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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Mark Ames is a pedophile

he bragged a bunch about loving underage Russian prostitutes and getting them pregnant when he ran exiled

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Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Sheeit I didn't know she had a podcast.
https://shadowproof.com/category/dissenter/unauthorized-disclosure/

Throwing another one on my iTunes pile I guess.

It's fairly miserable.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Mark Ames is a pedophile

he bragged a bunch about loving underage Russian prostitutes and getting them pregnant when he ran exiled

:getout:

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014


I think he's right tho

Doesn't make him wrong about politics just lame

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Yossarian-22 posted:

I think he's right tho

Doesn't make him wrong about politics just lame

Vincent van Goatse is both.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Vincent van Goatse is both.

He should go back to the KSA/ISIS jacking off thread

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

war nerd is bad and dumb if you actually know anything about warfare

C-SPAM should love him
I feel like this is your opportunity to explain why, instead of being a dick :colbert:

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I really hope they make the Sci-Fi & Fascism episode free some time, because it's by far the most interesting episode for non-war buffs.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/radio-war-nerd-7585924


It's incredibly insightful on sci-fi as a genre, as well as the fascist sensibilities of the American white middle class which has roots going back to the late 50s.

If you're curious about the show, this one episode is well worth 10 bux if you just want to sample and cancel the subscription.

Just finished this ep. That was really good. Any other specific eps I should check out?

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.
I didn't really like Dolan until he started doing the show, but the show is great

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
Even if you're some joyless contrarian idiot who doesn't really like Dolan's editorial voice / gimmick as the War Nerd, considers Mark Ames a perverted hack and doesn't buy the War Nerd's specific analysis of X or Y military situation this show is still a treasure for 1) having a consistent line up of really interesting guests like Patrick Cockburn and Kelly Vlahos and Rania Khalek and 2) giving good historical overviews of conflicts that rarely get any attention in English language media such as the Nagorno-Karabakh war, Ethiopia vs. Eritrea or Iran vs. Iraq.

Pigma Dengar
Nov 11, 2016
cool podcast I like it a lot thanks for the heads up, im a podcast guy now so this is great

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007

https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/831267537216208896


What's Mark's problem with The Intercept?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


Pierre Omidyar. I think The Intercept is better than most other pubs, but it's still ultimately an extension of a creepy billionaire's interests.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Scent of Worf posted:

Just finished this ep. That was really good. Any other specific eps I should check out?

All of them.

I'm looking through the backlog to see which ones were especially noteworthy. A lot of them get dated because the early episodes were a lot more topical, and only an hour long.

Episode 10 is interesting, because that was the episode when War Nerd commented on Amnesty International's report about YPG/J ethnic cleansing of Arab villages, and AI wrote back saying they weren't doing any of that.

Episode 14 was around the time of the Oregon Militia standoff, so they did a bit about the Mormons' history of warfare with Midwest Protestants & the Federal government.

Episode 18 was the Patrick Cockburn interview on the rise of ISIS.

Episode 20 was the Tim Shorrock interview on Korea, and the history of conflict with the North.

As I'm writing this I'm realizing that my War Nerd fandom is gonna lead me into recommending too much so I'm gonna try and recommend the essentials. I'm just going to bold all the key words.

Episode 30 was the Opium Wars episode.

Episode 39 is about the Cold War counterinsurgencies around the world, with a special feature on Eduard Lansdale - the CIA sociopath who was the inspiration for The Quiet American.

Episode 44: the Nukes episode with physicist Dr. Sunil Sanais. It was recommended earlier ITT and it's a good one.

Episode 47: the North Carolina Civil War episode with David Forbes (prequel to the Sci-Fi & Fascism ep).

Episode 48: I know I'm recommending too much anyway, but this is a top-tier episode about The Italian Front of WW1, and poet, national hero, and raging rear end in a top hat Gabriele d'Annunzio.

Episode 49: is the second Patrick Cockburn interview.

Pretty much everything past this point has been definitely worth listening too, but I'd especially highlight episode 56: The Sikhs.

And of course, Episode 64: The Sci-Fi & Fascism episode is the god tier.

Pigma Dengar
Nov 11, 2016

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

All of them.

I'm looking through the backlog to see which ones were especially noteworthy. A lot of them get dated because the early episodes were a lot more topical, and only an hour long.

Episode 10 is interesting, because that was the episode when War Nerd commented on Amnesty International's report about YPG/J ethnic cleansing of Arab villages, and AI wrote back saying they weren't doing any of that.

