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Rookersh posted:Did anything ever come of people saying the leaks she posted had information pertaining to tribal leaders/allies that helped us, which would cause them to be retaliated against? I remember that being a huge issue during her initial trial, that her leaks also hurt our allies. I mentioned this in the Trumpocalypse thread, but one of the more compelling mitigating circumstances to me is that prior to Chelsea's data dump, Wikileaks had done at least a reasonable facsimile of due diligence in redacting potentially dangerously sensitive information that had been passed to them. There was no particularly major reason to assume they'd be less responsible this time around. I seem to recall some folks expressing the somewhat reasonable view that "well, it's just not logistically feasible for Wikileaks to review this much data prior to release", but it does somewhat reduce Manning's culpability in my view even aside from the whole conditions-of-detention and fragile-mental-state thing.
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The Kingfish posted:What manning did was very good. I don't care about our "national security relationships" with brutal dictatorships and I especially don't care if the leaked information got some CIA spooks killed. How about if it hosed over local folks who worked with us? As far as I know it didn't result in any confirmable deaths there (with maybe some hand-waggling in Pakistan), thank Allah, and I support Manning's leaks ESPECIALLY given the information she had at the time on Wikileaks' responsible behavior, but I am uncomfortable with a blanket condemnation of local assets for basically the same reason that I don't think we should institutionally be dicks to people solely because they aren't American. Edit: or heck, rejoicing at the death of CIA employees for being CIA employees. Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jan 19, 2017 |
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