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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:i don't know about theoretical foundations of marx but africa did pretty poorly 1960 onwards with self professed marxist governments and now that a lot of them liberalised around 20 years ago they've done a lot better so that must say something about marxism The 1960s post-colonial Africa where former colonial powers attempted to destabilize all of the nascent nations to maintain control of the resources that attracted colonizers in the first place? Where Western powers propped up or installed corrupt politicians or autocrats like Mobutu, Bokassa, or Bongo? Where Lumumba was assassinated for friendly overtures to the Soviets even though even the CIA officer tasked with killing him said he was no communist? Where the Belgians supported Katangan secession so they could keep their hands on the resources there, or the Brits supporting Biafra for their oil? Where apartheid South Africa occupied Namibia and invaded Angola to fight efforts to build socialism? How about the myriad scandals of France's ELF? Are we going to forget the intentionally under-developed conditions that existed in post-colonial Africa, a legacy of the extractive, exploitative nature of Western capitalism in Africa?
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Fiction posted:Of course not. We can't be anti-communist without ignoring the hundreds of millions of people killed by capitalist, imperialist exploitation. Duh, that might make capitalism look not so great E: Reminder that "concentration camps" as we know them were started by one colonial occupier to corral another colonial occupier And Hakimashou, the Germans didn't need any external help for the Holocaust SyHopeful fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Mar 31, 2017 |
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Mar 31, 2017 16:28
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Typo posted:Some of the most successful economic development of the last 100 years occurred under corrupt western backed autocrats and some of worst disasters occurred under self proclaimed democrats who were vehemently anti-western Huh, makes u think
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Mar 31, 2017 16:43
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:it's very unfortunate that we cannot always get goods where they are needed but to say that capitalism has not reduced scarcity even in africa is pretty dumb imo is it as dumb as talking about socialist efforts in Africa without giving a shred of consideration to externalities?
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Mar 31, 2017 20:57
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