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Not a Step posted:Where did it go? Why did the basic constraints of fairness break down? In the economic sense? Decades if not most of a century of concentrated effort on the part of the wealthy elite and capitalist classes. The Great Depression and the New Deal were a huge setback for them, but they have spent all this time lobbying for legal conditions that benefit enriching themselves and working to destroy and demonize the existing unions and prevent any attempts to organize in the new businesses generated in the technology booms of the last 40 years. Worker rights and mobility are, in many industries, at a low not seen since the Gilded Age, and the only thing preventing them from getting worse are the minimum wage and debtor protection laws that prevent Wal-Mart from operating a company store.
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Kilroy posted:Is there any way forward from that which doesn't involve one side browbeating the other into compliance? Yes, but it's essentially breaking both the major parties (which is very necessary at this point anyway). The centrist and leftist Dems could go their separate ways, and the business conservatives could divest themselves of the homophobic and racist 'moral majority' types who will never be satisfied by any candidate that doesn't profess to hate as hard as they do. Unless Trump fucks up so hard as to get us near to a shooting civil war I don't think it'll happen, though.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:How do we radicalize your mom? I've had good luck with this by simply openly discussing the goals that have turned me into a leftist. Some discussion of economic inequality issues and the need for single-payer healthcare was pretty influential on someone looking at retirement age and a little worried about her benefits vanishing or another crash eating her retirement.
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