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Crocoswine
Aug 20, 2010

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Tills
Feb 9, 2010

Lowtax posted:

We can all learn some valuable lessons about morality from the brave, selfless, principled hero who ran a forum dedicated to making people's lives miserable, a site that declared war against us because I failed to ban all the filthy transsexuals and uppity negroes, a gem of the internet that was on a crusade to cause the downfall of this site. It is utterly incomprehensible and unexpected that such a site would be shut down by some person whose sole motivation was to ruin the life of somebody he felt deserved it.

Sometimes the world can be remarkably cruel and unfair to saints like null, who dedicated his life to running a forum for stalking, harassing, and ruining the lives of people they felt deserved it.
Did the memory loss kick in earlier then everyone thought it would or did you just post blindly without ever reading your forum or frontpage for over a decade? Who am I kidding its both isnt it :suicide:
Off the top of my head I remember the Tea Party Community, a right wing Facebook that was destroyed by a goon swarm doing things like doxxing users for shits and giggles and filling the global news feed with a neverending stream of hardcore porn.

Anyway for realtalk hello folks. I stopped lurking a few years ago, but wanted to give my perspective. Kiwifarms had quite a few SA users even before this last week, the spirit was supposed to be more like SA's glory days where people find funny poo poo and post it for everyone to enjoy but it attracted too many people that just wanted to rage or attack others to make themselves feel superior. Some of us just wanted to laugh at crazy people being crazy without having to scour the entire internet for leads, in a place where you wouldn't be banned for calling a crazy person crazy and laughing at them.

The guy that killed the site actually wanted Kiwifarms help originally. He approached a user to get him to attack whoever he was stalking at that time, and had been a member for years. The user figured he'd be funnier so posted about him instead which started the crusade. I'm being entirely serious when I say if he shows up don't antagonize him, if he targets you he will do things like send terrorist threats to local schools or hospitals, harass everyone in your extended family and their employers, in one case he apparently threatened someones child in some form for hosting the site. He was member of an evanescence forum and discovered underage fans were exchanging information and possibly pictures, and when he wasn't given complete access to the forum (such as PM's) tried to have the band and its producers arrested for pedophilia. He stalks teenagers and was able to blackmail one of them within a day of that victim coming forward after 8 or so years. He started a motion in parliament to have that particular victim declared a pedophile or something when she was 17 because she was made a moderator on a new evanescence forum after his earlier actions killed the official one.

You might think kiwifarmers are bad, we are pussies compared to this guy.

papa_november posted:

i gotta say that i really expected kf to last many, many years longer than it did and that upon it's eventual demise it's refugees would just repeat the cycle and ascend to whatever new blipvert internet platform would exist at that point and find ways of continuing their utter nastiness into their thirties and forties by dousing it in pure ideology
It's not dead, it's just out of Nulls hands now. He literally thought he was going to be murdered over the last couple years and made contingencies just in case.


I love you too bb.

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


Tills posted:

Did the memory loss kick in earlier then everyone thought it would or did you just post blindly without ever reading your forum or frontpage for over a decade? Who am I kidding its both isnt it :suicide:
Off the top of my head I remember the Tea Party Community, a right wing Facebook that was destroyed by a goon swarm doing things like doxxing users for shits and giggles and filling the global news feed with a neverending stream of hardcore porn.

Anyway for realtalk hello folks. I stopped lurking a few years ago, but wanted to give my perspective. Kiwifarms had quite a few SA users even before this last week, the spirit was supposed to be more like SA's glory days where people find funny poo poo and post it for everyone to enjoy but it attracted too many people that just wanted to rage or attack others to make themselves feel superior. Some of us just wanted to laugh at crazy people being crazy without having to scour the entire internet for leads, in a place where you wouldn't be banned for calling a crazy person crazy and laughing at them.

The guy that killed the site actually wanted Kiwifarms help originally. He approached a user to get him to attack whoever he was stalking at that time, and had been a member for years. The user figured he'd be funnier so posted about him instead which started the crusade. I'm being entirely serious when I say if he shows up don't antagonize him, if he targets you he will do things like send terrorist threats to local schools or hospitals, harass everyone in your extended family and their employers, in one case he apparently threatened someones child in some form for hosting the site. He was member of an evanescence forum and discovered underage fans were exchanging information and possibly pictures, and when he wasn't given complete access to the forum (such as PM's) tried to have the band and its producers arrested for pedophilia. He stalks teenagers and was able to blackmail one of them within a day of that victim coming forward after 8 or so years. He started a motion in parliament to have that particular victim declared a pedophile or something when she was 17 because she was made a moderator on a new evanescence forum after his earlier actions killed the official one.

