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open24hours posted:Anyone can get a free trip to Israel if you're willing to say you're Jewish. A friend of mine managed to get one despite having no (known) Jewish heritage. your friend is a massive fuckhead, hth Recoome fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Jan 2, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 2, 2017 01:34 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 22:01 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:
holy poo poo it's "Downie Street" http://www.bradyresidential.com.au/index.cfm?pagecall=property&propertyID=3124180 Smart spatial design
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2017 08:58 |
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DancingShade posted:Awesome. So when your washing machine vibrates it's way through your glass shower wall during a spin cycle you can leap away from the breaking shards to break your knees on your sink then catch your face on the seat of your toilet during the fall. also thats probably the best angle for that room, so like the photo is taken from the doorway.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2017 09:43 |
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open24hours posted:That seems to contradict the point you were trying to make? AgentF posted:I don't understand it. Isn't it the same generation that were hippies and cared a lot about social change? How did they go from that to FYGM? I think that there is some unique Western phenomena going on here, because I've read (somewhat a while ago, I can't quite find the soure right now) that younger people in the Russian Federation are growing up more conservative on several points (I remember something about sexuality, and maybe womens rights or something) then the older generation who grew up under the Soviet Union. This isn't excusing or condoning the USSR, but it is somewhat of a counterpoint to the observation that everyone becomes relatively more conservative as they age. It's probably all relative, and we can't do a whole "what if" because everything about our current worldview is shaped by what's already happened. Also I mean there were hippies and poo poo but lol you should check out some of the older waves of feminism and how they viewed WoC, or the whole disunity within the original Lesbian/Gay rights thing and how they didn't want to be polluted by transgender people. These attitudes may or may not have changed in the intervening years.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 07:29 |
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Also, in a feel good story, I've managed to convince my friend who normally votes ALP to preference the Greens first, as she thought she was throwing her vote away by voting for a minor party. I ended up explaining how the system worked (thanks to that amazing comic that exists on it), and she wishes the ALP would change it's focus and she agreed which much of the Greens policy so I'll take a win where I can. Too be fair, most of it stemmed from not understanding how voting works in Australia, which seems to be reaaaaaaaally common.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 07:48 |
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open24hours posted:They might become even more conservative as they age. They might (which would align with Western trends), but it's really difficult to speculate but it's still an observation which is at odds with "people become more conservative with age". A counterpoint here would be that values and beliefs which were held in the Soviet Union are in fact ~conservative~ (because it represents the old order), and what is conservative is isn't universal. We define conservative as "fairly right-wing" in Australia (and in most other Western countries) because that's the general political tradition. Even typing it is difficult because the meaning in generally-accepted English is so Western specific that I'd need to actually specify which behaviours are actually conservative in order to make a point here (and I have to run to work)
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 08:01 |
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jesus christ the whole Soviet Union thing was just an example about how counter-reform/humanistically-regressive views aren't the exclusive domain of older people gently caress please don't get hung up on whether the Soviet Union was good or not plllllleeeeaaaaaaaaassseeeeee
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 13:39 |
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open24hours posted:Saying that's a documented bug is really stretching it. That site looks like instructions for Centrelink staff investigating this sort of thing, not a user manual for the data matching software. okay but is the bug documented??
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 23:23 |
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open24hours posted:If it is I doubt it's published anywhere accessible to the general public. look I'm not sure if it's because I'm sucking down my first cup of joe or something, but i don't see the point you are making. It doesn't ~have~ to be accessible to the general public to be documented. What's your point?
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 23:28 |
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open24hours posted:If it's not accessible then how would you know if it's documented or not? Whether it's a software bug or not is irrelevant anyway, Centrelink have been doing this sort of thing long enough that they should be able to get it right.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2017 23:48 |
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Ten Becquerels posted:It's accessible - http://operational.humanservices.gov.au/public/Pages/debts/107-02040020-01 wowzers Rod Culleton should fight (and lose) against a vending machine
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2017 00:10 |
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Won't someone please think of the pokie machines
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 07:21 |
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hooman posted:Top Marxist's Plea: Kill the rich, not yourself.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 10:27 |
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Obviously I am not actually condoning violence against the borgies, it's a joke ASIS/FBI/SS
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 10:28 |
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Solemn Sloth posted:Some loving piece of poo poo racist has gone and assaulted families in a park in Coburg. It's all on video, but Fairfax has decided to blur his face to protect his identity because he was drunk at the time and apparently that removes all responsibility. loving shitheels. Post the video
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 12:42 |
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Solemn Sloth posted:Some loving piece of poo poo racist has gone and assaulted families in a park in Coburg. It's all on video, but Fairfax has decided to blur his face to protect his identity because he was drunk at the time and apparently that removes all responsibility. loving shitheels. http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/people-must-stand-up-against-these-things-man-films-racial-tirade-at-coburg-park-20170105-gtmfp3.html thats pretty loving hectic
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2017 13:17 |
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Speaking about racist bigots in a park, here's the first ultranationalist rally being held in the Brisbane area since 2015. Allthough the event page makes no mention of it, the rally is just near an Islamic centre/mosque. Restore Australia is Mike Holt's crew, notable for jointly organising the last ultranationalist shindig with Reclaim Australia on the 22/11/15 in Brisbane CBD (Emma Miller Place to be exact). They've been pretty quiet after that, especially since they failed to attract the crowds of last time and also were drowned out pretty well (protesting matters). The location is definitely strategic, as being closer to Brisbane would probably provoke a stronger counter-protest (and there are definitely enough mosques around). Idk about the turn out, however, seeing as it's been ages since they last held a public rally coupled with the relative remoteness of the locale (it's not really a prominant location, other than the mosque). Both sides (if there is a counter-protest) will probably have reduced numbers so I don't know whether this rally will have much of an impact (lol made me post tho)
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2017 05:00 |
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Zenithe posted:Oh yeah, another ON candidate has been kicked for hating on the gays. didn't last long lmao e: Can't find a source, is this true? Recoome fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jan 7, 2017 |
# ¿ Jan 7, 2017 14:20 |
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Zenithe posted:Yeah, her name is Shan Ju Lin. Yeah, I was looking for where it said she was suspended. Resident Idiot posted:http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...bec6530bcf56ce9 i hear the nationalist socialist workers party is recruiting?