Episode 14 was around the time of the Oregon Militia standoff, so they did a bit about the Mormons' history of warfare with Midwest Protestants & the Federal government.

Episode 18 was the Patrick Cockburn interview on the rise of ISIS.

Episode 20 was the Tim Shorrock interview on Korea, and the history of conflict with the North.

As I'm writing this I'm realizing that my War Nerd fandom is gonna lead me into recommending too much so I'm gonna try and recommend the essentials. I'm just going to bold all the key words.

Episode 30 was the Opium Wars episode.

Episode 39 is about the Cold War counterinsurgencies around the world, with a special feature on Eduard Lansdale - the CIA sociopath who was the inspiration for The Quiet American.

Episode 44: the Nukes episode with physicist Dr. Sunil Sanais. It was recommended earlier ITT and it's a good one.

Episode 47: the North Carolina Civil War episode with David Forbes (prequel to the Sci-Fi & Fascism ep).

Episode 48: I know I'm recommending too much anyway, but this is a top-tier episode about The Italian Front of WW1, and poet, national hero, and raging rear end in a top hat Gabriele d'Annunzio.

Episode 49: is the second Patrick Cockburn interview.

Pretty much everything past this point has been definitely worth listening too, but I'd especially highlight episode 56: The Sikhs.

And of course, Episode 64: The Sci-Fi & Fascism episode is the god tier.

thanks so much, i just moved out and didnt bring a tv because i thought i didnt need one but the silence is brutal. episode 56 it is

Comrade Merf
Jun 2, 2011

rudatron posted:

I feel like this is your opportunity to explain why, instead of being a dick :colbert:

I've only some of his stuff quite a few years ago but if I remember correctly War Nerd believes that the USA using aircraft carriers as one of the primary ways we enforce our military dominion wherever we please is doomed to failure not by socieo-econimic or political means but that aircraft carriers are in fact just giant extremely vulnerable money and manpower traps that can be easily neutralized by just about anyone using whatever form of equipment they have available. Which is a really weird stance when you consider that the United States use aircraft carriers to put aircraft where they need them and that they don't just sit a few feet off the coast of whatever their operational target is and always have sizable escort groups.

He may have some good insight into other subjects or matured and grown his knowledge of nerdy war stuff since he wrote his carrier stuff so I dunno.

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
I feel like that's just an untested assumption. It may legitimately turn out that carriers are actually really vulnerable if ever used against a sufficiently powerful enemy. Submarines have come a long way, surface to surface missiles have come a long way, maybe if you shoot 20+ anti ship missiles at a carrier, it'll just go up in smoke no problems. But you don't really know either way for sure unless it happens.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

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If you join the Patreon do you get access to War Nerd's previous newsletters?

Comrade Merf
Jun 2, 2011

rudatron posted:

I feel like that's just an untested assumption. It may legitimately turn out that carriers are actually really vulnerable if ever used against a sufficiently powerful enemy. Submarines have come a long way, surface to surface missiles have come a long way, maybe if you shoot 20+ anti ship missiles at a carrier, it'll just go up in smoke no problems. But you don't really know either way for sure unless it happens.

Its more that he fundamentally misunderstands the purpose and function of a naval carrier group. I'm not arguing that the carriers themselves are not vulnerable because they are, every major power since WW2 has dedicated lot's of time and money to build their own and/or develop technology to gently caress them over. I mean they are gigantic nuclear powered floating cities that can't go all that fast but their purpose is not to fight it's to sit in the water and refuel and re-arm combat aircraft. It's similar to saying well tanks are useless now because they can be destroyed at range by infantry with modern anti tank systems or that aircraft are now worthless because of modern air defenses. Everything committed to a fight is vulnerable to be knocked out but that is not a sufficient case by itself against using them.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

snoremac posted:

If you join the Patreon do you get access to War Nerd's previous newsletters?

Doesn't seem like it. I checked the newsletters and there's no link to an archive, and I've checked the patreon and there's no links there.

Comrade Merf posted:

I've only some of his stuff quite a few years ago but if I remember correctly War Nerd believes that the USA using aircraft carriers as one of the primary ways we enforce our military dominion wherever we please is doomed to failure not by socieo-econimic or political means but that aircraft carriers are in fact just giant extremely vulnerable money and manpower traps that can be easily neutralized by just about anyone using whatever form of equipment they have available. Which is a really weird stance when you consider that the United States use aircraft carriers to put aircraft where they need them and that they don't just sit a few feet off the coast of whatever their operational target is and always have sizable escort groups.

