Auspol January 2017: relentless incoherence and incompetence.

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WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

open24hours posted:

Maybe we should be a bit more skeptical about that toilet.

Yeah, nah. Instead embrace any story that spins a good narrative about how lovely the system is regardless of truth. Might as well at this point.

# ¿ Jan 1, 2017 23:29

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 10:12

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

All cheesymite scrolls must from today forward use pig's milk cheese.

# ¿ Jan 2, 2017 03:12

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

LOOKING, WAITING, COULDN'T: F35.

Catchy advertising.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 01:59

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

open24hours posted:

They might become even more conservative as they age.

I think a lot of it has to do with acquiring wealth. Older people typically have more resources (a house, superannuation, other investments) than younger people, and have more reason to vote for someone who promises to protect those resources.

So what you're saying is that the trend will end with baby boomers?

# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 08:02

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

All because they wanted loving acid washed jeans.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 08:14

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Glad it's uncontroversial enough that we don't have to. It was good compared to other bad things, including the bad thing Russia is now.

# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 13:48

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 14:51

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Yeah we used to hyperventilate and push on each other's chests against a wall. Fun times.

# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 03:56

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

ANZAC didn't do poo poo

# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 09:07

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

I mean they're always saying stuff like Valhalla Akbar :shrug:

# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 14:51

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

I will.

# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 10:31

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Frogfingers posted:

From the chopper window.

# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 09:48

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

both stories came from the same herald sun journalist.

Why did the right want to get rid of Bronny though? If it's just case she was poo poo I literally can't believe it.

# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 11:21

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

She betrayed Tony in the leadership vote even after he humiliated himself over choppergate for her.

Oh I thought you meant the choppergate stuff was leaked to the same Hun journo as Ley's.

# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 12:56

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Everyone should see I, Daniel Blake if you want to relive the anxiety of centrelink on the big screen. It's a pretty good movie, makes you cry though.

# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 06:05

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

SIDELINED Health Minister Sussan Ley is no doubt used to having her name misspelled and mispronounced.

Those familiar with the Liberal MP know to add a third �s� in the middle of her first name and that, despite the spelling, it�s pronounced �Susan Lee�, not �Suzanne Lay�.

But this confusion wasn�t always an issue for the senior frontbencher (who, to be fair, has more pressing issues to deal with at the moment anyway).

Ms Ley deliberately added a third �s� to her name when she was approaching her 20s, she revealed in a 2015 interview.

The unusual spelling didn�t draw any influence from the politician�s family or cultural background, but rather, from numerology.

�I read about this numerology theory that if you add the numbers that match the letters in your name you can change your personality,� she told The Australian.

�I worked out that if you added an �s� I would have an incredibly exciting, interesting life and nothing would every be boring. It�s that simple.

�And once I�d added the �s� it was really hard to take it away.�

Sounds bizarre, right? According to Chris Brazel, �Australia�s leading numerology, feng shui and colour expert�, not so.

Ms Brazel has been researching and practising numerology for more than 20 years and has seen people transform their lives and companies transform their fortunes by simply changing their names.

As she explains, numerology is the study of the numerical value in words, linking them to other events.

When it comes to numerology and names, Ms Brazel says the letters in your name and their corresponding numbers must match your birth date. When they don�t match up, it means you carry a �birth emotion�, projected on you by your mother or father at the time of your birth.

According to the theory, these birth emotions can often cause anxiety and stress in people whose names don�t pass the numerology test but, thankfully, according to Ms Brazel, that can be fixed.

�With numerology, the day you�re born tells you everything about you, and your date of birth and name should match,� she says.

�Every letter has an energy vibration, and there�s a really complex formula to use which is pinpoint accurate.�

Ms Brazel says she has worked with people whose first names didn�t match their birth date, but a simple change of a few letters, and a �domino effect� of changes that followed, led to positive changes. She told the story of a nine-year-old named Brooke whose anxiety disappeared when the �e� was dropped from the end of her name, and businesses whose profits exploded after they changed their brand name on her advice, despite their products remaining identical.

