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Teikanmi posted:reading books in 2k17 Books are good and make me cry often
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In this chapter my self insert character plays cool dad music to this child who will then have sex with me.
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Jan 12, 2017 05:17
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I keep on-and-off reading 1Q84 for over a year because it's not a good story and someone should have taken a hedge-trimmer to it, but I like Murakami's writing so I can relax to a half hour of him meandering about everything and nothing. If he just wants to write for 10 pages at a time about something, that's fine with me, but trying to tie it into one bloated epic is not the way to go. I'm glad Colorless Tsukuru fit it's length more efficiently.
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Jan 12, 2017 06:31
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Knight posted:I keep on-and-off reading 1Q84 for over a year because it's not a good story and someone should have taken a hedge-trimmer to it, but I like Murakami's writing so I can relax to a half hour of him meandering about everything and nothing. If he just wants to write for 10 pages at a time about something, that's fine with me, but trying to tie it into one bloated epic is not the way to go. I'm glad Colorless Tsukuru fit it's length more efficiently. it's a trilogy but often sold together. it's worth reading
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Jan 12, 2017 06:35
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FactsAreUseless posted:He's better when he has an editor. Hard-Boiled Wonderland is a great book, but some of his stuff can be really meandering. i really like what he said about having sex with chubby chicks and his opinions on couches. I think any programmer can relate to that book
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Jan 12, 2017 06:36
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i like his books but i don't have any delusions about him being real literature or whatever
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Jan 12, 2017 06:43
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He sounds like an anime, therefore its bad. Why don't you read something american like the trump biography?
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Jan 12, 2017 06:51
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anime good, murakami bad
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Jan 12, 2017 06:55
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Knight posted:I keep on-and-off reading 1Q84 for over a year because it's not a good story and someone should have taken a hedge-trimmer to it, but I like Murakami's writing so I can relax to a half hour of him meandering about everything and nothing. If he just wants to write for 10 pages at a time about something, that's fine with me, but trying to tie it into one bloated epic is not the way to go. I'm glad Colorless Tsukuru fit it's length more efficiently. I thought it was a good length but then again I read it while delayed at an airport for 20 hours
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Jan 12, 2017 07:01
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1Q84 is interesting until the final third where it gets irritatingly redundant until the lackluster ending.
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Jan 12, 2017 07:28
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I read Pinball 1973 and quite liked it. Also tried reading this book about town that is shaped like a human brain - it was terrible and I never intend to read Murakami again.
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Jan 12, 2017 08:16
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hard-boiled wonderland was, like, 20 loving years ago sorry you read words by old people, GRANDPA
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Jan 12, 2017 08:25
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He's the John Grisham of surrealist fiction.
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Jan 12, 2017 08:42
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AlphaKeny1 posted:anime good, murakami bad 
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Jan 12, 2017 08:52
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I don't know what "literature" means, but The Wind Up Bird Chronicle was awesome.
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Jan 12, 2017 10:09
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hth posted:i really like what he said about having sex with chubby chicks and his opinions on couches. I like how literally every single time that one character appears in Hard-boiled Wonderland attention is drawn to how she is chubby, maybe even a little fat, but definitely still very fuckable. Sometimes that thought is attributed to the main character and other times it is just part of the descriptive text.
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Jan 12, 2017 10:47
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a new study bible! posted:1 Quit 8n pg 4 1QAlt-F4
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Jan 12, 2017 12:26
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I occasionally pick up a Murakami book in the store and read the preface. I then put the book down. I feel this is the best way to experience Murakami.
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Jan 12, 2017 12:49
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Murakami makes me depressed but not in a Hemingway sort of way just ennui
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Jan 12, 2017 12:51
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a7m2 posted:his worst book easily though i liked the mongolia scene I had forgotten about that part. Yes, that was a very striking passage, the image of the man in the cave and the intermittent light is very good
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Jan 12, 2017 13:27
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I like a lot of his book but drat, for a surrealist he sure has a limited range of topics, threads that he keeps on falling back into. Oh noh, a desillusioned and emotionally detached teenage boy meets a 50 year old woman with a troubled past. I wonder if they will bone? they will bone E:and then a cat will talk about some German philosopher.
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Jan 12, 2017 13:57
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If it ain't Ayn Raynd it ain't worth reading. jk, I liked the Wind-Up Bird Chronicle although I haven't read any of his other stuff.Post-modernist, bruh.
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Jan 12, 2017 14:12
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I can't really put a finger on why, but I don't like his protagonists. The other characters are usually really interesting and the only thing keeping me reading.
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Jan 12, 2017 14:18
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Fruits of the sea posted:I can't really put a finger on why, but I don't like his protagonists. The other characters are usually really interesting and the only thing keeping me reading. Maybe because they so often are passive observers with no personality, who are just following along in the story without actually doing that much? As mentioned above, in a lot of the stories the protagonist is there to listen to Murakami talking to the reader through thinly disguised characters. And to bone older women.
