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May 31, 2017 05:34
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Really bizarre to have Rocket and Gamora but no StarLord
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May 31, 2017 05:36
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May 31, 2017 05:39
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Wow that lineup is disappointing as gently caress. Guess I'll track down a copy of Children of the Atom and run it in dosbox instead
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May 31, 2017 06:12
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Hexenritter posted:Wow that lineup is disappointing as gently caress. its on fightcade??? i play it on there :]
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May 31, 2017 06:14
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Zand posted:its on fightcade??? i play it on there :] It is?? Woo! Thank you for this wonderful news.
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May 31, 2017 06:39
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There's not nearly enough slay queen or inhuman characters on the Marvel side for this to be believable.
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May 31, 2017 06:52
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Carew posted:4 female characters out of 27. Really? Yeah that leak is fake without a doubt. I look forward to eating my words though in a few months.
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May 31, 2017 11:57
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Surprised Daredevil isn't on there
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May 31, 2017 15:57
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List can't be real. Not nearly enough waifus
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May 31, 2017 16:05
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SUN GOD AVATAR posted:Yeah that leak is fake without a doubt. wasn't it literally leaked by the Ryce guy who was spot-on about the existence of MvCI in the first place though
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May 31, 2017 16:06
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DLC Inc posted:wasn't it literally leaked by the Ryce guy who was spot-on about the existence of MvCI in the first place though I think so but I just can't go with 4 waifu! Edit: so 85% of the roster is male. What was it in UMvC3? I don't truly care and I wouldn't be surprised because Capcom, but with the way these games are nowadays, shouldn't they think "we need to not only have 4 female characters?" I'm so sorry to open this can of worms. It's curiosity at this point. ICR fucked around with this message at 16:19 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 16:12
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jedah owns tho
Cartridgeblowers fucked around with this message at 16:22 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 16:18
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SUN GOD AVATAR posted:I think so but I just can't go with 4 waifu! this isnt hellthread dude  nobody not loving retarded cares BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 17:16 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 16:27
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SUN GOD AVATAR posted:I think so but I just can't go with 4 waifu! The entire Marvel side of the roster in UMvC3 had 4 female characters. 3 of them were X-Men characters. Exactly how many non X-Men female Marvel characters are both interesting and recognizable enough to warrant a spot on the roster?
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May 31, 2017 16:35
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SUN GOD AVATAR posted:I think so but I just can't go with 4 waifu! 13/50, 9/25 for Capcom and 4/25 for Marvel.
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May 31, 2017 16:35
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Hell, I'm surprised Gamora made it in before Black Widow.
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May 31, 2017 16:38
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No Spider-Gwen no buy
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May 31, 2017 16:46
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Shiki Dan posted:The entire Marvel side of the roster in UMvC3 had 4 female characters. 3 of them were X-Men characters. Drop Hulk, add She-Hulk
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May 31, 2017 16:49
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Shiki Dan posted:The entire Marvel side of the roster in UMvC3 had 4 female characters. 3 of them were X-Men characters. They're not particularly interesting, but there are a whole bunch of female versions of male characters (Thor, Wolverine, Spider-Man) that Marvel has been pushing lately. Honestly, the biggest red flag that this is probably fake is that Ms. Marvel isn't included. She's among Marvel's few successes over the past few years and they've been putting her in everything it feels like.
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May 31, 2017 16:57
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You do know that it is only the default roster, right? Kamala Khan will prob be unlockable b/c she won't be important to the main story, which is what the default roster is based on.
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May 31, 2017 17:00
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Do you mean DLC or unlockable like you get her after story mode?
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May 31, 2017 17:02
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Shiki Dan posted:Exactly how many non X-Men female Marvel characters are both interesting and recognizable enough to warrant a spot on the roster? That's been a problem for Marvel for years. If you want female Marvel characters and you exclude the X-Men and Susan Richards, you're down to a relative handful. Even so, you'd think they'd have added Quake or Black Widow.
