then we're spreading economic misery internationally. Fangz fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Jan 31, 2017 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/826440434805248000 Anyone heard any more on this?
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Skinty McEdger posted:Amazing, they're closing literally the only two job centres in this area and so anyone who needs to use their services will have to travel 15 miles and three towns over to get to their nearest. Thats some bullshit. You've got to feel for the Job Centre Staff*, enforce draconian and pointless bureaucracy for the Tories only for them to close your job post and force you to travel 15 miles to get put through that same draconian and pointless bureaucracy alongside the same people you sanctioned just months previous. * You don't have to feel for them at all.
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Isambard K. Brunel posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/826440434805248000 Mulholland really doesn't want to vote against Article 50, nor do Norman Lamb. In Lamb's case, it's understandable; his constituency went 60% Leave, I believe. But I don't get Mulholland, as Leeds North West, at 64% remain, almost certainly dragged Leeds as a whole into the Remain column. I imagine some ears are going to be boxed to at least ensure they don't vote for it. TinTower fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jan 31, 2017 |
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Isambard K. Brunel posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/826440434805248000 Mullholland released a statement saying he's abstaining. https://gregmulholland.org/en/article/2017/1199233/statement-on-my-position-on-the-vote-on-article-50-the-eu-withdrawal-bill Lol if you believed in the Sun.
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Lamb's also abstaining. The only other possible rebellion that I've heard is possible is John Pugh, but he's a Farron loyalist through-and-through so he'll probably follow him through the lobby.
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Isambard K. Brunel posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/826440434805248000 That's, what, three lib dems?
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How can 3.375 MPs revolt? Or does wikipedia lie to me and the lib dem have more than 9 MP?
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Junkozeyne posted:How can 3.375 MPs revolt? Or does wikipedia lie to me and the lib dem have more than 9 MP? 3 is 37.5% of 8.
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I tried to figure it out on a calculator but got bored and wrote Boobies instead.
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Junkozeyne posted:Oh yeah not counting Farron himself makes sense. Easy to understand, he's quite forgettable.
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I mean given the lib dem's presence in parliament it's probably fair to represent personal ambivalence statistically, so it is possible that one third of a lib dem MP will be against the party position.
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Junkozeyne posted:On that note UKIP has impressive party unity, considering 100% of their MPs will vote for the same thing The polls that have about 5% of UKIP voters opposing Brexit always make me laugh.
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TinTower posted:The polls that have about 5% of UKIP voters opposing Brexit always make me laugh. I'm sure that some people take the piss on the polls though because you always get stuff like a tiny proportion of people who claim to be both far-left and planning to vote for the Tories or far-right and voting Labour.
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Baron Corbyn posted:I'm sure that some people take the piss on the polls though because you always get stuff like a tiny proportion of people who claim to be both far-left and planning to vote for the Tories or far-right and voting Labour. They could be accelerationists or NazBols. 
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forkboy84 posted:Who? How? Immigrants, bricks
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kustomkarkommando posted:If true that would mean the whip is coming out at the third reading? I would hope not, that definitely should be a free vote if the amendments don't pass. Forcing Labour to vote for the shittiest brexit doesn't accomplish anything that I can determine. I guess the idea is to vote against it at the end of the negotiations but I don't see the point in trying to force Labour MPs representing remain constituencies to vote for brexit without the prospect of any material gain such as might be afforded by the amendments.
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Spangly A posted:is anybody stupid enough to actually think remaining in the eu is possible? I find it odd that you of all people is scared of a fascist backlash. Do we not already expect violence and murder from the far right? You don't give up in the face of violence.
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kustomkarkommando posted:If true that would mean the whip is coming out at the third reading? Sounds like it. If thats the case I wont be voting for Corbyn again in the inevitable leadership election.
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TinTower posted:Ah, but you see, Jeremy is playing eleven-dimensional chess to deliver a true worker's Brexit. Isambard K. Brunel posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/826440434805248000
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TinTower posted:No Lib Dem MP has said they'll voting for Brexit. An abstention is as good as a vote for, in this case
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TinTower posted:No Lib Dem MP has said they'll voting for Brexit. "we're the party of remain" *abstains* *enters coalition with Tories again*
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