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frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
The level's theme seems to be "how not to do hard precision jumping".

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frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Dr. Fetus posted:

And a lot of those levels just don't seem coherent. Some of them look like they're trying to do too much at once and it just ends up a mess.
Yeah, "incoherent" and "poorly thought out" seems to be the theme here. The really fundamentally broken stuff got filtered out well if a level that's just there, doesn't do anything offensive and happens to be purple is among the worst.

On the other hand, I really look forward to the return to the lava level which deserves to be there just for the concept of it.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Blaze Dragon posted:

Also that coins level had a really cool gimmick and I can imagine how weird it must be to avoid coins. It's like its turning your Mario instincts, honed for decades, against you.
It's great for exactly that reason.

Mak0rz posted:

Some indie developer made a platformer based entirely around that premise. It was called Dangerous Dan or something? I can't seem to find it.
Now building a whole game around that sounds like the gimmick would wear out its welcome really, really fast.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Mak0rz posted:

The entire game can be beaten blind a few minutes.
Good. That sounds about the right length for something like that.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

FPzero posted:

I can give a better explanation later if anyone's still confused (I wouldn't blame you if you didn't know SMW even HAD 1-up checkpoint tiles.).
Please do! I love to hear about arcane stuff like that.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
I liked watching these two levels. The first one for trying to figure out the puzzle myself (but of course I don't know enough to solve it; I didn't realize you could use yellow Yoshi's stomp to bump the shell like that) and the second one for the sheer weirdness of it.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

FPzero posted:

Once again, my explanations go on way longer than I ever intend them to but hopefully you and others found it interesting. I know so much about this game from years of being involved with the community so it's interesting to get to explain what we know as basic concepts to people with little to no background on the subject.
Don't worry, I certainly found it interesting. I love learning about the nitty-gritty of old game engines and hardware architectures (like that Atari games LP someone did last year).

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

hanales posted:

Do you have a link to that LP I can't find it
I slightly misremembered since it wasn't so much Atari games as one game with a number of posts on the technical wizardry that went into getting better graphics out of the Atari 2600.

Archives needed: Retro-hacking for fun and madness: Let's Vivisect Solaris!

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
Seriously, I agree: gently caress that!

Would it be possible to kill the paratroopa under the platform (you know the one) with a shell in Yoshi's mouth or does spitting it out drop you, too?

The only interesting thing about that level is the combination of red and green paratroopers. You could probably made some sort of shmup-style gameplay out of that. (It's me, I'm the bad ideas haver.)

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Dr. Fetus posted:

It could work, but obviously the first thing that would have to happen is that you would need to be able to see what's going on in that level.
Well, I was talking about ideas worth salvaging from that mess. The silhouette aesthetic certainly isn't one particularly worth salvaging, a least not for a busy level like that, let alone if it's autoscrolling.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

FPzero posted:



What an amazing-looking level! It's almost too good looking. As in, while it's visually amazing it's also very visually confusing. This is a rare instance where the level can actually overstimulate the player with signals and information.
In a way the casino theme sorta excuses that. However, watching these videos and poking around in the hack myself a bit, I've discovered that quite a few hackers seem to lack the sense of how much is too much and don't understand that you should make the distinction between foreground and background easy to read unless you're intentionally building challenges around that.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Rabbi Raccoon posted:

My favorite part is the underwater moon.

Night Swimming is probably my favorite level so far. A very cool concept, not overly difficult, and absolutely gorgeous. I was wondering what the point of having those sawblades was when you have a full range of motion.

It is very gorgeous, uses its gimmicks well and doesn't wear out its welcome.

The first level won points with me because it wouldn't feel too out of place in Super Mario World difficulty- and design-wise.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
That ghost ship looks really, really good (except for some very minor ugliness on some upscaled background textures).

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
I just finished my first randomized run and it's been one hell of a ride. I thought I got stuck and was confused since I thought the randomizer logic prevented this, but it turns out I just forgot that there's a part of the Tower of Hera basement you don't need a key for. I don't know how I forgot and missed that stairway right next to the entrance all three times I entered the tower. Then I started a second run, went into the tower and then I finally noticed the door. :downs:

What really amazes me is the amount of effort that went into details such as adjusting the captions in the "where are they now" credits sequence.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
This. Seed.

Well, I hope the mirror will finally lead me to the keys I'm missing. That's what I get for feeling cocky for stumbling into the red and blue medallions more or less by accident.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade
I'm at a point where naming my character FUFP seem absolutely justified. :unsmigghh:

e: Yeah, remembering stuff is great! Such as the ledge with a key you can hookshot to in Swamp Palace's Big Chest room. That would have saved me literal hours of searching around for anything I could have missed elsewhere. FUFF would have been more appropriate. :suicide:

e2: It is done.

frankenfreak fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Mar 2, 2018

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Rabbi Raccoon posted:

There's something oddly satisfying about conquering the Eastern Palace with the red mail, Golden Sword, mirror shield, and the Silver Arrows.
On the other hand, there's also the satisfaction of defeating Helmasaurus with only 4 hearts, although doing Blind with only four might be beyond my physical and mental limits. (I'm currently attempting an almost* minimal route for the seed FPZero gave us. *=i.e. not going out of my way to pick up items that aren't on the minimum path or like in the chest right next to one that is)

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frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

tiistai posted:

Blind's patterns are deterministic, so with a little practice you can get him to do the same thing every time. Just look at how good runners do it.
That's cool. I also never knew he wasn't invincible while he's flashing until earlier today. My recipe used to be: get Titan's Mitt, get Tempered Sword, get as many hearts as possible, maybe do Ice Palace and get the Blue Mail, too, and only then fight Blind.

I still decided to loosen up my definition of "almost minimal" run further and incorporated some minor detours for additional hearts and upgrades into my route (probably for the better because the hokkubokkus and Eye Bridge in Turtle Rock would have been even more impossible for me). Even with having to iron out some kinks in the route on the fly, I knocked down the time to 2:22:37.18 with 81/216 item collection and 16 or 18 game overs (courtesy of Lanmolas, Blind, a hokkubokku and Eye Bridge).

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