He may have some good insight into other subjects or matured and grown his knowledge of nerdy war stuff since he wrote his carrier stuff so I dunno.

The United States hasn't fought a country with a real navy since World War 2. CAGs are completely untested against an enemy with large numbers of anti-ship missiles and/or a decent submarine fleet, like the Iranians, Chinese, or North Koreans have.

Hypothetically all they're good for is projecting power against third rate powers who can't defend themselves against the air or the sea.

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

His entire purpose for existence is to beef with other journalists

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

he's been mad salty towards greenwald ever since the snowden leaks made greenwald the internationally famous investigative journalist while he continues to labor in relative obscurity at his own tech billionaire-owned operation

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy

Comrade Merf posted:

Its more that he fundamentally misunderstands the purpose and function of a naval carrier group. I'm not arguing that the carriers themselves are not vulnerable because they are, every major power since WW2 has dedicated lot's of time and money to build their own and/or develop technology to gently caress them over. I mean they are gigantic nuclear powered floating cities that can't go all that fast but their purpose is not to fight it's to sit in the water and refuel and re-arm combat aircraft. It's similar to saying well tanks are useless now because they can be destroyed at range by infantry with modern anti tank systems or that aircraft are now worthless because of modern air defenses. Everything committed to a fight is vulnerable to be knocked out but that is not a sufficient case by itself against using them.
If carriers cannot be protected efficiently, it doesn't matter what utility they provide. It's not about 'whether or not they can fight', that's a total misinterpretation, it's 'can you stop the enemy sinking them', and that's not a question with a simple answer. You could in WW2, but the situation is very different:
- post ww2 submarines are substantially different to ww2 and pre-ww2 submarines, to the point where it's wrong to treat them as the same kind of vessel.
- intelligence gathering has increased dramatically, even ww2 radars were limited by the curvature of the earth to the horizon. That's changed with over-the-horizon radar systems in the 70s, as well as high altitude reconnaissance, satellites and now drone craft.
- cruise missiles are now a thing

All that's not to say that the ~War Nerd~ is right, who knows, maybe he's wrong. Maybe all of those changes don't count for poo poo. But we don't really know for sure, so it's not a totally absurd position to take, that maybe carriers are kind of a doomed category, like battleships before them.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

Comrade Merf posted:

He may have some good insight into other subjects or matured and grown his knowledge of nerdy war stuff since he wrote his carrier stuff so I dunno.

I used to like the War Nerd when I read it a few years ago (think it went behind a paywall or something?) however much of his work suffers from the same kind of problems, or as Rudatron put it he often presents "untested assumptions" as if they were fact. His articles are entertaining in the same way a buzzfeed 10 most bloodiest historical battles piece is, and can be good for introducing yourself to a topic. However whenever he covers subjects which I have read about myself I often notice a marked sloppiness in his choice of evidence, with everything that supports his position given credit and anything that runs counter to his narrative downplayed or simply omitted. He likes to present simple stories, which again are entertaining but can sometimes fall apart under close scrutiny.

I don't have any examples as the exile is now under a paywall but I vaguely remember taking issue with several of his points on the War of the Triple Alliance with which I am familiar, among other examples. Saying American carriers are floating deathtraps is provocative and makes you think, but it is hard to say how much truth is in it.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

zeal posted:

he's been mad salty towards greenwald ever since the snowden leaks made greenwald the internationally famous investigative journalist while he continues to labor in relative obscurity at his own tech billionaire-owned operation

It's because Greenwald is a libertarian.

AlexanderCA
Jul 21, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Comrade Merf posted:

I mean they are gigantic nuclear powered floating cities that can't go all that fast but their purpose is not to fight it's to sit in the water and refuel and re-arm combat aircraft.

Nuclear powered carriers are supposedly some of, if not the fastest naval ships afloat. Those nuclear power plants provide a lot of power.

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

All of them.

I'm looking through the backlog to see which ones were especially noteworthy. A lot of them get dated because the early episodes were a lot more topical, and only an hour long.

Episode 10 is interesting, because that was the episode when War Nerd commented on Amnesty International's report about YPG/J ethnic cleansing of Arab villages, and AI wrote back saying they weren't doing any of that.

Episode 14 was around the time of the Oregon Militia standoff, so they did a bit about the Mormons' history of warfare with Midwest Protestants & the Federal government.

Episode 18 was the Patrick Cockburn interview on the rise of ISIS.

