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evilweasel posted:holy poo poo i had no idea that the current-era browns had made it to a playoff game, tmyk
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Intruder posted:Ravens and Steelers with a smattering of Bengals Bengals have 5 division titles in the last 15 years. They just don't do anything with it.
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Bengals have 5 division titles in the last 15 years. They just don't do anything with it. They make a lovely springboard for some lucky wildcard team.
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Imagine using two decades of data to make a single point about how teams perform currently.
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absolomb posted:Yeah but if the pats win we'll get to see Goodell handing the trophy to Brady and and *poops in his pants* I hope they stab each other and both assholes die.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:They make a lovely springboard for some lucky wildcard team. yeah before the season started I had a lovely post all lined up about how the NFL should do something about the fact that there keeps being 3 teams with a 1st round bye in the AFC and then cincinnati regressed badly. such is life
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a patagonian cavy posted:yeah before the season started I had a lovely post all lined up about how the NFL should do something about the fact that there keeps being 3 teams with a 1st round bye in the AFC Instead we got a team with a first and second round bye (The Texans were actually competitive in that game far deeper into it than I expected but with Brock an 8 point 4th quarter lead was basically insurmountable even before the Pats tacked on)
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Intruder posted:Instead we got a team with a first and second round bye and don't think we aren't grateful
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Chichevache posted:Imagine using two decades of data to make a single point about how teams perform currently. Is that what I'm doing?
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Intruder posted:Instead we got a team with a first and second round bye to be fair the same thing happened with TJ Yates at the end of the 2011 season, but the Ravens ended up getting the 2nd round bye that time
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Ehhh that game was actually competitive. It was a 4 point game at half and the margin of victory was 7. The defense that year was insane and Arian Foster was at his absolute peak before injuries ruined him. Yates had a terrible game but if not for Jacoby muffing a punt it could have gone very differently gently caress, what could have been if Schaub hadn't gotten hurt. Not to mention Mario Williams
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Is that what I'm doing? That's what a lot of page 15 was. Kalli posted:Over the last twenty years... The Dolphins are ranked 9th in non-divisional wins, ahead of the Jets 13th and Bills 24th.
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Intruder posted:Ehhh that game was actually competitive. It was a 4 point game at half and the margin of victory was 7. The defense that year was insane and Arian Foster was at his absolute peak before injuries ruined him. Bengals/steelers wild card last year was competitive but we all knew how that poo poo was gonna end also, while hatereading TJ Yates' wiki page, I had forgotten that he was put into a Bengals/Texans game in 2015 and won 10-6, passing for 69 yards and a touchdown Any team that's smart should roster him just to play against the Bengals because apparently he's a football god in those situations
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Chichevache posted:That's what a lot of page 15 was. The debate was about why the Patriots have done well over that span so not really. Of course, it's silly to be looking at the last 20 years of data for this considering the divisions were realigned in 2002.
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a patagonian cavy posted:yeah before the season started I had a lovely post all lined up about how the NFL should do something about the fact that there keeps being 3 teams with a 1st round bye in the AFC I mean what could they realistically do?
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Blarfk posted:I mean what could they realistically do? have the bengals play the 2nd seed regardless of if they qualify for the playoffs
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Technically there were four teams with a first round bye in the AFC last year
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Blarfk posted:I mean what could they realistically do? Force the Krafts to sell the Patriots and buy the Browns.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Force the Krafts to sell the Patriots and buy the Browns. Shouldn't it be forcing the owners who are actively harming the NFL franchise such as Jed and whoever owns the Browns to sell?
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The NBA couldn't even force Sterling to sell, he had to be blown away by an offer from Ballmer that was well above what anyone expected, and he had been hamstringing his own team for 30 years before the racist recordings came out
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Cheap Trick souvenirs posted:AFCN is the division that the Ravens usually dominate, right? No the Steelers dominate it. Bengals and Steelers have a better division record than the Ravens, who are pretty solidly third. The Ravens just have more playoff success. So people think of them as better but when you just count the division they're 3rd.
