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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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I demand more libertarian insert quarter jokes

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Comes with floating kitchen bench

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Anzac didn't do poo poo for Israel....

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

ANZAC didn't do poo poo

Not true, for example: they died.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Demonoid has served me well over the years and thank god Rupes cold dead hands don't touch it with stupid halfbaked censorship systems.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Centrelink Twitter Account: Now referring people to LIFELINE to discuss their debts due to their call centres always begin full

https://twitter.com/Centrelink/status/816541740026892288
https://twitter.com/Centrelink/status/814717174690422784

"Centrelink has been directing people to Lifeline in the wake of its automated debt recovery system hitting welfare recipients with erroneous debt letters."

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Angry customer training indeed!

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Probably a good idea since I live in fear of getting a lovely misguided letter.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Oh my. I'm dying from puns

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Bronnie tried paying back the money too.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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No, he has a subscription to the Labor Herald

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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I need poll bludger to just hook it to my veins and give me crash and burn statistics.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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I wonder if there's still liberals in the back bench going
"Ah don't worry, we'll just replace her with Peter Coste---gently caress"

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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I would blow Dane Cook posted:

prominent Queensland female real estate agent

The real enemy... LJ Hooker ....

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Higsian posted:

That capitalism oversaw the spread of anime is its greatest crime.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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I would blow Dane Cook posted:

How does a doctor find the spare 2 months plus 3 hours on hold to call Centrelink?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Staff inside the Centrelink unit responsible for income reviews and eligibility assessments warned officials from the Department of Human Services that automated data matching would lead to incorrect debts being issued to low-income and vulnerable Australians, an insider has revealed.

A longtime employee of one of Centrelink's income and debts teams said staff being reassigned to other work within the department were told computer-based debt recovery processes would be more efficient because the systems involved were relatively simple and would be less susceptible to errors.


The Victorian-based staffer, who Fairfax Media has agreed not to name, said public servants were "flabbergasted" by the justification for the new processes - which have already seen about 170,000 people receive debt notices from Centrelink including some seeking repayment of thousands and tens of thousands of dollars.

A growing list of welfare recipients say their debt notices include errors and demands for debt they insist they don't owe.

The Commonwealth Ombudsman said it was investigating the changes on Monday, following days of controversy and calls from Labor and independent MPs for the processes to be halted or shut down permanently.

"They don't care about average Australians, they don't care about their customers or their staff," the woman said.

"We told them 'poo poo', that's not going to work when they explained how the computer was going to do the work and said that it was going to misrepresent people's income and lead to incorrect debts going out, but they just told us 'computers and data can't be wrong'.

"They wanted to save a shitload of money and weren't interested in hearing what we thought about it."

The Turnbull government has downplayed the number of complaints received about the debt letters and customer services for welfare recipients trying to challenge the amounts they are being told to repay.

The staffer said longstanding cultural issues inside Centrelink and the department had contributed to the problems, with a view by senior bureaucrats that poorly developed online systems could be opened to the public and fixed later if faults emerged.

"There's a view that we should just keep moving, get customers off the phone and it is very frustrating for staff working inside DHS," she said.

"They deliberately make it hard for people to contact Centrelink to report problems and register for benefits. If you deter a few thousand people from registering for Newstart, even if they are eligible, it will save a lot of money for the government."

Last week the department quietly changed advice on its website requiring welfare recipients to keep evidence of income including pay slips for six months.

The advice now requires evidence of income to be kept indefinitely.

Labor's Linda Burney called on Human Services Minister Alan Tudge, who has returned from leave this week, to address the controversy.

"Sending out 20,000 letters a week, potentially 4000 of them mistakes, is crazy. It is not the way in which public policy."

In his first comments about the controversy, Mr Tudge stressed debt notices were only issued after recipients had clarified any possible discrepancy or ignored an initial notice.

He said recipients had three opportunities to correct inaccurate information.

"Labor is demanding we cease a process that has successfully recovered over $300 million of incorrectly paid taxpayers' money since July and, frankly, I don't think many taxpayers would support that call," Mr Tudge said.

"Centrelink is simply doing what has been done for years: cross-checking Tax Office income information against what welfare recipients have self-reported to Centrelink.

"The only major change is that it is more automated so we can complete more checks.

"People who work hard and pay taxes to assist those in need expect there to be integrity in the welfare system, and that is exactly what we are ensuring."

quote:

Last week the department quietly changed advice on its website requiring welfare recipients to keep evidence of income including pay slips for six months.

The advice now requires evidence of income to be kept indefinitely.

quote:

Last week the department quietly changed advice on its website requiring welfare recipients to keep evidence of income including pay slips for six months.

The advice now requires evidence of income to be kept indefinitely.

quote:

Last week the department quietly changed advice on its website requiring welfare recipients to keep evidence of income including pay slips for six months.

The advice now requires evidence of income to be kept indefinitely.