She says that Ms Ley�s story of a name change affecting her life didn�t come as a surprise.

�You�ll often need to change your name to what�s happening in your life and, really, your energy totally changes,� she said.

�It might not be just be putting another �s� on the name, but by doing that, this minister � or whoever the person may be � is consciously making a paradigm shift and there is a domino effect of changes that happens after it.�

Certainly makes that Nazi coffee pot expense seem even more sinister. :godwin:

# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 09:09

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

I'm on Engin, and while I had a tonne of trouble at the start with the DNS loving up, after switching to Google's no troubles. Their support was pretty decent too.

# ¿ Jan 11, 2017 12:19

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

What did the convicts actually work on then?

# ¿ Jan 12, 2017 12:42

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Lid posted:

There has long been tension between often white, more affluent feminists calling for greater police powers, greater state intervention and incarceration as a primary response to the issue of violence against women, and those feminists that recognise the police, state intervention and incarceration as sources of violence themselves. Disproportionately, this is violence against Aboriginal people, as well as against poorer people, people of colour, queer people, and other marginalised groups.

Carceral feminism represents a critical misunderstanding of the real-world consequences of deploying the police; that they do not serve to ‘protect’. Ms Dhu was 22 years old when she died in custody in August 2014, in excruciating pain, after being repeatedly refused medical treatment. She had been held in custody for two days, after being arrested for unpaid fines. According to a March 2016 ABC article, a Senior Constable testified in relation to this death that Sergeant Rick Bond told her Ms Dhu was a junkie who was faking illness; Sergeant Bond was frustrated and she wanted to appease him because "his word was law" and he was known to "verbally attack" people who questioned him.

This is not a case of ‘one bad apple’ - the police as an institution is harmful and violent; violence against minorities is business-as-usual, not an outlier. Ms Dhu’s case is just one tragic case out of numerous deaths in custody, overwhelmingly of Indigenous people. Given the numerous instances of police violence towards women, it is dangerously wrong for carceral feminists to promote incarceration and state intervention as solutions to violence against women.

As Victoria Law writes, “Casting policing and prisons as the solution to domestic violence both justifies increases to police and prison budgets and diverts attention from the cuts to programs that enable survivors to escape, such as shelters, public housing, and welfare. Positioning police and prisons as the principal antidote discourages seeking other responses, including community interventions and long-term organising.”

To use an example from NSW, while already underfunded rape & domestic violence frontline services, women’s shelters and community legal centres - some of the primary free services in the areas of domestic violence and family law - are facing massive funding cuts, the NSW Government is pouring billions of dollars into new prison projects, which will undoubtedly increase and perpetuate instances of violence.

Violence against women is an immense and serious problem, but greater state intervention is neither the appropriate nor the non-violent response.

But this is a good and cool opinion?

# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 06:29

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Or you know it's the state's complete indifference to it unless it allows greater police spending. :shrug:

Like that's a pretty huge wilful misinterpretation there.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 07:07

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Solemn Sloth posted:

No.

# ¿ Jan 16, 2017 03:40

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Pwnstar posted:

We just need to couch stuff in terms idiots can understand. Lets make a new advertising campaign.

"Remember when we let all the wogs in back in the day? Well now we've got heaps good pizza and fancy spaghetti places to take the missus. Let the Muslims in and you'll be able to grab a kebab on the way home from the pub anywhere in Australia."

Nah see this sounds like the fake tradie, what you need is to get in touch with the real Australia.

quote:

Remember when those loving I-ties and degos came over here and took all the loving jobs on the snowy river? And all we got was loving lovely spag bol that would have reached us from the states anyway. Now we've got the recipe, why don't we just tell em to get hosed?

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 05:32

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Ian Winthorpe III posted:

It's a weird case for the islamophobes to get angry about, as if it's not better to have two young muslim girls in front of an Australian flag rather than the ISIS one.

It turns out they're actually racists and not just patriots who have a desire to see people integrate more effectively into Australian culture, who would have thought?