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Yes it's true. Look up the division records.
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Cheap Trick souvenirs posted:AFCN is the division that the Ravens usually dominate, right? the Steelers have historically dominated but recently it's been pretty even between the Ravens, Bengals, and Steelers
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Pats 77.9% against AFC East, 77.2 against everyone else. That's within the margin of error for "good all the time"
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Can we just have Green Bay play Dallas again instead of a super bowl this year.
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Kawalimus posted:No the Steelers dominate it. Bengals and Steelers have a better division record than the Ravens, who are pretty solidly third. The Ravens just have more playoff success. So people think of them as better but when you just count the division they're 3rd.
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Elephanthead posted:Can we just have Green Bay play Dallas again instead of a super bowl this year. you can play a consolation game while the pats beat the falcons
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FizFashizzle posted:There's a bar in Atlanta that does a pbr, well drink, and a shot for 5 bucks called the poor mans platter. Late, but... where? My go to get-hosed-up-cheap-and-see-a-show Dive Bar is The Earl.
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I mean... are people not expecting Pats/Steelers to be a good game? If you erased the team names it seems like a matchup people would like.
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PrinceRandom posted:I mean... are people not expecting Pats/Steelers to be a good game? If you erased the team names it seems like a matchup people would like. Should be a good game. Even if one team gets blown out that'll be unexpected enough to be interesting and you'd still expect they could come back in the 4th.
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I think part of the problem with the analysis is both that twenty years doesn't solely reflect post-realignment data but also that the really bad teams in a division often drag down the division's average by quite a bit and all the divisions end up being within a few percent of each other when looking at out of division performance. A legitimately competitive and strong division would probably have two or (potentially) three teams with high out of division win percentages. The AFC North fits this because Pittsburgh won 62.3% of out of division games since 2003 (2nd in NFL) while Baltimore won 57.1% (5th in NFL) and Cincinnati won 51.4% (15th). The NFC East was also very strong with Dallas winning 55.5% (7th), Philadelphia 55% (10th), and New York 54.4% (11th). The other obviously competitive and strong division was the NFC South, which had three teams winning more than half of out of division games. I think two of the other divisions reasonably fit this though less well. The AFC East doesn't really pass that test because the next best team, New York, won 49% of its games for 18th best in the NFL while the Dolphins won 46.5% for 21st best. Basically, I'd say the AFC East was worse from that standpoint than any AFC division except the AFC South and any NFC division except the NFC West. The result is that the Patriots, in addition to being obviously exceptionally good, never really had anything resembling a second or third best team even out of division like 5 of the other divisions, which meant they never faced the chance of just being the wildcard and could more easily obtain a bye.
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PrinceRandom posted:I mean... are people not expecting Pats/Steelers to be a good game? If you erased the team names it seems like a matchup people would like. it has a high chance of being the best game of the year. So does the Super Bowl, regardless of who wins the conference championships
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TheChirurgeon posted:it has a high chance of being the best game of the year. So does the Super Bowl, regardless of who wins the conference championships I'm gonna go ahead and say the Cowboys/Packers already holds that title and will continue to. I know it hurt you and I'm glad of that but the reality is it was drat good football.
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Cheap Trick souvenirs posted:I'm gonna go ahead and say the Cowboys/Packers already holds that title and will continue to. I know it hurt you and I'm glad of that but the reality is it was drat good football. What makes you think I disagree? I think it was a fantastic game, and probably the best game of the season (though I'd also suggest that Cowboys @ Steelers was an amazing game as well). But we've got 4 teams left, and all of them have very good offenses and poor defenses so all three of our remaining games have the potential to be amazing e: Seriously that Packers @ Cowboys game didn't even have Antonio Brown or Julio Jones in it. I mean, I love Dez and he had a huge game, but he doesn't have the entertainment factor those guys do
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