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Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

In the late 90s, South America was a lovely place. The old Military Juntas of the past gave way to Neoliberal democratic governments with Washington's blessing, which started a brutal privatization programs in which state companies and resources were plundered and sold to multinational conglomerates for paltry sums that were kept in the pockets of a corrupt few and trade tariffs were eliminated, resulting in several national companies being unable to compete with foreign stronger companies and end up being bought by them. Social inequality soars as the gulf between the many and the few widens, and in response of that, the early 2000s sees the 'Pink Tide', in which several countries turn towards leftism by electing socialist candidates such as Lula in Brazil, Morales in Bolivia, Chávez in Venezuela and the Kirchners in Argentina. A new age was to appear in the Continent in which it would break away from its chains from Yanqui Imperialism.

Except... It didn't.

And things went for the worse.



Much worse.

Brazil



In 2002, the left-wing Worker's Party came to government, and while it did a shift towards the center in order to avoid alienating the foreign capital. Barraged from the start by the media oligopoly with corruption scandals, both real and invented, the first 12 years of Lula and his protegé Dilma's administration nevertheless managed to increase social mobility with widespread welfare and social programs that saw millions of people rise to middle class. Then in 2015, things started to crack. An economic crisis brought by the inability of the government to increase the national industrial production and the plummeting of oil prices engulfed the country in a deep crisis, which combined with political instability, brought upon a massive backlash against the uncharismatic Dilma Rousseff, who was impeached by its former ally, the Brazilian Democratic Movement Party, whose leader, the former president Michel Temer, starts to reverse all social advances made by the Worker's Party in the name of 'cutting costs of the state machine', with massively unpopular reforms such as gutting labor laws, increasing retirement age, abolishing pensions for widows, cutting public education and healthcare funds in half and so on. To make things worse, the recent mayoral elections saw a massive rise of the right and far-right parties, as the corporate media's slow poison results into a rise of reactionary thought in the Brazilian middle class.

More countries to be added later! Feel free to contribute if you are from one of them!

Recommended Watching (To Be Added more)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdtvyiHuTSo

Recommended Reading

http://www.brasilwire.com/

https://theintercept.com/

Feel free to contribute!

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Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
:wave:

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


socialismo o muerte

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Theres been several prison riots so far the last few weeks and its a loving bloodbath and a lot of people I know are commemorating that as a way to cleanse the country

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
*is white as hell*

hola, fellow raza

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Plutonis posted:

Theres been several prison riots so far the last few weeks and its a loving bloodbath and a lot of people I know are commemorating that as a way to cleanse the country

How exactly is the government operating these days? I paid some attention to the Rousseff crisis, but sort of tapered off when, you know, Trump. Given all that's happened since, how has Brazil handled the situation?

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
im a gringo here to commit imperialism

it's kind of funny looking at Brazil now, considering not too long ago Goldmann Sachs used the term BRICS to refer to the 'big' up and coming economies, and only China and maybe India has really lived up to the hype.

Seems like widespread and systemic corruption is a hell of a drug.

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
wow capitalism is bad

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
MOTHER. loving. MONROE. DOCTRINE.

back off eastern powers. this is our playgroubd

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
what are putin's plans for south america

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Latin America cyberpunk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DKeMOVlcRU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiNMRsOkhlo

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Going to have to be a dip and say to keep the shitposting to a minimum. Some people want to talk about stuff that's important to them, y'know?

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
Basically this whole situation is a consequence of Saudi Arabia + decisions made avoid tackling corruption.

Saudi Arabia sees the fracking boom in the US take off, it knows that if it doesn't put a lid on it, its security arrangement with the US could be in jeopardy (because the US might not need it anymore), and that's bad news, because there's negative reasons for the US to ever be friendly with SA. So it increases output to crash that boom, the rest of OPEC follows suit because they don't want to get left behind.

Unfortunately, the Latin American states that choose to base government revenue off national oil corporations (because tackling corruption and getting people to Pay Their loving Taxes was too hard) are now in deep poo poo. These states delayed tackling corruption for too long, when the oil prices were good, and now they've turned so they're hosed.

It's extra bad for leftists and reformist governments, because they present themselves as 'fighting for the little guy'. But when you find out they've been on the take the entire time, you can't trust them anymore, so corruption scandals hurt them more than they hurt the right.

Moral of the story: never delay tackling corruption, ever, because it will come back and bite you in the rear end.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
its cool that whats going on in europe is also going on in south america. neoliberalism is bad

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Weeping Wound posted:

How exactly is the government operating these days? I paid some attention to the Rousseff crisis, but sort of tapered off when, you know, Trump. Given all that's happened since, how has Brazil handled the situation?

The Temer Government is incredibly unpopular, with single digit approval rates but the current zeitgeist is "well it can't be helped" which is how their assfuck policies are passing virtually unopposed.

rudatron posted:

Basically this whole situation is a consequence of Saudi Arabia + decisions made avoid tackling corruption.

Saudi Arabia sees the fracking boom in the US take off, it knows that if it doesn't put a lid on it, its security arrangement with the US could be in jeopardy (because the US might not need it anymore), and that's bad news, because there's negative reasons for the US to ever be friendly with SA. So it increases output to crash that boom, the rest of OPEC follows suit because they don't want to get left behind.

Unfortunately, the Latin American states that choose to base government revenue off national oil corporations (because tackling corruption and getting people to Pay Their loving Taxes was too hard) are now in deep poo poo. These states delayed tackling corruption for too long, when the oil prices were good, and now they've turned so they're hosed.

It's extra bad for leftists and reformist governments, because they present themselves as 'fighting for the little guy'. But when you find out they've been on the take the entire time, you can't trust them anymore, so corruption scandals hurt them more than they hurt the right.