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 07:19

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

gently caress if I know.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 07:24

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

I think it's just standing in front of flags actually.

e: Wearing flags as well.

e2: Maybe also clothes with the flag on it.

e3:Getting mad at Americans for being flag wavers as well.

WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 07:38 on Jan 17, 2017

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 07:35

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Ian Winthorpe III posted:

Fair enough. It seems likely that many will continue to retain in a strong identification with their ethnic and religious traditions rather than integrate into a cultural identity that can't even be described by those who advocate for it.

Uh what? I hope you're not thinking I was saying they need to integrate more effectively. I was saying Islamophobes clearly aren't actually interested in their generally stated aims, and are instead just massive loving racists.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 07:41

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

I don't mind if they retain strong links to their ethnic and religious traditions though? Like why do I need to come up with an answer of what Australian culture is when I really couldn't give a gently caress whether it was strongly adhered to or not?

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 07:53

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Ian Winthorpe III posted:

Because some things in life are more important than your feelings.

And this somehow means I should have to defend a position I don't hold. Cool.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 08:12

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

It's entirely unuseful to see this as a problem of migrants needing to change their behaviours to fit into Australian culture. We already know that integration is far easier and more successful the more welcoming the host community is. Fighting racism is the optimal solution.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 08:31

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Ian Winthorpe III posted:

Meaningless drivel - The notion that a group of newcomers have no obligation toward the country that has graciously accepted them is not only politically toxic but goes against fundamental human ideas of reciprocity.

And you still haven't explained what 'integration' might look like, why should anybody take your ideas seriously?

It's an inevitability that people will pick up cultural cues from the people around them. If those people are hostile, it's less likely for someone to want to use those cues. Obligating people to change their culture is easily perceived as hostility, so it's counter-productive. There's no reason to prescribe that migrants need to behave a certain way, because they will, if given the chance.

As for graciously accepted, pull the other one.

WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Jan 17, 2017

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 09:09

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Or the most stable polygon, the triangle?

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 09:14

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Ian Winthorpe III posted:

If I moved to an Islamic country and couldn't buy alcohol, or to Thailand and was advised to tone down my laconic aussie humour when discussing the king, the last thing I would do is interpret that as hostility.

And the cultural practices that you think migrants aren't currently performing correctly here are?

What about if you got yelled at or had racial abuse thrown at you when speaking in English in public?

WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Jan 17, 2017

# ¿ Jan 17, 2017 09:26

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Abolish capitalism and the specialisation of labour.

# ¿ Jan 18, 2017 02:33

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Because it's a profession, not a trade so they should shut up and get into line with doctors and set up anti-worker associations instead.

e:gently caress I hate people who think it would be in any way scientific to look at test scores from year to year and from there determine the performance of a teacher.

e2:And as for paying teachers who deal with high needs kids better, start with loving teacher's aides you disingenuous fuckfaced poo poo.

WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Jan 18, 2017

# ¿ Jan 18, 2017 05:10

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

What was the Turnbull quote about Mediscare?

# ¿ Jan 18, 2017 12:29

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

We always knew that, the interesting thing is this new policy direction is actually just, "burn the country to the ground."

# ¿ Jan 18, 2017 13:08

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

Was it actually an attack or did they lose control while trying to get away from the police?

gently caress, if it's the second...

Don't vic cops have to stop chases in built up areas?

# ¿ Jan 20, 2017 05:43

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Cory Bernardi was right! How dare the post-war government let in Greeks, the utter bastards! Send 'em back!

# ¿ Jan 20, 2017 11:40

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

ModernMajorGeneral posted:

Lol facebook comments saying the guy should have just been immediately shot when he was driving erratically at flinders st, imagine the carnage that would ensue every day.

Seems difficult when trams have to pass through. I guess they can be raised and lowered but the mall still has to be accessible to large vehicles in a way other public spaces don't.

Could use those bus bollards they've got in the UK. The clips of people trying to go through those are hilarious.

# ¿ Jan 20, 2017 12:55

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 10:12

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Doesn't one of their case's sort of rest on the fact that, 'lol my account was hacked,' was actually believed?

# ¿ Jan 21, 2017 06:54

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