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I liked Ep 1-2, but Winter feels a bit too much like a Deus Ex Machina. The man-servant owns bones and I'm just chomping at the bit until we see more of him going native. All I want from this show is Tom Hardy stalking about and more of this juicy plot. It does speak to the great irony of Victorian upper class issues, namely if you live in a world where everyone woman you new is a snaggle-toothed mudscamp except for own half-sister, and she's the only person your own age you're allowed to talk to without their parents breathing down your neck, it's no wonder this sort of thing was wicked, wicked common
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His dad was poisoned, almost certainly by the EIC, and his sister wants him gone because she has her perfect life and doesn't want her history with him exposed. That seems clear as day to me but I guess any show that isn't wall to wall sex robot orgies or bloodbaths just isn't "gripping enough". I feel like Taboo is tv for people who like to read.
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Jan 23, 2017 15:55
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I just keep reading reviews that are like "this show is very slow & unengaging" and I feel like "how are you talking about the same show I'm watching?" Ghosts and slave ships and cannibalism and international intrigue and I haven't even watched Ep. 3 yet...
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Jan 23, 2017 16:14
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If you don't think the conversation between James and Silva's husband in Ep. 3 isn't loving electric television I don't know what to say. I've been thinking about what this shows themes are and I think the strongest one is Secrets! Everyone is hiding things from everyone, James can't trust anyone but Breiss and even then he accuses him of knowing more than he's saying. The American spy is pretty cool. EDIT: Actually, I also really liked the scene with the King's Administrator and the EIC chairman, because it took two characters who have been sort of established to the viewers through their relationships to their peers, as a servant and a feirsome chairman of the EIC, but in this scene their dynamics shift, and this steward is not this super confident badass because he knows he basically runs England, and the EiC guy is coming off a little desperate despite arguably being the most powerful man in the world, at that time. Bust Rodd fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jan 25, 2017 |
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Jan 25, 2017 11:21
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I don't think I would have ever noticed these ghosts in a hundred rewatches. I just cannot tear my eyes off Tom Hardy. I'm having ' Magic Mike ' flashbacks where I'm just so enraptured by this beefcake (I'm super into tattoos and mysticism) and I keep stopping and being like "maybe I should take a break and watch some porn or something before I totally forget that I'm straight and start stalking this guy." I never stalked Channing Tatum, though, I'm sure he's nice in person but not as tall as I'd like so pffffft
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Ok, now I'm getting a little worried, I feel like there is a ton of stuff to clean up in the next 3 episodes... Also my two projections for places the show could go: 1 I'm a big proponent of Chekov's Gun and so I think that *CHEMISTRY PLOT* The foreshadowing of the experimental french gunpowder experiment makes me thing the quiet little boy with VERY little characterization will get blown up or seriously wounded making gunpowder, like the son from There Will be Blood (which this show reminds me of more and more with each episode) and then everyone who kind of likes James will see how little he cares for the poor dead bastard. Or he's alive and crippled, and James now feels like he must take care of him, but that seems way out of characterw, he'd probably just send him to a swiss boarding school for like 100 pounds a year or something. 2 This one seems WAY TOO BROADCAST for me to not happen but *SISTER PLOT* James and Silva actually gently caress and she gets pregnant with his kid If I had one complaint about the show, it's a thin one, and it's WInter. I guess I don't have a great sense of Victorian London's Geography, but I feel like based on how she is up James' rear end 24/7, the brothel//offices are very close to the docks & riverbank that his house is on? She just keeps popping into scenes, or like sleeping in his flooded basement (?) and I'm always like "Why are you here? What are you adding to this scene or story?". Like I can understand maybe James let's her come and go because she, like him, is mixed race, and will always be an 'N' word to everyone else like he is, but she really seems to just materialize for contrived plot reasons that amount to nothing... Personally, still totally a huge fan, but all the EIC plotlines just whiff for me the second Silva and her husband are onscreen. The Interpersonal drama between James and the two of them is far richer for me and the chemistry between the 3 of them is insane. Meanwhile, I feel like now the Crown and the EIC are basically just taking shots at each other now, which is I guess James' plan all along, but it still feels like that part of the story is kind of happening without him now. Like, he has this grand scheme for how he wants everything to go, and everything seems to be working more or less in his favor, so at this point the show is an exercise in "Which precarious thread will be the first to snap". Also, I get kind of bogged down by how all the EIC scenes are just: "We're SO EVIL!" "Sir, there is someone who is working against us!" "Burn the evidence!" I guess now that I'm thinking about it, I will split-agree with escobarbarian, in that while I think the Silva and Norma plotlines are smart and intelligently written, the byzantine conspiracy with the EIC and the Crown isn't as intelligently laid out to me, which is frustrating because it's the WAY, WAY, WAY more complicated of the plotlines.
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Feb 6, 2017 22:09
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Rocksicles posted:Cool Stuff This owns and does help the picture in my head, cheers
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Feb 7, 2017 02:30
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I think the show is good, but I guess I'm super disappointed in what happened with the Silva plot and the Chichester plot is just barreling ahead. The mysteries have all been solved and nothing bad has happened to anyone we liked (Wynter sucks and I hated her character) so I'm going into the last episode just kinda shrugging like "whats even could happen?"
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Feb 24, 2017 20:41
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Snowy posted:Who grunted more per episode, Tom Hardy or Tim the Tool Man Taylor? Can we get a video of one of the scenes from this show but with that Tim Allen grunt Audio?
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Feb 26, 2017 02:53
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Zilpha's plot line was the only interesting one, honestly, and I am happy that I watched this show but I feel like we really just don't get any kind of explanation or exploration of their relationship, or why James went from magically seducing her to blowing her off. Like yeah there is subtext about madness and the both of them just being violent sociopaths, but it just felt extremely threadbare. If she is actually dead and doesn't appear in S2 I probably won't keep watching. The show literally killed off everyone I liked except for James & Solomon. Escobarbarian posted:Man, what a loving waste of time this show was. And they're making MORE? Count me out. Did you really watch 8 hours of a show you patently didn't like after the first episode? Why keep tuning in?
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Mar 3, 2017 08:31
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Yeah I agree. I genuinely enjoyed it, and it was always beautiful, dark & gritty, but every plot line resolved itself in a very linear fashion, and there were no twists or big surprises. The issue I have lingering is that the madness vs. magic elements were completely undersold on the back half of the show and I really thought Zilpha was the key to unlocking that, but now... I hope S2 bridges the gap between James's mother's tribe and what he did in Africa, since we know they both worship that weird bird.
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Mar 4, 2017 07:05
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Yeah the sister-plot just kind of going "And everyone's lives were ruined... The End!" Still hurts a month later.
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Mar 29, 2017 17:08
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Which has to be from the unexplained, undefined cannibalism, that no one ever addresses, despite it possibly contributing greatly to his schizo-affective tendencies.
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Apr 2, 2017 15:57
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The only person in the show who could have messed him up was Zilva, and they realized the show transforms if John becomes vulnerable so they cleaned it up.
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