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wateroverfire
Jul 3, 2010
OP I'm struggling to figure out how to engage with your post.

You would probably call me a deplorable, yet we probably also agree on a lot of this and many of these things are important to me.

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Anti-discrimination laws, a living wage, equal pay for equal work, paid family leave, women's health, accessible abortion services, wealth inequality, rising costs of education, universal health care, same sex marriage, and social services.

I believe very strongly that this:

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No really, the real key to success is either being born into it or have connections -- to know a guy who knows a guy to get the right eyes on you then be fortunate enough to be picked. A person can work hard and excel and do many things to improve their chances of standing out and being noticed but it ultimately requires being picked, that's luck.

Is sort of true but less true than this:

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Hard work, giftedness or talent are the keys to success.

And that this comic expresses a fundamental truth that any policy to tackle the things quoted above needs to acknowledge.

Where does that leave us?

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wateroverfire
Jul 3, 2010

Main Paineframe posted:

Enriching white people to the detriment of everyone else is literally the point of racism. It's essentially why racism was invented. There's hardly any point in tap-dancing around it because anyone with a brain is already well aware, and combating racism has always come at the detriment of some group of white people because the literal, actual, specific purpose of racism was to elevate that group of white people at the expense of minorities.

Who specifically is *that group* of white people?

This is an activist's take on racism, and it's both pretty dumb and the exact sort of thing that causes people who would otherwise go "hey you have some good points" to instead look at your side and go "nah".

wateroverfire
Jul 3, 2010

Nevvy Z posted:

This is a valuable anecdote and we should do what with it exactly?

Listen and take it as information on his lived experience, whether you personal believe it's valuable or not.

Like...the ideals expressed by the OP are good ones. We cynical goons know that people often don't uphold them - even professed progressives - but that doesn't mean they're a bad set of principles to uphold.

wateroverfire
Jul 3, 2010
We haven't heard from the OP in awhile.

Has this thread addressed your questions, Jenner?

wateroverfire
Jul 3, 2010
Thread is certainly living up to half it's name, at least.

Jenner, is this thread representitive of the caring and sensitive world you've said you want to bring about?

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