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May 31, 2017 17:13
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Black Widow seems like a no brainer, especially with the focus on the cinematic characters.
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May 31, 2017 17:16
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fadam posted:Black Widow seems like a no brainer, especially with the focus on the cinematic characters. Is there any reason Capcom would be permitted to use some actors' likenesses but not others?
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May 31, 2017 17:45
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Shiki Dan posted:Exactly how many non X-Men female Marvel characters are both interesting and recognizable enough to warrant a spot on the roster? Spider-Gwen Invisible Girl Ms. Marvel (Danvers or Kamala) She-Hulk Wasp Black Widow Squirrel Girl Jessica Jones Medusa There's also a supposed Runaways series that they could mine some faces from: Molly Hayes / Nico Minoru / Arsenic & Old Lace (Molly would be a fun Roll type character, A&OL would just be an awesome teamup character like Rocket/Groot. loving raptor attacks and poo poo) I feel like no one was really quibbling over the mass market appeal of Doc Strange, Rocket, Deadpool or Taskmaster when MvsC3 released. So arguing that a female character needs to be both "interesting" and "recognizable" to earn a spot on the roster just seems like dumb guy internet posting.
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May 31, 2017 17:46
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Is there any reason Capcom would be permitted to use some actors' likenesses but not others? Even if there is, couldn't they just make her look a little different? It's not like Black Widow is a very visually distinctive character other than being a hot chick with red hair. FilthyImp posted:Spider-Gwen lol fadam fucked around with this message at 17:53 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 17:51
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So basically it's par for the course. Welp, that answers that then. Carry on.
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May 31, 2017 17:55
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fadam posted:Even if there is, couldn't they just make her look a little different? It's not like Black Widow is a very visually distinctive character other than being a hot chick with red hair. I mean, why wouldn't they just...I don't know, make her look like she does in the comics? Where are we getting that actor likeness even plays a role? In the trailer, Cap looks like comic book Cap, Hulk looks like comic book Hulk, and Danvers looks like comic book Danvers. It'd be the same for Widow.
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May 31, 2017 17:57
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Xeremides posted:I mean, why wouldn't they just...I don't know, make her look like she does in the comics? Where are we getting that actor likeness even plays a role? In the trailer, Cap looks like comic book Cap, Hulk looks like comic book Hulk, and Danvers looks like comic book Danvers. It'd be the same for Widow. I don't disagree. There has to be some reason behind not including her in a game that is focusing on the cinematic universe and only has like 4 female characters in it, but idk what it is. Before this leak I would have put money on her being in.
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May 31, 2017 18:01
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fadam posted:I don't disagree. There has to be some reason behind not including her in a game that is focusing on the cinematic universe and only has like 4 female characters in it, but idk what it is. Before this leak I would have put money on her being in. Wasn't there a big deal about Marvel not making Black Widow toys, too? It seems like someone has it out for the character. Then again, like everyone else has posited, perhaps people like her too much, relegating her to DLC to guarantee people spend more money.
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May 31, 2017 18:03
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So many holdovers that probably look exactly like and have the same move sets as their umvc3 counterparts. Sad!
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May 31, 2017 18:10
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Xeremides posted:Wasn't there a big deal about Marvel not making Black Widow toys, too? It seems like someone has it out for the character. It's not the character, it was her gender. There used to be a deeply conservative old guard in charge at Marvel Studios that were big into specifically gender-targeted markets, and they considered Marvel tie-in products to be a boys' market. For a while, licensed products for Marvel just kind of pretended MCU Black Widow didn't exist. The guy who was apparently most responsible for that, Isaac Perlmutter, isn't overseeing Marvel Studios anymore, so there's been some forward motion on that. You can probably trace a lot of the most risk-adverse practices at Marvel back to Perlmutter, who's a notorious penny-pincher; reportedly, he used to obsess over people in the Marvel offices wasting paper clips. With MVCI, it's hard to say what their justification is. I can see them nixing Black Widow on the basis that she'd be replicating a lot of what Chris and Chun-Li bring to the table already, but just within the MCU there's probably a half-dozen other characters who'd work just fine. MCU Scarlet Witch is, if anything, better-suited to a fighting game than her comics equivalent.