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2017 23:16 |
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I came across a really good article by Andy Fleming aka Slackbastard today, which has some really interesting discussion points seeing as we are coming up to another major round of ultranationalist protests on the 29th. It's basically a reflection and response piece regarding solidarity and the Coburg protests, which represented one of the last major physical clashes between ultranationalists and antifascists. The original article that Slackbastard is responding to is apparently written according to Marxist philosophy regarding solidarity and seld-emancipation. Basically the crux of the argument is whether the antifascists who actually managed to physically block the UPF/TBC (mere presence, rather than through punching on) were actually actively harming/or not harming the cause of the assembled anti-racists/antifascists who were in a mall a small distance away. The whole anti-confrontation article is sort of predicated on the pro-confrontation antifascists being a minority, and not truley acting out of solidarity. I'd actually argue that the media response heavily factors into the anti-confrontation argument (which focused on the excitement of the small clash which occured). Slackbastard argues that actually calling the people who confronted that UPF/TBC "scabs" is a bit poo poo and actually it prevented the ultranationalists from marching, which I think are extremely fair points. My view on this Coburg thing is that it was a tactical draw between the UPF/TBC and Anti-racists/antifascists. Originally, the anti-racists were going to do a march and ended up backing down after the UPF/TBC announced that they intended to counter-protest. However, the UPF/TBC were unable to march themselves due to the anti-fascists who physically blocked them. Strategically, the pro-multiculturalist cause won out here as the UPF/TBC failed to get their message out and Blair managed to make himself look like a stormtrooper again. The UPF/TBC haven't been able to pull big numbers like they used to like in the heady days of Reclaim Australia while the pro-multiculturalism guys seem to always get numbers. Moving forward, I think that if the Jan 29th rallies for ultranationalism aren't challenged, it'll embolden them and we might see another upswing. The recent attack in Berlin has certainly added to the alarmist mindset, although thankfully we haven't experienced mass violence which could be attributed to Islam (although it's sometimes played up in certain news outlets).
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2017 03:51 |
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Socialists win again
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 08:39 |
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Sorry I mean good guys win again
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2017 08:39 |
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Higsian posted:Yeah that feeling of guilt and shame is what they want you to feel. If the government really wanted people to have jobs they'd set up an organisation to straight up link employers and employees instead of this requiring boilermakers (I ran into more than a few of these looking for work) and whatnot learning interviewing and resume writing skills they will never use on their actual jobs. The way we do it is terribly inefficient even before you get into the morality of it. But it's not designed to help people find work, or even help employees find workers, it's designed to grind down your pride so you'll never realise you deserve far more than you get. The whole of society is backwards and it's nothing to do with you. I know it's tough with all the propaganda but hopefully knowing the obstacles set up in front of you and the knowledge that there are people out there that know it's not your fault helps you keep your head up. This is exactly the problem, in my opinion. I think that while actually knowing how to interview and put together a resume is actually usefull, the system right now is not actually designed to help and that's v hosed up
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 12:25 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:First dog: Doctor Spaceman posted:The title of the actual article is "Is Meryl Streeps Golden Globes speech really why Trump won?", so thanks to Betteridge's Law I didn't have to read the rest. I think the problem here is, and ~unpopular opinions~ warning, there's a bit of a point here (broken clock right twice a day). It's great that Streep can talk about these things but really she comes from an establishment which regularly disempowers women and non white people so it's almost offensive when Meryl loving Streep comes out and says inoffensive thing when really it's been said a lot and for a fairly long time too but hey lucky a famous person has told me what to think now
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2017 14:37 |
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/liberal-donor-denies-link-to-sussan-ley-gold-coast-unit-sale/news-story/abc2ebe4ef382ec3e1db20708b9966a3 holy poo poo
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2017 01:03 |
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lol @ the font change early on
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2017 08:05 |
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also holy gently caress whats the loving point of that letter? It's some really rambling/incoherent poo poo hahaha
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2017 08:07 |
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Left Renewel should either come out and put their money where their mouth is or shut the gently caress up
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2017 03:44 |
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I am loving gobsmacked that they want to send out 1.7 ~million~ letters
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2017 04:46 |
