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The most likely thing in the next 4 years is the use of some hyper specific tactical nuke like a nuclear bunker buster against a terrorist in a cave and then everyone going "oh geez" a lot and it making the world a shittier and less secure place but not actually directly lead to any sort of nuclear holocaust directly.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Now correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that the Joint Chiefs are running around with guns in their pockets in when they come to the White House, so this seems logistically improbable. The guns they got up their sleeves are probably enough to defeat a 70 year old man in poor shape who is ordering them to end the world they live on in nuclear hellfire.
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Jan 20, 2017 15:48
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Cerebral Bore posted:They might have a spot of trouble with the Secret Service agents and/or Trump's private bodyguards, though. Is trump a reaper? is he indoctrinating soldiers? Why would any of those people be in favor letting trump first strike russia and starting some weird random nuclear war?
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Jan 20, 2017 16:05
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LolitaSama posted:But how do you knock out Nuclear Subs? Wouldn't the presense of those always ensure America couldn't knock out China's strike back potential? So is it because they simply have less that MAD isn't enforce or because they couldn't launch the little that they even had? If you could take nuclear subs out of the equation, and if this was the case, Israel would be in huge poo poo too. Not hard to knock out the Nuclear capabilities of a country the size of new jersey. You know the band "megadeth"? that is named after the concept of "megadeath" which was a cold war idea about counting out how many millions of people would die that was talked about in the context that as there could be an acceptable amount of megadeath. How many million people could those submarines kill? Not 300 million, so we would win, hurray! "tragic but distinguishable postwar states"
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axeil posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_strategy You missed the most hosed up one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
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Antti posted:However, "some general will just shoot him in the face" is plain wishful thinking. The US system has been built from the ground up since the end of WW2 so that the US President has sole discretion over the decision (the SecDef merely confirms that the President gave the order), and is surrounded by an apparatus whose only job is to guarantee he can execute that decision once he's made it. Nuclear weapons were centralized and civilianized to the POTUS and the DOE for a good reason, because the US military was full of nuts who would've gladly used tactical nuclear weapons. Now it's backfiring though. It also is wishful thinking that the military strips humans down to be automatons that take orders and aren't people. Like yeah, if there is an ongoing conflict with russia and trump orders a first strike then yeah, there might be nothing that stops that. If trump wakes up at 2am and reads a mean tweet from cher and declares that we are going to nuke her house then the guy he tells is going to say "go back to bed trump".
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