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i've got an old r4k indigo but various components fail in ways that require soldering irons and nvram fuckery to repair a indigo2 or indy are probably the best bet but they've gone from surplus to collectible and are far more than they should be on ebay i guess your best option is making friends with atomicthumbs
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PCjr sidecar posted:i've got an old r4k indigo but various components fail in ways that require soldering irons and nvram fuckery to repair I'm going to be kicking myself for a while for not picking up two Indy and an Indigo2 (plus accessories) that showed up on CraigsList a couple weeks back
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PCjr sidecar posted:a indigo2 or indy are probably the best bet but they've gone from surplus to collectible and are far more than they should be on ebay indys and indigo2s are both prone to have bad power supplies all indys, and virtually all indigo2s are too slow / have too little RAM to run irix 6.5 comfortably, so you also have to dig up a copy of irix 5.3 unless you are hella determined to enjoy the old jurassic park file navigator i would really suggest getting an o2/octane/octane2. the hardware was more reliable overall, and they can run the most common version of the os (6.5.22m overlay + 6.5 base)
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eschaton posted:I'm going to be kicking myself for a while for not picking up two Indy and an Indigo2 (plus accessories) that showed up on CraigsList a couple weeks back depends on what kinda indigo 2 i'm still kinda kicking myself for getting rid of an indigo2 "IMPACT" a few years ago. those things had r10ks and "real" 3d accelerators in them
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:indys and indigo2s are both prone to have bad power supplies oh yeah, forgot about the octanes; probably a bit more available. 6.5 is probably usable enough on the indigo2s comedy answer: origin double comedy answer: prism
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Got an Indigo2 impact but I haven't turned it on in at least 10 years. Don't have a monitor to use with it anymore. I keep hoping to find an old sync on green IBM LCD to hook up, I don't want another CRT taking up space.
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PCjr sidecar posted:oh yeah, forgot about the octanes; probably a bit more available. 6.5 is probably usable enough on the indigo2s an r4k is fast enough to run 6.5. the problem is memory. most indigo2s shipped with 128 mb or 256 mb, which is loving miserable with 6.5. the later ones, r8k/r10k/impact, are often found "in the wild" with 768M or even 1G. the standard configurations for an indy were 16 to 64 MB of RAM and that's a swap-thrashing nightmare even with irix 5.x. indys swap. that is their natural state of being. -- edit: and sgi knew that what they shipped was grossly inadequate. this is a hilarious memo about how the irix 5.x project was a disaster. software projects fail by default. that is their natural state of being http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/unix-haters/tirix/embarrassing-memo.html Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Jan 19, 2017 |
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Goatshadow posted:Got an Indigo2 impact but I haven't turned it on in at least 10 years. Don't have a monitor to use with it anymore. I keep hoping to find an old sync on green IBM LCD to hook up, I don't want another CRT taking up space. most LCDs play nice with sync-on-green. get a VGA cable and clip the H- and V- sync pins out of the monitor-side connector (or both connectors) when the PC-style separate sync pins aren't connected, most monitors will just fall back to searching for sync on green. everyone uses the same $2 adc chip in their monitors, whether or not they need to provide "weird" features like SoG i have only had this fail once. i have an HP-branded monitor that successfully syncs and displays an image, but then it overlays an error message about its inability to sync. it works, but i guess the firmware is convinced it's not working  -- edit: something important to keep in mind is that the sync on green trick only works with things that actually output sync on green i.e. exactly three pins most Suns and a few SGI products are actually "composite" sync. you will need an adapter that's actually designed with composite sync in mind for that to work. it's a matter of mapping the right poo poo on the 13w3 to the right poo poo on VGA with a "true" SoG output, we don't care how the adapter is wired -- we just clip the sync pins out of the VGA cable entirely. sync on green: 0 sync pins composite sync: 1 sync pin separate (vga-style) sync: 2 sync pins Notorious b.s.d. fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Jan 19, 2017 |
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Just lol if your visualization workstation isn't equipped with an R8000
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dcFkWirWcQ Technically 'failed' when Linux takes over the desktop world
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eschaton posted:MESS was folded into MAME and analog logic circuits! which finally gave us a mame "rom" of pong. also apparently all MSX machines ever made
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i need some kind of taxonomic analysis of open source projects to just base an intuitive understanding of the difference between the teams making awesome quirky stuff like mame, the people who decide that reimplementing microsoft word is anything but a pathetic waste of their free time, the corporate software project done in public, etc. i really could go for knowing more about more projects like mame where it is clearly labors of love while also pushing actual technical boundaries a bit, but i am aggressively uninterested in open source as the broader "movement" since most of the stuff is incredibly dreary and often quite sad
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i need some kind of taxonomic analysis of open source projects to just base an intuitive understanding of the difference between the teams making awesome quirky stuff like mame, the people who decide that reimplementing microsoft word is anything but a pathetic waste of their free time, the corporate software project done in public, etc. sure, why not waste more time on open source projects
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i need some kind of taxonomic analysis of open source projects to just base an intuitive understanding of the difference between the teams making awesome quirky stuff like mame, the people who decide that reimplementing microsoft word is anything but a pathetic waste of their free time, the corporate software project done in public, etc. people work on stuff like mame because they love it people work on stuff like open office because they hate microsoft that's basically it
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:i need some kind of taxonomic analysis of open source projects to just base an intuitive understanding of the difference between the teams making awesome quirky stuff like mame, the people who decide that reimplementing microsoft word is anything but a pathetic waste of their free time, the corporate software project done in public, etc. i'll start the wiki
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lmao I found this in a box while cleaning out my basement
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install it, op
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Endless Mike posted:install it, op
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it needs a pre-G3 power Mac or a bebox. I don't have either of those.