Episode 20 was the Tim Shorrock interview on Korea, and the history of conflict with the North.

As I'm writing this I'm realizing that my War Nerd fandom is gonna lead me into recommending too much so I'm gonna try and recommend the essentials. I'm just going to bold all the key words.

Episode 30 was the Opium Wars episode.

Episode 39 is about the Cold War counterinsurgencies around the world, with a special feature on Eduard Lansdale - the CIA sociopath who was the inspiration for The Quiet American.

Episode 44: the Nukes episode with physicist Dr. Sunil Sanais. It was recommended earlier ITT and it's a good one.

Episode 47: the North Carolina Civil War episode with David Forbes (prequel to the Sci-Fi & Fascism ep).

Episode 48: I know I'm recommending too much anyway, but this is a top-tier episode about The Italian Front of WW1, and poet, national hero, and raging rear end in a top hat Gabriele d'Annunzio.

Episode 49: is the second Patrick Cockburn interview.

Pretty much everything past this point has been definitely worth listening too, but I'd especially highlight episode 56: The Sikhs.

And of course, Episode 64: The Sci-Fi & Fascism episode is the god tier.

Good poo poo, thank you

baalaagaa
Apr 9, 2004
Mark Ames is a complete piece of poo poo, war nerd is a fun listen just don't expect anything close to historical accuracy.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's because Greenwald is a libertarian.
I don't really know what Greenwald "is" anymore. Obviously he was libertarian but I think his ideology has flattened, I don't think he wants to roll back regulations or lower taxes or actually is particularly political at all in that sphere. He seems sympathetic to left positions on a lot of things. But he's usually been first and foremost a sort of ACLU type of guy, like supporting the court's decision in Citizens United hardcore 1st amendment sort of thing. That might have faded a bit for him too in recent years though, like has he come out in defense of Nazi free speech rights lately? I don't know.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

the intercept does good work on my country because of greenwald's boyfriend so i'm fine with him

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I like the work the Intercept does, and Greenwald has been doing good reporting on Brazil and the United States lately, but that doesn't mean I have to trust them.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Got a reply back from the man himself on the newsletter backlogs.

quote:

Gary Brecher
Mulling a few options: 1) password protected website with archives (whole buncha problems with this, starting with our involuntary luddite sensibilities); 2) create individual pdfs of each newsletter to make them easy to email out to anyone who requests, which seems easiest and fairest? 3) create ebook of first [20/30] RWN newsletters, assuming that's doable. We'd definitely appreciate any suggestions or help from you or anyone not suffering from our tech phobias

They're thinking about it. :shrug:

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I like the work the Intercept does, and Greenwald has been doing good reporting on Brazil and the United States lately, but that doesn't mean I have to trust them.

Why is bring owned by Omidyar different from Thiel tho

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Got a reply back from the man himself on the newsletter backlogs.


They're thinking about it. :shrug:

Ah cool, thanks for asking.

Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

All of them.

I'm looking through the backlog to see which ones were especially noteworthy. A lot of them get dated because the early episodes were a lot more topical, and only an hour long.

Episode 10 is interesting, because that was the episode when War Nerd commented on Amnesty International's report about YPG/J ethnic cleansing of Arab villages, and AI wrote back saying they weren't doing any of that.

Episode 14 was around the time of the Oregon Militia standoff, so they did a bit about the Mormons' history of warfare with Midwest Protestants & the Federal government.

Episode 18 was the Patrick Cockburn interview on the rise of ISIS.

Episode 20 was the Tim Shorrock interview on Korea, and the history of conflict with the North.

As I'm writing this I'm realizing that my War Nerd fandom is gonna lead me into recommending too much so I'm gonna try and recommend the essentials. I'm just going to bold all the key words.

Episode 30 was the Opium Wars episode.

Episode 39 is about the Cold War counterinsurgencies around the world, with a special feature on Eduard Lansdale - the CIA sociopath who was the inspiration for The Quiet American.

Episode 44: the Nukes episode with physicist Dr. Sunil Sanais. It was recommended earlier ITT and it's a good one.

Episode 47: the North Carolina Civil War episode with David Forbes (prequel to the Sci-Fi & Fascism ep).

Episode 48: I know I'm recommending too much anyway, but this is a top-tier episode about The Italian Front of WW1, and poet, national hero, and raging rear end in a top hat Gabriele d'Annunzio.

Episode 49: is the second Patrick Cockburn interview.

Pretty much everything past this point has been definitely worth listening too, but I'd especially highlight episode 56: The Sikhs.