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May 31, 2017 18:19
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Wanderer posted:It's not the character, it was her gender. There used to be a deeply conservative old guard in charge at Marvel Studios that were big into specifically gender-targeted markets, and they considered Marvel tie-in products to be a boys' market. For a while, licensed products for Marvel just kind of pretended MCU Black Widow didn't exist. I mean, it could have been her gender, but they've been pushing Danvers hardcore for the last few years. I used to actually really like her but they decided she needed to be a flagship character, and put her in absolutely everything. Then they decided who she was wasn't good enough as is, so they completely and utterly destroyed her as a character (especially after Civil War 2). And now she's headlining a MvC game, and getting her own movie. Meanwhile, Black Widow is nowhere to be seen. She isn't in game, and she still isn't getting her own movie. Wonder Woman beat her to the cinema, and now Danvers is beating her to the cinema.
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May 31, 2017 18:23
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Black Widow's the most egregious cut since she's one of the core Avengers 6 from the movies (and the only woman) and all you'd have to do is swap Jill's head from MVC3 and you'd have another cut 'n' paste character that they're relying on so much. No wonder the guy who does Monster Hunter tries to keep his poo poo separate from the rest of Capcom he's the only one there who has a clue what the gently caress he's doing.
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May 31, 2017 18:23
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The lack of female characters and the lack of villains blows my mind. A lot of the picks seem like either no-brainers or just boring pulls without any cool surprises. The worst part, though, is how many missing faces there are. Who would pick Chris over Wesker/Leon for a Resident Evil slot? Why Nemesis instead of Jack Baker? Why two Ghosts and Goblins reps when that series hasn't had an installment since the SNES? Where are Phoenix Wright, Viewtiful Joe, Ameterasu, Frank West, Gene, or Asura? Then on the Marvel side, where are Black Widow, Black Panther, Loki, Falcon, Scarlet Witch, Spider Gwen, Daredevil or Wasp? This roster is really weak and I'm scratching my head over it.
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May 31, 2017 18:36
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Xeremides posted:I mean, it could have been her gender, but they've been pushing Danvers hardcore for the last few years. I used to actually really like her but they decided she needed to be a flagship character, and put her in absolutely everything. Then they decided who she was wasn't good enough as is, so they completely and utterly destroyed her as a character (especially after Civil War 2). Yeah, Danvers is getting a wholly inorganic push. There are probably a lot of reasons for it, but at the end of the day, it's because literally all the female flagship characters at Marvel who are worth talking about are either on the X-Men or are Susan Richards. They needed somebody they still owned the rights to, and Carol was what they had. There are a fair few decent characters on the Avengers besides her, but they tend to be non-powered (Widow, Mockingbird), low-powered (Wasp), obscure as all hell (Firebird, Firestar, Quake before "Agents of SHIELD"), or have lots of truly unfortunate character baggage (Scarlet Witch, Jocasta). The bitch of it is that she's not a bad character at all, but they aren't letting her be as complicated as she used to be. Carol's an alcoholic, she's got a terrible temper, and she used to have a pretty bone-deep cynicism because her brother died in Vietnam. It's difficult to imagine '70s/'80s Carol ever wanting to so much as work for Alpha Flight, let alone command it.
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May 31, 2017 18:37
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Wanderer posted:
i feel like the whole alcoholic thing didnt come along until Busiek's run on Avengers
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May 31, 2017 18:58
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Suspicious Cook posted:This roster is really weak and I'm scratching my head over it. Platformify the game. Make it a frontend for a bunch of DLC that players will want.
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May 31, 2017 19:00
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Race Realists posted:i feel like the whole alcoholic thing didnt come along until Busiek's run on Avengers According to Wiki, that's correct. That said, she was kind of whatever (to me) until around that time, so I've always seen it, and her recovery, as an integral part of her characterization.
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May 31, 2017 19:02
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