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mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

Hmm, I think this needs a cool update.



It needs a bunch of *'s too. For their cheating.

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Even in his prime though his arm strength was a major issue. The Raider game in the 2002 playoffs was hard to watch him throwing floater after floater when they they were playing 9 in the box.

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Magnetic North posted:

No, don't. It's not worth it.

It's actually fine when you expect nothing. I'm gonna actually be upset when they win games this year.

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Amy Pole Her posted:

That's where I'm at. They are missing some crucial pieces but theyve still got solid talent

Not counting rookies, they really don't have any talent anywhere but on the DL and 2 of those guys are big question marks coming off of really bad years. It's probably the worst roster in the NFL.

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Amy Pole Her posted:

You guys cut a lot of names I was thinking of, and I'm used to you guys having pure stud Dlines.

I'm shocked. They've been decimated. Wtf

This was the right thing to do. They are much better off tearing it down than winning 6-7 games with vets on their last legs. There was no path toward being competitive in 2017.

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Real hurthling! posted:

On downs when richardson, wilkerson, and williams played at the same time, jets opponents had a qbr of 80 and 8 yards per attempt. Worse stats than when any one of them were on the bench. Not really sure how that happens if they are all monsters individually.

Are they much better when only 2 or 1 of them play? I would guess that that had a lot more to do with the horrific secondary and linebacker play they got last year... (Not saying that they don't need to get rid of at least 1 of the 3...)

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https://twitter.com/Connor_J_Hughes/status/867031857879240705

Just gonna leave this here.

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Jul 1, 2004

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quote:

Jets QB Josh McCown is getting the first-team reps and looks sharp. Christian Hackenberg, almost picked off on his first pass attempt in team drills, is working with the second team today. Still waiting for this so-called QB competition to get real.

Rich Cimini, ESPN Staff Writer

These are never not entertaining.

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I couldn't have been a good enough person in a previous life to see Geno Smith: Starting QB for the Giants.

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Real hurthling! posted:

Harris to pats is a brilliant strategy to ensure that games with a 1% chance of victory go to .01%

Jets really focusing on the details this year.

Harris isn't a good player anymore. I like him as a person and it will be a feel bad to see him on that shitfuck team but it's a meh football move.

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The second you put that logo on your body you just magically become a piece of poo poo.

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There is no way a good coach like Sean Payton or one of the hot college coaches comes to the Jets OTHER THAN if Darnold comes with the job. That is why they have to go 0-16.

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Real hurthling! posted:

They're winning 2-4

Who are they beating other than the Browns maybe? The Bills at home? That is 2. I can't see any more than that.

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Chris James 2 posted:

A split with the Dolphins is possible, never count out the Chargers to lose a game they should win

My favorite part of their WYTS this year is the truest part: they're the Jets. They'll always do worse than you think. What's worse than getting 0-16 when it'd benefit you most is winning just enough games to not have the #1 pick, which is exactly why it's going to happen

They are gonna start Hackenberg too at some point and he has even less of a chance of lucking into a win than McCown does.



Real hurthling! posted:

The team will suck until the johnsons sell dont get hopes up for next year.

There are lots of moronic owners who luck into a good team. It's possible that they actually do get a QB next year.

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Real hurthling! posted:

Theyre like incapable of staffing a competent office.

They basically hire people to tell them who to hire. It's not impossible that next time they hire someone competent, especially if a no brainier guy like a Sean Payton is available.

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There is no way Bob Kraft is any smarter than Woody Johnson. He just hired the right coach and lucked into a qb.

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Diva Cupcake posted:

Well Kraft is an accomplished businessman whereas Woody inherited $2 billion, managed to not lose it, and flips $100m penthouses for fun and profit.

I see 2 potentially winnable games on the Jets schedule this year, home v Bills and home v Jags. Anything else is just pure dumb luck.

You forget the Browns game.

They are gonna have Hack in there by the next bills game.

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evilweasel posted:

he does the two things that an owner needs to do to be a good owner: (a) hired the right coach (and GM) and (b) stayed the gently caress out of all decisions beyond those two and let the competent people he hired run the thing instead of sticking his fingers in repeatedly

you would think (b) would be easy but somehow a lot of owners find it difficult

Trust me, if his Coach/GM didn't win he wouldn't stat out of it. It's easy to leave a guy alone who wins.