You might think kiwifarmers are bad, we are pussies compared to this guy.

It's not dead, it's just out of Nulls hands now. He literally thought he was going to be murdered and made contingencies just in case.

Cool

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer
Ah yes... There's the punch line I've been waiting for.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Tea Party Community and Freedom Book were two of the coolest things SA has done recently. Also we're still here on this dead gay forum.

Digital Fingers
Sep 2, 2012

Trunko posted:

Ah yes... There's the punch line I've been waiting for.

Starwars Betamax was actually the only goon who went over there for the sole reason of telling them doxxing was bad, btw.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
Here is what I learned about not getting doxxed this week:


1) Avoid posting personal information and limit identifying details.
2) When possible try not to fund and administrate a web forum dedicated to harassing transsexual people in real life.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

Digital Fingers posted:

His mom got fired from her job because a dude sent all her coworkers child pornography and that is actually kinda of "boo hoo"

e:


I have no idea what this means

Don't run a site that's backbone is doxxing people to ruin their lives if you don't want your own life and the lives of the people around you ruined.

Like sure, it's not 100% her fault that her lovely son made a lovely site made for harassing people, but acting like they never personally attacked anyone and now it's a bad thing because it's happening to their site owner is just ridiculous.

I don't condone doxxing or sending anyone child pornography, or causing anyone to lose their jobs. But it's very obvious why it happened here.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


If she doesn't have a job she'll have a lot more time to stay home and keep an eye on her son.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Tills posted:

You might think kiwifarmers are bad, we are pussies compared to this guy.

is that that Vordrak guy

Digital Fingers
Sep 2, 2012

GonSmithe posted:

Don't run a site that's backbone is doxxing people to ruin their lives if you don't want your own life and the lives of the people around you ruined.

Like sure, it's not 100% her fault that her lovely son made a lovely site made for harassing people, but acting like they never personally attacked anyone and now it's a bad thing because it's happening to their site owner is just ridiculous.

I'm not acting like Null is some blameless victim, I also think that null pretending that the reason he did what he did was because of "free speech" and a love of transparency was some weaselly loser justification because he didn't want to admit he's just an rear end in a top hat .

I just feel bad for his mom and it makes it hard for me to start slobbering over my own knob and giving goons highfives about this.

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


Xaris posted:

is that that Vordrak guy

Yeah

SA also had helldump, literally the same thing as kiwi farms, just aimed inward

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit
I'm glad I got most of my stupidness out before Social media and dozzing poo poo really blew up./


Worst I got was a couple FYAD threads mocking me.

Grant DaNasty
Jul 17, 2006

Rhys Wilde posted:

This was a man with no ethics or morals, who went to any end necessary to achieve his goals. He is a man so dangerous, that even saying his name on your website puts you at risk.

Tills posted:

I'm being entirely serious when I say if he shows up don't antagonize him.



If he shows up I hope Koalas March probates him with a sassy gif.

Sitting Here
Dec 31, 2007
Everyone is bad. Thank you for your time.

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

Grant DaNasty posted:



If he shows up I hope Koalas March probates him with a sassy gif.

Lmao

It's pretty teling which posters were web 1.0 and web 2.0 from all this. Just saying

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


Also the op implies that kiwi farms invented the idea of Jenner being a troll. It was me that suggested Jenner was a troll here, cause of a weird 'niggerstomper' name drop she did in a post that seemed really uncharacteristic.

If she wasn't a troll then I'm sad she got banned. But I didn't get the idea from kiwi farms.

Epitope
Nov 27, 2006

Grimey Drawer

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

Haha, nobody gives a gently caress. Nobody. That long rear end post means exactly poo poo to anyone. Forums drama doesn't exist anymore. Go back to whatever hole you crawled out of, rear end in a top hat.

I dunno. I saw there was some drama so I went to kiwifarms but it appeared to be just another site of bitter people on a crusade against, something... so who cares. But it seems it got Lowtax to care and come back, and Lowtax is cool and good, so thanks kiwi farms I guess?

Sitting Here
Dec 31, 2007

Tills posted:



You might think kiwifarmers are bad, we are pussies compared to this guy.