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Elder Postsman posted:it needs a pre-G3 power Mac or a bebox. I don't have either of those. virtualize it, op
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OldAlias posted:virtualize it, op - peter tosh
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Put your dick in it.
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Elder Postsman posted:it needs a pre-G3 power Mac or a bebox. I don't have either of those. i have the ppc edition of beos dr5 on cd, it'll run on a performa/powermac with a g3 upgrade card, but not a native g3 mac due to firmware. and sadly no powerbook/ibook support infernal machines fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jan 22, 2017 |
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     233mhz g3 upgrade w/148 mb ram running os8.6 on beos dr5 on os8.6
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OldAlias posted:virtualize it, op well. i tried with sheepshaver but the installer says I can't install it. not sure what else would work to emulate/virtualize a pre-G3 power mac.
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Elder Postsman posted:well. i tried with sheepshaver but the installer says I can't install it. not sure what else would work to emulate/virtualize a pre-G3 power mac. Have you put your dick in the CD yet?
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 Citizen Tayne posted:Have you put your dick in the CD yet? hmmmmmmmmm not yet
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Elder Postsman posted:hmmmmmmmmm not yet 
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Elder Postsman posted:well. i tried with sheepshaver but the installer says I can't install it. not sure what else would work to emulate/virtualize a pre-G3 power mac. what rom are you using?
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infernal machines posted:what rom are you using? tried several Power Mac xx00 roms - 9600, 7300, 6500, 6400.
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looks like it's a no go with ss as the be loader is real particular about firmware and ss only covers what's required for macos
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a/ux is pretty cool for apple abandonware and being a 'real' unix
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Puto, France
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Captain Foo posted:Isn't that the only reason to run irix if you're really bad at resizing windows, IRIX's huge window borders will help you out also, irix's icons were vector graphics instead of raster bitmaps, which was pretty cool for the time.
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Doc Block posted:if you're really bad at resizing windows, IRIX's huge window borders will help you out one interesting thing about that was that the icons were intended to be composed from a whole bunch of elements with different meanings, e.g. if the documents looked one way the app was open and if they looked different it was closed and if it looked different it was doing background printing etc. the UNIX world could've done worse than try to make the Irix 4dwm interface the standard instead of just plain Motif, even CDE would've been marginally nicer with a whole bunch of SGI influence even so, it never would've came close to what NeXT offered in the same timeframe
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Captain Foo posted:Isn't that the only reason to run irix every version of irix comes with cool graphics demos. they even made expansion cds with additional demos and sometimes games on them. unfortunately the fsv demo from jurassic park pre-dates openGL so it only runs on irix 5.x and earlier
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eschaton posted:one interesting thing about that was that the icons were intended to be composed from a whole bunch of elements with different meanings, e.g. if the documents looked one way the app was open and if they looked different it was closed and if it looked different it was doing background printing etc. it's true that "indigo magic" was a lot more usable than cde. as a development platform it had nothing to offer, though under the hood 4dwm and "indigo magic" were bog standard motif, and writing gui applications on irix sucked just as much as solaris or hp-ux. eschaton posted:even so, it never would've came close to what NeXT offered in the same timeframe next had some genuinely cool things going on (an actually usable gui api, for one), but they entered a dying market with a sub-standard product. it just wasn't gonna happen for them
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