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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
I feel like it's become popular to take swipes at the idea of "civility". The problem with this is that civility, per se, isn't the problem. There's a difference between civility and spinelessness, IMO. You can be perfectly civil while saying "no I don't agree with you in any way and your ideas are atrocious".

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

The person you say that to will call you uncivil for saying that and use that to discredit you. That's the problem with "civility" as a primary political value.

I think we can safely agree that anyone who wants "civility" as a primary political goal is at best a silly ninny.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Tiny Brontosaurus posted:

Agreed, but then we aren't published in the New Yorker, are we.

Where I come from, that's a point of pride.

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