Moral of the story: never delay tackling corruption, ever, because it will come back and bite you in the rear end.

Except for the small fringe left tiny parties every single party is corrupt. This is not an exaggeration, most of the small parties don't even have any ideology at all, instead being graft-seeking mercenaries who sell their support in congress in exchange for money or government positions. There was an actual attempt by the Rousseff government to do a political reform when the first rumblings and protests started back in 2014 but congress stonewalled them out of it.

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Argentina

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

what's death to america in spanish?

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Prav posted:

what's death to america in spanish?

muerte a los estados unidos

Do they actually say gringo in South America? I would have figured different countries would have had different slurs for gueros.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Heaven Spacey posted:

muerte a los estados unidos

Do they actually say gringo in South America? I would have figured different countries would have had different slurs for gueros.

they use gringo here in brazil, i guess yanqui in other places

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
Yanquilandia

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Plutonis posted:

they use gringo here in brazil, i guess yanqui in other places

having interacted with brazilians elsewhere on the internet your posting suddenly makes sense

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Jose posted:

having interacted with brazilians elsewhere on the internet your posting suddenly makes sense

Yikes

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

30 people beheaded in another prison riot/gang war although this time its near my state

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I didn't think anybody could be more racist than middle class American whites, until I became posting buds with a white upper class Brazilian. Uh... they're passionate folks that's for sure.

It's also interesting how the paranoid style of right wing politics in the US was embraced wholly by the reactionary right in Brazil. There's enough conspiracy theories about Dilma to make the birth certificate scandal look like child's play. My favorite being that she's a KGB agent. Yes, there's still a KGB apparently.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

I saw a video of one of the prison riot when it started and the they threw the bodies on some ladies who were in the waiting area, waiting on those exact dudes to visit them :(

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLFziK5iUCk

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I didn't think anybody could be more racist than middle class American whites, until I became posting buds with a white upper class Brazilian. Uh... they're passionate folks that's for sure.

It's also interesting how the paranoid style of right wing politics in the US was embraced wholly by the reactionary right in Brazil. There's enough conspiracy theories about Dilma to make the birth certificate scandal look like child's play. My favorite being that she's a KGB agent. Yes, there's still a KGB apparently.

I'm gonna post later but theres a Financial Times article about white southern Brazilians being recruited for the Azov Batallion in Ukraine and I don't think the US even has that poo poo.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Nonsense posted:

I saw a video of one of the prison riot when it started and the they threw the bodies on some ladies who were in the waiting area, waiting on those exact dudes to visit them :(

i wanna see

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Plutonis posted:

I'm gonna post later but theres a Financial Times article about white southern Brazilians being recruited for the Azov Batallion in Ukraine and I don't think the US even has that poo poo.

I couldn't make sense of this until I remembered the Banderivets are causing Jews to flee Ukraine in the tens of thousands. I'm also guessing they think Russia is still communist?

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
the us gets its mercenaries from other latin american countries.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

SO WHAT ABOUT THAT DEAD SUPREME COURT JUDGE...

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W52s7lctmhk

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
did argentina get bored about kirchner having someone murdered?

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

I'm at Rio for the weekend for a student council and poo poo looks serious. The current governor has been indected and arrested for being involved in some nasty poo poo and there are several protests going on because the state public workers haven't been paid for months after the Olympics+World Cup+Oil Price Drop trifecta destroyed Rio's finances. Now everyone is afraid the cops will strike/mutiny like the ones at Espirito Santo did a week ago which ended in massive riots, looting and people getting butchered in the middle of the street.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Plutonis posted:

I'm at Rio for the weekend for a student council and poo poo looks serious. The current governor has been indected and arrested for being involved in some nasty poo poo and there are several protests going on because the state public workers haven't been paid for months after the Olympics+World Cup+Oil Price Drop trifecta destroyed Rio's finances. Now everyone is afraid the cops will strike/mutiny like the ones at Espirito Santo did a week ago which ended in massive riots, looting and people getting butchered in the middle of the street.

I'd buy that for a dollar!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Sounds like a good time to take out your enemies

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Plutonis posted:

I'm at Rio for the weekend for a student council and poo poo looks serious. The current governor has been indected and arrested for being involved in some nasty poo poo and there are several protests going on because the state public workers haven't been paid for months after the Olympics+World Cup+Oil Price Drop trifecta destroyed Rio's finances. Now everyone is afraid the cops will strike/mutiny like the ones at Espirito Santo did a week ago which ended in massive riots, looting and people getting butchered in the middle of the street.

What's the situation right now? I know the cops down there are basically Chicago+ in that they'll just execute people they don't like, but it's a lot, lot larger than Chicago. Does the mayor have any jurisdiction? I'd be pretty fuckin' terrified if the cops mutinied and just started taking justice into their own hands.

good lord, stay safe

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Weeping Wound posted:

What's the situation right now? I know the cops down there are basically Chicago+ in that they'll just execute people they don't like, but it's a lot, lot larger than Chicago. Does the mayor have any jurisdiction? I'd be pretty fuckin' terrified if the cops mutinied and just started taking justice into their own hands.

good lord, stay safe

Oh yeah the cops are a billion times worse than in the US in that they are openly corrupt and extort bribes from people, beat them up while searching for drugs and weapons (specially if you're black) and moonlighting as death squads against the homeless but the second they refused to work in Vitória the city turnes into something out of the Purge movies.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

How long does it take before a lockdown stops? When do you know it's alright to step outside? Do the police yell on a bullhorn or something?

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Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

What's up with Chile? Pinochet still loom large in the minds of the electorate?

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