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Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Shameless plug crosspost from the horror thread: new episode of my horror podcast is up on SoundCloud & iTunes, we talk about The VVitch, Green Room and The Love Witch.

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Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Hat Thoughts posted:

So if there's an official blu-ray release of the original film without any special features, you wouldn't get that?

i'll take it if he doesn't want it

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

The original theatrical cut of The Exorcist is only available through piracy.

Which would also be bad if it were true

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

The Exorcist was re-released six-years after its original theatrical run. This 1979 version had an 'updated' sound mix and various visual alterations. The 1973 version has never been given a home release.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNTltOGh5c

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

So: what I've written is true.

The DVD version has a stereo mix instead of mono. Audiophiles are enraged I'm sure.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

They also pulled a reverse-Matrix and changed the dominant colour scheme from green to blue.

It's simply not unusual for the original versions of films to vanish, even if they are 'important'.

That was actually with the 25th anniversary edition not the 1979 rerelease but it is a shame. Older dvds lack the blue tint.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Right - and neither version is green.

The 25th Anniversary's blue is likely an attempt at restoring/approximating the original look. The ones you perceived as the less-shameful and untouched originals are actually the bigger deviation.

but you just said the 1979 version did the blue tint from this hypothetical green version. Which version was the original DVD going off of?

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

edit: trying to post image comparisons but it's bein all screwy :shrug:

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

All the DVD releases are (to my knowledge) derived on the 1979 version, which is brighter than the 1973 version and has a 'naturalistic' colour scheme. No noticeable tint.

Like I said, the recent blue scheme is likely an attempt to correct this.

Where did you read about this? I've always preferred the pre-98 color timing but I was under the impression that was more or less the original, all I can find about the '79 rerelease differences are the matte for widescreen and the sound mix

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Death By The Blues posted:

Has anyone here actually confronted somebody in a movie theatre before? Or is it more of a "that happened" scenario.

A few times, although I gotta give the grand prize to my ex girlfriend who once cussed a guy out so hard at a play that he got up and left.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Slugworth posted:

That 'guy' was one of the actors, and the rest of us in the audience did *not* appreciate her racial slurs.

now ya tell me

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Glamorama26 posted:

There is no such thing as "bad Cronenberg". Even his missteps are borderline triumphs.

He's also my personal GOAT, so I may be biased

Yeah my pick for worst Cronenberg is A Dangerous Method and even that's a solid B+. I will say that it took a couple viewings for Scanners to really click for me.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

K. Waste posted:

My worst Cronenberg (but I have not seen A Dangerous Method) is Maps to the Stars, but it's the same scenario as Boogey - it's not because Maps is bad, it's just that, say, Cosmopolis is already really, really loving good.

Some other personal favs:

- Fast Company (same year as The Brood, nice kitschy power-fantasy complement)
- M. Butterfly (actually, that's probably my favorite, or tied with Dead Ringers)
- Spider

I finally saw Fast Company recently, that one's a lot of fun.

I loved Maps to the Stars (although, yeah, probably not as much as Cosmopolis). I owe it a rewatch now that Carrie Fisher died.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Nightbreed is Clive Barker's worst movie which is to say it's an A-.

Gorman Thomas posted:

That boy ain't right...

should I watch dead ringers or m butterfly tonight with all this cronnyberg talk

Dead Ringers. M. Butterfly's not bad but Dead Ringers is a knockout.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Define "Clive Barker movie."

The three movies he directed (Hellraiser, Nightbreed, and Lord of Illusions)

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:

So episode 1 of the podcast I'm doing with my twitter buddy is gonna be on The Secret and that sort of new agey predatory capitalistic brand of spirituality and solipsism. I'm watching the "documentary" on YouTube and this poo poo is hilariously disgusting.

I'll listen to this, I was working at a Borders at the peak of that whole thing and I can't get enough bagging on it.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Relevant to this thread's interests, I love that Rebecca Hall just plugged Chapo Trap House on twitter.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007


Cronenberg chat got me to rewatch this the other day and goddamn is it a stunning movie

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Samuel Clemens posted:

I figured you were the man to ask. Thanks for the explanation.


In a perfect world, Jeremy Irons would have won the Oscar that year.

I was reading the wiki and apparently when he won his Oscar the following year for Reversal of Fortune, he thanked Cronenberg. It's a magnificently complex performance.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Gorman Thomas posted:

I think doves is more a John Woo thing than a EWaF thing. Dude loving loves doves.

Skwirl posted:

Doves in a finale really just means a film was directed by John Woo.

True, but John Woo is also on record as loving Eyes Without a Face so that's probably where he got it from.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Egbert Souse posted:

Technically, it's a jump cut.

I would've said "smash cut" but I dunno if that's a real term or just a cool thing people say

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Egbert Souse posted:

If I were a script reader, I'd automatically throw any screenplays into the shredder if they have even just one instance of "SMASH CUT"

all of the best screenplays do this

FreudianSlippers posted:

Isn't a jump cut where it's a shot from the same or similar angle so that the cut is extremely visibile and makes objects or people seemingly "jump" suddenly?

