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Timby posted:I still can't believe the Bears are going to punt the best quarterback they've ever had out the door (especially when he has no guaranteed money left) just because Pace and Fox are sick of hearing Joe from Naperville rip into them on talk radio and desperately trying to save their jobs. They are punting him because Fox hates him. I'm not sure Pace feels the same way, but I suspect that Pace is going to give Fox Hoyer and enough rope to hang himself.
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Mar 7, 2017 06:39
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To be fair, they're not in a position to win right now, and Cutler isn't going to make a difference in that with the time in his career remaining. If you're going to rebuild, bite the bullet and rebuild. Give some younger guy a chance to improve or prove himself.
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Abugadu posted:To be fair, they're not in a position to win right now, and Cutler isn't going to make a difference in that with the time in his career remaining. If you're going to rebuild, bite the bullet and rebuild. Give some younger guy a chance to improve or prove himself. I'm not sure this is true. The defense is poised to improve and they are letting their top flight WR go. They are cutting a QB they know can start, even though they have some offensive weapons. I think John Fox is a bad coach and a fraud. He wants to get rid of good players if they are not robots, because he is too big a baby to deal with opinions.
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Mar 7, 2017 17:01
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I have confidence that whatever decision the Bears make regarding Cutler will be the wrong one.
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Mar 7, 2017 18:03
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Sataere posted:I'm not sure this is true. The defense is poised to improve and they are letting their top flight WR go. They are cutting a QB they know can start, even though they have some offensive weapons. I think John Fox is a bad coach and a fraud. He wants to get rid of good players if they are not robots, because he is too big a baby to deal with opinions. They also don't have a young QB to push and drafting one and throwing him to the wolves seems dumb.
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Mar 7, 2017 21:29
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Timby posted:I still can't believe the Bears are going to punt the best quarterback they've ever had out the door (especially when he has no guaranteed money left) just because Pace and Fox are sick of hearing Joe from Naperville rip into them on talk radio and desperately trying to save their jobs. Especially for Mike Glennon of all people.
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Mar 7, 2017 22:27
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the bears are absolutely going to 'move on' from cutler & alshon then attempt to replace them with glennon & mike williams because the front office will be worried about losing their jobs. mark my words.
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Mar 7, 2017 22:38
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mastershakeman posted:the bears are absolutely going to 'move on' from cutler & alshon then attempt to replace them with glennon & mike williams because the front office will be worried about losing their jobs. mark my words. I want to think the only way you do this is with an eye to draft your next quarterback and have him sit for a year or maybe two. But it doesn't sound like the Bears are thinking that....so it's Glennon + a drafted WR or bust?
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Mar 7, 2017 22:41
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mastershakeman posted:the bears are absolutely going to 'move on' from cutler & alshon then attempt to replace them with glennon & mike williams because the front office will be worried about losing their jobs. mark my words. You make a change and get 2 years of "They just need time to grow with the team and learn the system." Free pass.
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Mar 7, 2017 22:45
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Athanatos posted:You make a change and get 2 years of "They just need time to grow with the team and learn the system." Free pass. Pace is safe, I think. He's had to rebuild a dumpster fire of a roster and shown improvement. Fox is the one who has to go at least .500 to save his job. And the man wants Hoyer as his quarterback, so I don't like his chances.
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Mar 8, 2017 00:15
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If you're going to draft a quarterback to sit on the bench and develop why would you not keep Cutler?
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Sataere posted:Pace is safe, I think. He's had to rebuild a dumpster fire of a roster and shown improvement. Fox is the one who has to go at least .500 to save his job. And the man wants Hoyer as his quarterback, so I don't like his chances. The Bears 2016 draft class also looks like it might be really good. Please don't ask about 2015 though
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Mar 8, 2017 01:31
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Emanuel Collective posted:The Bears 2016 draft class also looks like it might be really good. Please don't ask about 2015 though I mean, Goldman looks pretty good too. Langford has contributed. It sucks that White broke his leg and Grasu got hurt, but I would still give them both another year before writing them off completely.
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Mar 8, 2017 03:44
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SKULL.GIF posted:If you're going to draft a quarterback to sit on the bench and develop why would you not keep Cutler? "He just doesn't look like he cares enough. Now that Glennon, he'll stick his neck out for anyone in the locker room."
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Mar 8, 2017 04:24
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Cutler's going to win a SB next year and I'm going to laugh my loving rear end off.
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Emanuel Collective posted:The Bears 2016 draft class also looks like it might be really good. Please don't ask about 2015 though Frankly, 2015 isn't even that bad considering the dumpster fire that are 2009-2014. The Bears got a whole TWO good players over those 6 drafts. Pace hitting in 2016 is such a breath of fresh air.
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Mar 8, 2017 17:18
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I'm still not sure Pace has really hit on all that many picks, its just that there's a lot of new starters because they were starting over from scratch after a decade of horrific GMing.