Jesus loving Christ

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Ink fades too. Like payslips don't last forever, especially if it's a casual job using paper.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Unfortunately, Optus.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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So is RDN the good guy or the bad guy here?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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It is that time to rewrite history on Abbott already?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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:siren:QLD ALP are running TV Ads warning voters that the LNP is about to announce a preference deal with One Nation:siren:

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Anidav when do the polls come back I wanna see at least a 56-44

Only internal polls are happening at the moment. Galaxy and Newspoll usually come back in February.

QLD is hosed, is what I am saying and some Joh style bullshit is about to happen.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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quote:

One Nation leader Pauline Hanson has sidestepped talk about a preference deal with the Liberal National Party at the upcoming Queensland election, saying she's confident the party can win government in its own right.

False alarm someone hosed up negotiations it seems.

Good luck LNP Lmao.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Actually Queensland is the Canary in the mine showing where the rest of Australia is heading so good luck to all of you

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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You Am I posted:

lol nope. Nice try though.

Buh buh buh *holds back tears* Brisbane Strong!

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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adamantium|wang posted:

Queensland State MP Steve Dickson has left the LNP for PHON.

This state election is gonna kill me.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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The Australian price is the Us price plus GST . Exchange rates are loving us, not Nintendo.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Solemn Sloth posted:

The Wii U was like 350 or so on launch

The 32gb version was 429.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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The reality is Australia is poo poo

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Hello, the debt collection is about to be expanded upon pensioners and the disabled, it is currently done with Newstart and Youth Allowance:

Pensioners and disabled next in line in Centrelink robo-debt campaign

The Coalition government is going to target more than 3 million of elderly and disabled Australians with its controversial Centrelink "robo-debt" campaign, Parliamentary documents show.

The mid-year economic forecast tables published last week shows the government has booked savings of $1.1 billion from data-matching the aged pension and another $400 million from the disability support pension.

The move will bring more than 3 million more Australians into the sights of the data-matching program, which uses an automated system to match information held by Centrelink and the Australian Taxation Office and calculate overpayments.

But the policy has been beset by errors and has been hugely controversial with many of those targeted for debt recovery saying they are being hounded by commercial debt collectors for money that they do not owe.

The data matching effort so far has been concentrated overwhelmingly on mostly young people who have received the dole or Youth Allowance, although evidence is emerging that students have also been hit heavily.

But the supporting tables to the government's mid-year financial and fiscal outlook, published on Thursday by the Parliamentary Budget office, reveal that Coalition policy is to massively extend the data matching effort to the more than 2.5 million age pensioners and about 800,000 disability support pensioners.

"Relative to the 2016-2017 budget, policy decisions are expected to decrease expenses on the age pension by $1.1 billion to 2019-2020 primarily due to measures to enhance the integrity of social welfare payments including expanding and extending data-matching activities with the Australian taxation office," the document reads.

The papers also reveal that the government believes it will slash spending on the disability support pension using the same methods.

Both the Department of Human Services and the office of the Human Services Minister Alan Tudge have been contacted for comment on Tuesday.

More to come

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
How can you gently caress up this badly and ONLY be losing in the polls by 54-46?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Darkest timeline or funniest timeline?

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Wait, NSW ALP has a chance now with loving Foley?

Haha you guys are gonna get hosed more than Queensl-
*looks at One Nation in the distance*

Oh gently caress.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Recoome posted:

Queensland is like "living under the jackboot of Ol' Joh wasn't so bad"

Also fluoride is poison and gently caress abortion.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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'I think it’s great': Peter Dutton praises Australia Day billboard featuring Muslim girls

Oh no, a ghost has possessed Peter Dutton and he's speaking in tongues!

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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Waaaaagh let them in, let them in!
*projectile vomits over Scott Morrison *

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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The Arsetralian names the QUT students and their lawyers as Australians of the year.

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

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When they got into this fight together, neither Calum Thwaites nor his barrister, Tony Morris, had any inkling of how long it would last.

The erudite Brisbane QC tipped that it would be all over in Round 1. Maybe half a day in court, no problem.

The sticking point was section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, a controversial provision that targets actions considered “reasonably likely... to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate” other people.

To many minds, it was political correctness gone mad.

The issue gripped the political aficionados, but was hardly a priority for most Australians. The marathon legal battle to clear Mr Thwaites, 25, and fellow Queensland University of Technology students Alex Wood and Jackson Powell changed all that, exposing how a sloppily drafted law against race hate could be exploited to curtail free speech and crush ordinary citizens.

For this reason, The Weekend Australian has selected the 18C Three and their lawyers as our Australians of the Year.

which administers the RDA, failed them.

“A clear injustice was perpetrated against these students who merely expressed a view against what they saw as racial segregation at QUT,” he said.

“They took a stand in the best Australian tradition. They fought back to protect their own reputations, their freedom and the liberty we should all enjoy.