And of course, Episode 64: The Sci-Fi & Fascism episode is the god tier.

Thank you!

I think this podcast is excellent and I loved the new one about Bosnia.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

Thug Lessons posted:

His entire purpose for existence is to beef with other journalists

i like both. beefing is good keeps everyone on their toes

Thug Lessons
Dec 14, 2006


I lust in my heart for as many dead refugees as possible.

tekz posted:

i like both. beefing is good keeps everyone on their toes

It's definitely cool to see them beefing with Charles Lister and Michael Weiss but grudgematching at Omidyar or Glenn Greenwald is a pathetic snoozefest

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Exiled was one of the few places that flagrantly danced on Breitbart's grave when his heart exploded, and I'll always love them for it.

quote:

http://exiledonline.com/mark-ames-1-andrew-breitbart-0-exiled-editor-does-dirty-chicken-dance-on-breitbarts-grave/

Breitbart never even rated with a hack like Dennis Miller. He couldn’t act; he couldn’t write. He could only peddle pro-oligarchy hate with a convincing bloated-faced froth. He performed public executions, ordered by the oligarchs; in his Salieri-like little mind, he convinced himself his PR hit-jobs were performance art. I remember when the right-wing used to produce some really formidable hate-mongers, but Breitbart was a Little Leaguer who lucked into a decadent period on the Right. He only stood out in our time because the American Right is so degenerate and feeble. Breitbart knew it too. An old friend of mine who works in one of the NewsCorp outlets told me that just a few months ago, Breitbart was at the NewsCorp pub across from their mid-town New York headquarters, holding a beer, drunk and sweaty, loudly boasting, “The thing people don’t understand about me is—I’m a performance artist. You see? But people don’t get that about me, they totally misunderstand me. I’m a performance artist, everything I do is performance art.” My friend said it was painfully embarrassing to listen to, typical pampered pretentious Los Angeles male bimbo talk…but coming from Breitbart, you’d expect something more formidable.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
I really enjoy these podcasts. Long-time fan of the Exile here. I actually got to have some exchanges with Ames (was a source for some stuff he wanted to do regarding Brazil that never panned out) Taibbi (by complete accident, as he was looking into going to the hospital I was working at for his back problems, because traveling overseas to be treated at a high-end hospital is way less expensive than doing some procedures in the US thanks to hosed-up healthcare) and Dolan.

So happy that Dolan is finally getting some steady income and doing what he likes. Guy really paid a price for his antiwar columns, which is hilariously tragic if you consider how many actual monsters not only skated free but grew richer and more influential for supporting it. I and the other guys at Pando were the ones who urged him to set up a Patreon rather than bounce between crappy overseas teaching jobs where your superiors are ever eager to shitcan you to please some Saudi-fellating investor.

Of course, the irony is that now I'm too poor to actually get onto said Patreon and get my fill. Thankfully he opens some posts now and then, but Im still itching to listen to the one about Italy in WW1 (great-grandfather was taken prisoner there) and a few others.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Sephyr posted:

I really enjoy these podcasts. Long-time fan of the Exile here. I actually got to have some exchanges with Ames (was a source for some stuff he wanted to do regarding Brazil that never panned out) Taibbi (by complete accident, as he was looking into going to the hospital I was working at for his back problems, because traveling overseas to be treated at a high-end hospital is way less expensive than doing some procedures in the US thanks to hosed-up healthcare) and Dolan.

So happy that Dolan is finally getting some steady income and doing what he likes. Guy really paid a price for his antiwar columns, which is hilariously tragic if you consider how many actual monsters not only skated free but grew richer and more influential for supporting it. I and the other guys at Pando were the ones who urged him to set up a Patreon rather than bounce between crappy overseas teaching jobs where your superiors are ever eager to shitcan you to please some Saudi-fellating investor.

Of course, the irony is that now I'm too poor to actually get onto said Patreon and get my fill. Thankfully he opens some posts now and then, but Im still itching to listen to the one about Italy in WW1 (great-grandfather was taken prisoner there) and a few others.

You worked at Pando?


Incidentally, I checked out the BBC documentary that Mark & John recommended in the Bosnia episode, and it's really drat good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_PzsfXbyAw

It's six parts and 4 1/2 hours long, but it's definitely worth watching. I had to keep taking breaks from it because the entire affair was all too stupid. Vulgar nationalisms undid a working multi-ethnic state, and everyone who tried to prevent it ended up being sidelined as traitors.

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