I was under this impression too, like in Breathless.

edit: bow before the god Wikipedia Jump cut vs. Smash cut

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Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

my cat had a whole bunch of health problems recently that he thankfully seems to have completely bounced back from but I was a drat wreck for the month or so that I was taking him back and forth to the vet constantly.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Skwirl posted:

As hilarious as it is, it's still less embarrassing than David Cameron loving a dead pig.

Especially because that one was probably true

Which is not to say Piss Trump is not true. I mean, it's probably not true. But, that being said, it definitely is true.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Fifteen of Many posted:

I've heard a few places that the use of songs in Suicide Squad is bad. Could anyone elucidate on a few examples of what makes selection and use in that film particularly egregious and provide a counter example of good use of songs in film? I'd like to understand more about the craft behind selecting tracks.

They're almost all just very obvious and on-the-nose choices ("introducing an Australian criminal? Let's use Dirty Deeds by AC/DC!" etc.)

Goodfellas is probably the best example for great song curation in film.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Coffee And Pie posted:

I was thinking the same thing, esp the Layla scene and the prison scene where they make dinner

the way the songs subtly track the passage in time and change in outlook is particularly well done.

back to Suicide Squad, the way it cycles so quickly between licensed songs in the early going also accentuates how poorly edited that whole endless opening montage is.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

X-Ray Pecs posted:

poo poo, Scorsese in general is great at using licensed songs. I love the use of Devo's Satisfaction in Casino, that beat really adds a herky-jerky energy to the movie.

The way Goodfellas starts out with Tony Bennett and Dean Martin and ends with Harry Nillson, Sid Vicious, and Altamont-era Stones is a great storytelling device in and of itself.

He got a little carried away with Wolf of Wall Street though.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

X-Ray Pecs posted:

Didn't he even have a Me First and the Gimme Gimmes somewhere in there? That soundtrack is probably one of the few times I'd tell Scorsese to tone it down a bit.

I think the Me First song actually works in context (a snotty pop-punk Beach Boys cover kinda feels like the mode Scorsese was working in), but the Foo Fighters cue feels very out of place and that awful Lemonheads cover of Mrs. Robinson is just like, no, why are you doing this?

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

weekly font posted:

Somewhere Dubya is breathing a sigh of relief that he won't go down as the worst/dumbest President in history.

Even W's defenders could point at like, James Buchanan or Warren G. Harding. Trump is likely to rocket past all three on his way to the bottom before the end of his first term (yes, I'm pessimistic enough to assume he's going to be a two term president).

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

LesterGroans posted:

Even with a couple of miscues WoWS is still top-tier Scorsese.

I'd say second-tier but second-tier Scorsese is still very good. The Departed is second-tier Scorsese too and I could watch that one for days.

Speaking of which, anyone see Silence yet?

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

FishBulb posted:

Supposedly it's opening wider this weekend, the regal in Santa Fe is getting it so it can't be too obscure of a release. I'll drive the 45 minutes to watch it I guess.

yeah it's already playing at one of the art house theaters near me, but I still need to see Moonlight so I might try and catch that this weekend instead.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

X-Ray Pecs posted:

Tarantino's a great call, especially Pulp Fiction and double especially Jackie Brown. Ever since watching it, hearing that Delphonics makes me choke up a bit.

I wasn't crazy about the Tupac music cue in Django Unchained, but the Rick Ross one was awesome.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:

Suicide Squad is a 2+ hour trailer for a lovely movie.

I'm still sticking with the theory that the makers of Mystery Men were capable of time travel and Suicide Squad was the movie they were parodying the whole time.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

as long as we're sharing takes on American Ultra, I liked Kristen Stewart and Topher Grace but thought it was a piece of poo poo otherwise.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Gorman Thomas posted:

I also really really liked Can's Vitamin C leading in to the title splash, after a cold open, in Inherent Vice (also a great soundtrack).

Yeah, that whole soundtrack is aces. Neil Young's Harvest over the nostalgic mid-film flashback and Any Day Now by Chuck Jackson over the end credits are also great.

Timby posted:

For a movie in its entirety, I would probably agree, but the gold standard of a single song being used in a movie for me is Frank Patterson's "Danny Boy" in Miller's Crossing.

Very good pick from one of my all-time favorite movies.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Man this new Blair Witch movie is a huge piece of poo poo

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

CelticPredator posted:

The site is better now since Devin got fired. Hulk's stopped with the caplocks for his articles too.

You know that film crit hulk is Devin Faraci right

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

I Before E posted:

I think we can close the thread now because nothing that follows will be as devastating as this.

Wait wait I got one more:

You know that episode of King of the Hill where Bill dresses as Santa for Christmas and everyone thinks it's cute and he can't let go of that feeling so he starts dressing as Santa all year round and it gets really sad? That's Film Crit Hulk.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Samuel Clemens posted:

Uh, you do realise that Poland is a part of NATO, right?

the troops are occupying Poland because it's on the Russian border.

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Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Magic Hate Ball posted:

Haha I just heard "Buddy Holly" for the first time a couple weeks ago and I've been playing it on repeat. For some reason I thought they were a gimmick band for teenagers because of the "sun is a mass of incandescent gas" song, which is a different band entirely.

They Might Be Giants are 1000x the band Weezer is.

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