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evilweasel posted:

uh tell that to jed york

or hell, tell it to jerry jones

Jed is just an extraordinary idiot. And the Cowboys are pretty well run.

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evilweasel posted:

jerry jones fired the guy who won him two super bowls because he was mad the coach was getting credit instead of jerry jones and the cowboys were stunningly mediocre for a long time as a result (despite the one super bowl they won with the departing coach's team that jerry took credit for)

I'd take that for the rest of my life.

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fsif posted:

If I owned the Bills it'd probably be pretty hard for me to just sit back completely and not meddle at all. I like Tyrod and Sammy and there was no way I'd let Fred Jackson go when they did.

Your decision making couldn't have been worse than the Bills over the last 10 years. Same with mine and the Jets.

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evilweasel posted:

after all its not all owners who will pay their QB under the table to make sure their GM has extra money for the rest of the team

There is no way Kraft came up with that himself. It's all Belichick.

SHOAH NUFF posted:

As funny and deserved as it was, probably not the smartest career move for Harbaugh or any employee to call their boss a child in front of the entire organization

He probably was thrilled that he got fired.

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Real hurthling! posted:

Hired is very polite language.
Yeah....That is true. I guess he deserves credit for being a piece of poo poo enough to pull that maneuver even though it cost him picks.

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1 year and 2 games into the Hackenberg Era he's inactive and Bowles said he will be inactive as long as Petty is healthy.

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Real hurthling! posted:

Jets hung in the game too long i was getting scared for a second.

Don't worry, there is a law about the Jets special teams being a horrific joke that has been in effect since Westhoff left.

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One thing about the Jets "tanking,' there isn't one veteran player they cut who is making them look bad...

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Diva Cupcake posted:

Pretty much. Even David Harris only managed 1 snap this week.

Shows how horrible the roster was even last year and that 2015 was all a product of a really easy schedule.

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Ehud posted:

I am just here to gloat to anyone who said cutler isn't a drop off from Tannehill

He's not. They both stink. Cutler is better.

Dolphins wanted no part of this game today though.

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Real hurthling! posted:

Jets gonna somehow not lose the division because they hate me

They are't going to lose the division and they probably won't even get a top 5 pick either...

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Real hurthling! posted:

They will be 3-2 by next sunday

Yeah probably.

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The Jets really tried to tank that game..

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The cheats couldn't use Kony Ealy?

Real hurthling! posted:

They will sign mccown to a 10 million dollar deal

They are gonna end up having to trade up or sign Cousins. They have to do one of those though.

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Cash Monet posted:

The Jets will pick in the 6 to 10 range and the Giants will land in the top 3 and get Rosen or Darnold.

The Prophecy has been foretold.

If the Jets have to give up multiple future 1's to trade up than so be it.

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sirtommygunn posted:

Jets are ok with first round picks, it's the second round picks we should be treating as worthless.

Yeah though they have to take some offensive players at some point.

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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:

Taking Hackenberg in the second was very offensive.

They have been wasting 2's WAY before Hack was a thing.

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Diva Cupcake posted:

You're not seeing that out of Wilkerson. Mo is JAG-tier now and almost certainly getting cut after this year.

The best Jet DL this year isn't Wilkerson OR Leonard Williams...

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Dre2Dee2 posted:

Just about 90% of the Jets who were on this team last year are having awful seasons so far, whether they are still on the roster or somewhere else


The No Name Draft Selections

We mentioned this before but there isn't one player the Jets let go in the offseason who is making them look bad for that decision. That includes Sheldon Richardson.

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Real hurthling! posted:

In the good universe the pats wouldnt keep getting bailed out by stupid decisions like not going for it 4th and 1 or trusting nick folk.

They are going to be the worst 12 win team in NFL history.

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There were actually idiot Jet fans who thought the fact that they beat 2 terrible teams to go 2-2 meant they were any less horrible than people expected them to be.

Edit: They still just aren't close to as competent tankers as the Browns are though. Not in the same league.

Edit 2: They are gonna be taking bows all week for being 3-2 too.

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sirtommygunn posted:

The Jets are the worst team I've ever seen with a winning record this far in the season. They can barely beat the Browns and Jaguars with basically everything going their way.

The early schedule has been about as easy as it could be. That's over now though.

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