“Without the generous assistance and skill of their lawyers, these students most probably would have had to capitulate and have been subject to an injustice.”

The 18C case captured the flavour of a year in which political orthodoxies were overturned here and internationally.

Australians voted Pauline Hanson back into parliament with three senators from her One Nation party at a federal election that shredded the Coalition’s majority, leaving Malcolm Turnbull barely clinging to power; British voters backed a referendum to leave the EU; and Americans stunned the world by electing as president Donald Trump, whose inauguration was under way early today in Washington.



The 18C case was kicked off by Aboriginal woman Cindy Prior, an administrative officer at QUT, over social media posts about non-indigenous students being marched in 2013 from a computer lab reserved for indigenous use. Seven students were originally sued by Ms Prior for damages of $250,000 for racial vilification, under the RDA.

Three subsequently settled out of court with her lawyers for $5000 a piece, while a fourth couldn’t be located. That left Mr Thwaites, Mr Wood and Mr Powell to stand on principle.

They wouldn’t pay, because they said they had done nothing wrong. The case ground through a purported conciliation process at the commission — none of the students was contacted by the agency for 14 months — and then went before judge Michael Jarrett of the Federal Circuit Court.

“I had to do it,” Mr Thwaites said yesterday of the trial. “I didn’t have the five grand to make it go away, and my family didn’t have five grand. We’re not that well off.”

Mr Wood, 22, added: “I wasn’t prepared to pay when I did not do anything wrong.”

Mr Morris had approached the young men a year ago offering his services for free. Mr Thwaites and Mr Powell went with him, while Mr Wood was represented by another Brisbane lawyer, Michael Henry.
Mr Morris initially thought the case would be open and shut.

“It was nonsense,” he said yesterday, welcoming the recognition as this newspaper’s joint Australian of the Year.

This was in contrast to the brickbats he received in the national media when his 2005 commission of inquiry into alleged patient abuse by the then director of surgery at the Bundaberg Base Hospital, Jayant Patel, fell apart after he was found by a court to have shown “apprehended bias” towards two top Queensland Health officers.

But it wasn’t until last November that a judgment came down for the 18C Three, with Judge Jarrett comprehensively dismissing the proceedings against them.

The court had heard that this section of the RDA constituted an “extreme encroachment on traditional civil liberties, including freedom of speech”.

The judge decided, however, that he would not address constitutionality questions about the legitimacy of 18C, and confined himself to determining whether the students had a case to answer: emphatically, they did not.

Malcolm Turnbull has now set up a parliamentary inquiry into the RDA to determine whether the law imposes unreasonable limits on free speech and if it should be changed.

Mr Morris said the case was the most important one he had handled in 35 years at the bar. “It has made people think about what it is to be Australian, what it is to have freedom of speech,” he said.


“In a sense, this case has it all, when you have three young guys at university being pursued, with their futures at stake. This isn’t about the big end of town and politicians and high-flyers.”

Gesturing to Mr Thwaites, he said: “Calum could be anyone’s brother or son or nephew … and it has made people think. If this can happen to him or Alex or Jackson, it can happen to anyone.”

For Mr Thwaites, it meant that he lost the career he had planned as a teacher specialising in indigenous education and gained a new one — the law. Recognising the young man as a “bright bloke”, Mr Morris has employed him as his managing clerk while he works towards a law degree.

Mr Wood had a 6.30am start yesterday in his job as a civil engineer. He plans to down a few “Milton mangoes” — fresh from the Fourex brewery in inner Brisbane — for Australia Day.

Mr Powell is pursuing options in South Korea in software development and graphic design. “I am just looking to leave this behind me with as little negative impact to my life as possible,” he said.

Our 2016 Australians of the Year were selected by an editorial board from nominations made by readers. It was a tough choice, given the calibre of the field.
Nominees ranged from Toowoomba businessman John Wagner and his brothers, who pumped $200 million of their own money into the first large-scale general-purpose airport to be built in Australia for nearly half a century, to celebrated moviemaker George Miller, indigenous advocate Nyunggai Warren Mundine and the High Court’s new Chief Justice, Susan Kiefel.

Our readers also applauded big-hearted NSW truckie Brendan “Bumper” Farrell for delivering stockfeed to drought-hit farmers in the state’s north and Queensland’s west.

Mr Morris said there were “chilling” parallels between the 18C case and the battle by his colleague at the Brisbane bar, Stephen Keim SC, and solicitor Peter Russo to clear Indian-born doctor Mohamed Haneef after he was wrongly detained and charged with aiding terrorists. The lawyers were named as this newspaper’s 2007 Australians of the Year.

“What to me makes this acknowledgement so gratifying is that, when you come down to it, the only institutions in our society that stand between the individual and the government are a free and independent press and a free and independent bar,” Mr Morris said.

“There is no one else.

“There is no one else to turn to when government agencies get out of control.”

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