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hooman posted:"Tudge conceded he was not sure whether the $300m figure was the amount of debt recovered or simply the amount that had been identified. His office later confirmed that the $300m related to identified debt only, not debt that had been recovered." so how much money has been recovered??? this shouldn't be really difficult.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2017 05:28 |
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According to my napkinomics, the government wants to reclaim $4 Billion from approximately 1.7 million people, which works out as $2352.91 per "identification". The problem as I see it is that the 4 billion figure is probably some estimate with the assumption that everyone who has been identified as having a debt is actually owing money. I thought they said that of all the letters they sent out, 70% were settled without documentation (so if you extrapolate upwards, 1,190,000 letters will be false positives), with only 2.2% actually requiring real documentation and possible repayments (37,400 people in total). This raises some pretty big red flags as there is a supermassive error rate here which is just mind boggling. You really wouldn't be getting away with this anywhere else, or if this already wasn't such a marginalised/disenfrachised group of people. The Government literally decided to cast what is probably the largest potential debt dragnet in history, sending out 1.7 million notices to capture approximately 37,400 people. Now this is where it gets messy. 37,400 people probably won't owe 4 billion, it works out to over $100k per person. From what they've said (which isn't hyper clear), they've identified approximately $300 million from the 169,000 notices they've already sent. For this, we'll assume that they expected to get the full figure from that number of notices, which means the average alleged debt is about $1775.15 per case. Extrapolating this to the full figure (1.7 million notices), gives us a number slightly over $3 billion (honestly this is pretty close given the figures we've been given, which is poo poo). What is interesting to me as a person who does statistics is that this doesn't make sense at all. By this time, they'd have some pretty good idea about the money they actually are recovering vs. the money they wanted to recover, which would allow for more accurate estimates of the money they'll recover as it centers around the true mean. What I want to know is whether 2.2% required to show documentation represent the absolute upper limit of potential debt, or whether it's the remaining 27.8% which isn't touched on. If we use the 2.2% as the maximum limit of debt and using the two average debt levels, the government should only be expecting to recover anywhere from $6 million to $9 million with what has already been sent. I'm using a lot of assumptions here and the other issue is that people may have a debt, but it only be much below what they claimed (that one guy only had like $50-$150 out I think) so I'm not really sure where they are pulling numbers from beside their rear end. If the system and everything was peachy, why can't they release a more detailed data about this to shut up the dumb nay-sayers. Fake edit:The Arsetralian thing said that there was an error rate of approximately 1 in 5. Any idea how this fits in because I can't make this really jive with the numbers they've released. It doesn't make any sense.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2017 06:06 |
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Like I'm having a hard time reconciling the numbers. Either they actually don't know how much money they will recover, or they are misleading the public on purpose. Because it's all a big numbers game, I am sure they'd know how much money they have recovered thus far, so the numbers don't actually make sense as it stands.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2017 06:24 |
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Comstar posted:foster carers with 38 children notified of debt amazing
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2017 11:13 |
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Reichminister Nichols trying to deflect away that one of their own defected
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 04:45 |
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Ley has officially resigned
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 04:58 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:He's proposing a new independent body to oversee expenses. yeah but has to have an ex-MP on board, so how independent will it be?
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 05:09 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Yeah I dunno. Just saying they're not trying to make it seem like her resigning solves everything. yes they are
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 05:20 |
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Gorilla Salad posted:Yes, because if there's one thing which typifies women being beaten and brutalised by their partners, it's the state's overwhelming response to it. oh my god wow
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 07:44 |
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sorry that was supposed to be more sarcastic, seeing as this is apparently a thing wowzers
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2017 07:57 |
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# ¿ May 10, 2024 22:01 |
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I wrote a big o' wall of text, but basically it boils down to lol if you think that people/women of colour have equality of access/treatment with police. I mean, this even extends to LGBTQIA people, where there's extreme amounts of difficulty for victims of DV to access services etc. if they are in a same-sex couple. I'm not excusing whatever the gently caress that "Left Renewal" screed is, I think it's extreme and pretty wowzers. There's more than enough ammo to stick it to old school white feminism, which ignores intersectionality etc., without having to conflate it with domestic violence. Also Gorilla Salad, you can go gently caress yourself with that "drug addict" comment. I'm really glad you think you can reduce someone to a perjorative label, I mean who cares lol she's just a drug addict haha
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# ¿ Jan 14, 2017 00:51 |