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personality cult lacked all the weird sex stuff that makes personality cults worthwhile
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massive labor camp complex for political prisoners actually not as profitable as you would think
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deadgoon posted:incorrect this sounds like the motive of the bad guy in a lesser final fantasy game
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rudatron posted:unironically speaking though Khrushchev was the only good premier Gorbachev at least tried. you can't say that for Brezhnev. Khrushchev was OK but in retrospect staking his premiership on a massive effort to grow wheat on the steppe was a real fuckin' bado idea
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Dreddout posted:I think you'll find that he created an "ev"ocracy counterpoint: Andropov also konstantin chernenko but he was bedridden and more senile then late-presidency Reagan for the 13 months he was premier Pener Kropoopkin posted:Khruschev set the stage for the USSR to turn into a gerontocracy. that was Brezhnev, or more accurately the people who picked Breznhev, him and the subsequent 2 successors were consensus picks chosen by an increasingly conservative bureaucracy whose complacency was enabled by high price of oil in the 1970s. Khruschev was forced out and spent his retirement in his dacha under constant kgb surveillance
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wounded in combat: 3,561 killed in combat: 1,258 purges: 452,145 captured/mia: 2,581 someone who is good at marxism-leninism please help me budget this. my revolution is dying
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Dreddout posted:Trotsky: "Stop funding purges" no
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purged. purged. none of you are free from revisionism
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1mpper posted:man, anti-soviets want it both ways: either stalin is bad because he focused on rapid industrialization and militarization to the detriment of other productive/agricultural development; or he's bad because he didn't industrialize or militarize enough to prevent mass causalities in ww2. imo he cut as best of a compromise as he could knowing what he did while making tougher decisions than almost anyone else in history. with four million nazi soldiers bearing down on you, i'm not sure what amount of "preparation" that he wasn't already doing would do to avoid a lot of people dying. maybe he should of tried not killing 90% of the officer corps for no reason, but mental illness is tough and i guess you do what u have 2 to cope
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stalin totally saw operation barbarossa coming, which is why he sold millions of barrels of oil to the nazis and waited until literally 2 hours before the germans crossed the border with the largest army ever assembled to let his army know that something might be up
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Fiction posted:He didn't have much of a choice either way since the West wouldn't even play ball on attacking Germany until the Germans invaded France. At that point he was dumb not to see the writing on the wall but was basically solely focused on building the economy and the military back up after knocking it all down (the military, that is) 'until the Germans invaded France' lmao before the germans invaded france stalin was in talks to join the axis
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Odobenidae posted:oh wow this thread really took off and a bunch of morons are care mad about stalin. its too bad that he's great and everyone agrees. also popular in russia: premature death due to alcoholism
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somebody got executed for failing to airbrush great stalin's horrendously hosed up teeth
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1mpper posted:well if by "ordinary history" you mean pop-history books written by robert conquest, anne applebaum, and other cold war warriors using lovely sources; and by "revisionist tankie history" you mean serious peer-reviewed scholarly work that favor primary sources and archival evidence over uncited solzhenitsyn-style anecdotes that treat malicious rumor as fact; then that seems an odd thing to believe and i posit that it may be u who is the idiot, sir. lmao
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R. Guyovich posted:yes, the axis, which was formed with the signing of the anti-comintern pact, was eager for the ussr to join them the soviets offered to join the tripartite pact, not the anti-comintern pact
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stalin clearly so deeply concerned about the anti-comintern pact that he signed a non-aggression treaty with its leader that carved up eastern europe into spheres of influence
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Rand alPaul posted:
the socialist realist theme of stalin getting flowers from children is p funny because its obviously doing a classic 'subjects as children under paternal care of supreme autocrat' metaphor but in a modern world with virtually no absolute monarchies remaining it just makes him look like a weird grandpa the north koreans still do a similar thing but in those the kims are actually more of a maternal figure
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