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Mar 8, 2017 17:40
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Well yeah. The roster was so barren that you can't judge it against itself. While I absolutely believe the drafting has been better, it's going to be a while before we can really identify how much better.
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Mar 8, 2017 17:43
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BAE OF PIGS posted:Cutler's going to win a SB next year and I'm going to laugh my loving rear end off. jay cutler loving sucks
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Mar 8, 2017 19:06
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mastershakeman posted:I'm still not sure Pace has really hit on all that many picks, its just that there's a lot of new starters because they were starting over from scratch after a decade of horrific GMing. I think if is safe to say that he has produced four legitimate starters in the NFL at this point in Goldman, Floyd, Whitehair and Howard. I guess poo poo can still happen with them, but all of those players have shown they can play in the NFL. It's really a question of if the above players can reach the next level and a few more starters/role players start establishing themselves over the next couple years.
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Mar 8, 2017 19:19
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Goodbye, RILLLLLEEEEEEEYYYY! http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/0ap2000000273946/Sound-FX-Matthew-Stafford-s-Fake-Spike-Game
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Sataere posted:I think if is safe to say that he has produced four legitimate starters in the NFL at this point in Goldman, Floyd, Whitehair and Howard. Floyd could easily turn into a turd just like Fuller did, especially with the weird injury issues he's already had. Goldman is just a guy, the other two are pleasant surprises but are re-drafts of guys the year prior (Grasu, that bad rb from MSU) The important thing is to stay angry at the bears forever
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mastershakeman posted:Floyd could easily turn into a turd just like Fuller did, especially with the weird injury issues he's already had. Goldman is just a guy, the other two are pleasant surprises but are re-drafts of guys the year prior (Grasu, that bad rb from MSU) Goldman was showing more than being just a guy, although being hurt all last year, so who knows. Whitehair wasn't drafted to be a center, injuries and the one dude retiring thrust him into that role. And Langford is fine as a third down back. Just expecting him to be Forte was dumb. Being angry at sports is dumb if you do it all the time. I save my anger for special occasions, like Trestman"s second season. Otherwise, my rage is devalued.
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Mar 8, 2017 20:18
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Bears going all in in Neck Osweiler
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it's cool and good that the Bears are always going to be poo poo
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my favorite thing is deciding which lovely bears quarterback glennon is going to be like. getting a jonathan quinn vibe from him. e: Cade NeckNown R.D. Mangles fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Mar 9, 2017 |
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R.D. Mangles posted:my favorite thing is deciding which lovely bears quarterback glennon is going to be like. getting a jonathan quinn vibe from him. If you don't see Chad Hutchinson, you ain't been paying attention
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Shangri-Law School posted:Goodbye, RILLLLLEEEEEEEYYYY! What's the story on Riley? From the outside it appeared he needed some development to find his footing as a starter and settled in as an okay RT but not the LT it was hoped he'd be. Is he just okay? I imagine the Lions are paying a lot for Ricky Wagner and that seems surprising considering they had Rieff.
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WHOOPS posted:What's the story on Riley? From the outside it appeared he needed some development to find his footing as a starter and settled in as an okay RT but not the LT it was hoped he'd be. Is he just okay? I imagine the Lions are paying a lot for Ricky Wagner and that seems surprising considering they had Rieff. He's not any good.
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Mar 9, 2017 05:01
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Reports are the Glennon deal will average 14.5 mil over 3 years. Jesus Christ
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Mar 9, 2017 15:01
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Emanuel Collective posted:Reports are the Glennon deal will average 14.5 mil over 3 years. Jesus Christ lol bears
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Mar 9, 2017 15:16
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What the gently caress Pace
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Mar 9, 2017 15:22
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And apparently Stephon Gilmore was "disappointed" with the Bears offer. This is absurd.
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Mar 9, 2017 15:36
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Emanuel Collective posted:Reports are the Glennon deal will average 14.5 mil over 3 years. Jesus Christ All that matters is guaranteed money. If he gets paid Brock money, I will be pissed. Otherwise, wait and see. Emanuel Collective posted:And apparently Stephon Gilmore was "disappointed" with the Bears offer. This is absurd. Where did you hear that? And looking at what the Pats offered, any offer would be disappointing.
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Bears plan: Prepare to lose Alshon and Cutler. Sign Glennon to basically what Cutler makes, instead of keeping Hoyer. Then don't spend any money, so that they can keep Cutler on the roster until September before finally cutting him, in a hope that he won't get a starting job elsewhere and make the organization look bad if he were to play well elsewhere
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Mar 9, 2017 16:11
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mastershakeman posted:Bears plan: I don't think they can wait that long. His contact becomes guaranteed at some point, doesn't it?
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Sataere posted:I don't think they can wait that long. His contact becomes guaranteed at some point, doesn't it? no idea bears are gonna draft mike williams round 1, some random LT round 2, round 3 peterman, round 4&5 two kickers
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