I'm sensing the makings of a really good buddy cop film in all of this, actually. SA is the aged veteran who's too old for all this poo poo and kiwi farmers are the young guns hungry for action.

a star war betamax
Sep 17, 2011

by Lowtax
Gary’s Answer
Never has something awfuls motto rung truer

Isaac
Aug 3, 2006

Fun Shoe
They should have made the website from the same stuff they build the black boxes on planes from

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*
Jenner wasn't a troll, she was very real. She met plenty of goons from the lady thread in real life. I can also guarantee she intentionally martyred herself, I have some pm's with her.

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Sid Vicious posted:

Can I get a motherfuckin TLDR bro

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Tonetta posted:

Jenner wasn't a troll, she was very real. She met plenty of goons from the lady thread in real life. I can also guarantee she intentionally martyred herself, I have some pm's with her.

TBQH that was really stupid of her to do

HoAssHo
Mar 10, 2005

:love::love::love:
I love when people come into threads to say how no one cares about the topic even though the thread already has multiple pages of posts.

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem
Jenner was real


real stupid

:newlol:

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

TBQH that was really stupid of her to do

It was her choice, and ultimately it stopped the doxxing long enough for the site to be closed. She was a true patriot.

Slow-Scan Shep
Jul 11, 2001

Tills posted:

It's not dead, it's just out of Nulls hands now. He literally thought he was going to be murdered over the last couple years and made contingencies just in case.
it is immensely stupid that someone would take up null's mantle after he got thoroughly made an example of. it is also immensely dumb that someone would spend real time and money to do so knowing that the crazy counter-stalker is out there waiting for them if they succeed, along with god knows what other consequences of the site's dumbshittery.

Slow-Scan Shep fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Jan 21, 2017

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


Bismuth posted:

Jenner was real


real stupid

:newlol:

Own3d

Argh
Feb 15, 2005
the one thing ive learned from all of this is that i will never ever stop believing that everything i read on the internet is true

also

Rhys Wilde posted:

His campaign involved sending childing pornography to everyone involved in her real estate career under an endless supply of pseudonyms.

shouldnt voldemort go to prison then? wizard prison? internet wizard prison?

why are people using abused children as Internet Ammo

what the gently caress is going on

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

Tonetta posted:

It was her choice, and ultimately it stopped the doxxing long enough for the site to be closed. She was a true patriot.

How do you figure that it stopped the doxxing? That seems like a ridiculous stretch.

E: Also lol at her insane martyr complex.

SIDS Vicious
Jan 1, 1970


My body is ready

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Jesus loving Christ

Bismuth
Jun 11, 2010

by Azathoth
Hell Gem

Funky See Funky Do posted:

How do you figure that it stopped the doxxing? That seems like a ridiculous stretch.

They were laughing at her so hard they couldnt see their monitors

Regrettable
Jan 5, 2010



el mayo

Tonetta
Jul 9, 2013

look mother look at ME MOTHER MOTHER I AM A HOMESTIXK NOW

**methodically removes and eats own clothes*

Funky See Funky Do posted:

How do you figure that it stopped the doxxing? That seems like a ridiculous stretch.

They went on a double digit page tangent over her posts and mindfucked themseles into thinking they were trolled (they were, but not by who they think) and didnt end up trying another doxx intil ZDR/FAU and both were fake. It was the end.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Funky See Funky Do posted:

How do you figure that it stopped the doxxing? That seems like a ridiculous stretch.

E: Also lol at her insane martyr complex.

It's definitely a ridiculous stretch, linda like how forums admin ZDR is Absolutely Kirk Johnson.

Digital Fingers
Sep 2, 2012

papa_november posted:

it is immensely stupid that someone would take up null's mantle after he got thoroughly made an example of. it is also immensely dumb that someone would spend real time and money to do so knowing that the crazy counter-stalker is out there waiting for them if they succeed, along with god knows what other consequences of the site's dumbshittery.

Null had the disadvantage of already having his real identity known and also living with his mom, the insane dude wasn't some sort of CSI level cyber detective. Someone who knows how to hide their tracks/doesn't have a social media presence could run it no problem.

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Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD

Tonetta posted:

They went on a double digit page tangent over her posts and mindfucked themseles into thinking they were trolled (they were, but not by who they think) and didnt end up trying another doxx intil ZDR/FAU and both were fake. It was the end.

That seems like one of those correlation =/= causation kinda things to me.

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