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Jan 12, 2017 14:34
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Fruits of the sea posted:I can't really put a finger on why, but I don't like his protagonists. The other characters are usually really interesting and the only thing keeping me reading. His main characters are often 'normal guy' to a really unusual degree for fictional characters. They have a very normal life and when met with stranger things or emotional things their reaction is very much "okay I guess this is a thing that is happening to me now, not really sure how to feel about it", rather than responding with intense emotion. As such they seem kind of emotionless and detached. Norwegian Wood is a good example of this because it is one of his most grounded novels. The protagonist becomes involved in the lives of people going through something emotionally intense and does feel something about it, but in a restrained and awkward way. Even the protagonists that are introduced as dealing with something emotional or running away tend to emote in this detached way. They are kind of like Meursault from The Stranger, but less extreme and slightly more sympathetic.
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Jan 12, 2017 14:36
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That's the post-modernist condition of people without emotional attachments with lives that have no depth.
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Jan 12, 2017 15:08
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i thought kafka was fun and enjoyable i also think people who scoff about what is and isn't literature are people who would scoff that movies that aren't wanky artistic oscar-bait aren't real movies if that was as socially acceptable
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Jan 12, 2017 15:15
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I love Murakami, but it was difficult to recommend him when I worked at a bookstore in college. "His books are always about a subtle change in the character's reality that makes them question the nature of their existence and also he fucks some teenager and totally busts a nut in her so that she can be some metaphor. Also that teenager is maybe the character's daughter." Personally I really really liked 1q84 and Wind-up Bird.
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Jan 12, 2017 15:34
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Ex-Priest Tobin posted:He's the John Grisham of surrealist fiction.
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Jan 12, 2017 15:41
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a7m2 posted:it's a trilogy but often sold together. it's worth reading Moon Atari posted:His main characters are often 'normal guy' to a really unusual degree for fictional characters. They have a very normal life and when met with stranger things or emotional things their reaction is very much "okay I guess this is a thing that is happening to me now, not really sure how to feel about it", rather than responding with intense emotion. As such they seem kind of emotionless and detached.
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Jan 12, 2017 16:07
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Knight posted:This is something that I like in his writing but in 1Q84 I had to laugh at. Aomame notices things are different and comes to the conclusion that she is in an alternate universe. She just goes with it, her reaction is more akin to finding out it's "Berenstain Bears" and going "oh, huh" than the earth-shattering realization that there are now two moons in the sky. She goes about her day as if nothing is different. This is fine.
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Jan 12, 2017 16:08
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I was listening to 1Q84 at work one time when my headphone jack came unplugged and my coworkers were treated to a 20 second chunk about how a character likes her penises. Literature is truly the highest form of art.
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Jan 12, 2017 16:35
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Moon Atari posted:I like how literally every single time that one character appears in Hard-boiled Wonderland attention is drawn to how she is chubby, maybe even a little fat, but definitely still very fuckable. Sometimes that thought is attributed to the main character and other times it is just part of the descriptive text. the man is a literary god
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Jan 12, 2017 16:44
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lilljonas posted:Maybe because they so often are passive observers with no personality, who are just following along in the story without actually doing that much? As mentioned above, in a lot of the stories the protagonist is there to listen to Murakami talking to the reader through thinly disguised characters. Moon Atari posted:His main characters are often 'normal guy' to a really unusual degree for fictional characters. They have a very normal life and when met with stranger things or emotional things their reaction is very much "okay I guess this is a thing that is happening to me now, not really sure how to feel about it", rather than responding with intense emotion. As such they seem kind of emotionless and detached. Norwegian Wood is a good example of this because it is one of his most grounded novels. The protagonist becomes involved in the lives of people going through something emotionally intense and does feel something about it, but in a restrained and awkward way. Even the protagonists that are introduced as dealing with something emotional or running away tend to emote in this detached way. They are kind of like Meursault from The Stranger, but less extreme and slightly more sympathetic. Ah, yeah. They are weirdly restrained and emoptionally neutered considering there's usually some weird poo poo happening around them. Building on that, it bugs me how his characters always end up in hosed up sexual relationships, usually with someone much older or younger but only because of *mystical plot reasons*. God forbid the protagonist having some agency and simply wanting to bone a person. Eh, I still wanted to finish his books despite being intensely annoyed at them. His book on running is supposed to be good.
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Jan 12, 2017 16:55
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Nefarious 2.0 posted:i only read the bible and bazooka joe comics a true american hero!
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Jan 12, 2017 16:58
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*protagonist pours half drunk beer down the sink*
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Jan 12, 2017 16:58
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I would like to be a writer but i'm scared someone wont like my bad ideas from my bad brain  they will think wow this says a lot about you as a person and will then judge me
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Jan 12, 2017 17:00
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Whorelord posted:*protagonist pours half drunk beer down the sink* this is a bad and whoever wrote this is obviously a dumb piece of poo poo with no passion for alcohol OR general food and drink wastage
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Jan 12, 2017 17:01
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Fruits of the sea posted:Ah, yeah. They are weirdly restrained and emoptionally neutered considering there's usually some weird poo poo happening around them. Building on that, it bugs me how his characters always end up in hosed up sexual relationships, usually with someone much older or younger but only because of *mystical plot reasons*. God forbid the protagonist having some agency and simply wanting to bone a person. He is after all Japanese. This is a country that blurs out the naughty bits in porn.
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Jan 12, 2017 17:06
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Kafka on the shore is ok but it's not Harold Potters.
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Jan 12, 2017 17:11
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