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PJOmega posted:I forget, is the Unique pip per player or for the table as a whole? For the table, https://arkhamdb.com/rules#Unique
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If you Exile a card, are you required to replace it after the end of the scenario? Or can you then end up playing with a 29 (+bonus cards) deck?
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Kerro posted:If you Exile a card, are you required to replace it after the end of the scenario? Or can you then end up playing with a 29 (+bonus cards) deck? From the rules: quote:Some player cards in The Dunwich Legacy cycle must be exiled when they are used. When a card is exiled, it is removed from the game and returned to your collection. During campaign play, a card that has been exiled must be purchased again with experience points (between scenarios) if you wish to re-include it in your deck. If exiling 1 or more cards would reduce your deck below your investigator's deck size, when purchasing cards between scenarios, you must purchase cards so that a legal deck size is maintained (when purchasing cards in this manner, you may purchase level 0 cards for 0 experience cost until a legal deck size is reached).
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That's such a cool and thematic mechanic. Short term power hampering your long term development.
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Feb 7, 2017 23:59
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The flare seems a lot better than the fire extinguisher, since you can play it straight from hand and the fight effect is really action efficient. Whereas the fire extinguisher takes an action to put into play, takes a hand slot, and the fight action really doesn't add much. Also, Flare has the wild skill icon. Taking into account the investigators who can use these, Flare looks even better: Currently Wendy, Ashcan Pete and Agnes can use these cards. Of these, Wendy already has access to Rogue cards that let her cheaply get away from (granted, not evade) all enemies, so Fire Extinguisher's second action seems dubious, and the first action doesn't help her low combat at all. This leaves Ashcan and Agnes, but these tend to be capable of killing enemies so aren't necessarely looking for a big evade. Although granted, they both don't value their hand slots very high. Flare on the other hand can let Wendy fight (and use her ability to avoid a bad token) or have a decent shot at putting a Leo de Luca (or a Cat Burglar) into play for a cost of 2, which is certainly something. If you also run Peter Sylvestre because you're going to grab Charisma once that card releases, the chance of hitting some ally with cost over 2 to put into play is even better. Furthermore, while Agnes and Pete can already fight and are currently less likely to have multiple big allies to search for, the +2 damage with a combat value of 5 still seems like it could justify the card slot for either of them. Am I missing anything?
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The best thing about fire extinguisher to me is that it's scavenge-food with a great extra feature if things go south. I'd rather bring a fire extinguisher than a lovely knife, that's for sure. It's an agi pip too, so it's not tied to fighting, and you can keep a nimble wendy on the move. I think it's pretty balanced and opens up some interesting, exciting playlines. On the subject of TMM, gonna be weird being Daisy with two Necronomicons - one which gives her good effects, one which gives her bad effects. Is the John Dee translation written in Comic Sans? Plavski fucked around with this message at 10:28 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Feb 8, 2017 10:17
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Anyone done full spoilers for Miskatonic Museum yet?
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Feb 8, 2017 13:19
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How would you get the fire extinguisher in the discard pile to scavenge it back though? Just keep pitching it on agility checks? So far I'm finding that the least performed check. And then if you are pitching it all the time it means you haven't equipped it when you do need it.
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Feb 8, 2017 13:58
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Really wished I had preordered Dunwich Legacy. I've been waiting for it to restock and it's still sold out everywhere
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Feb 8, 2017 14:32
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You should have had. It's got a bloody stealth mission!
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Feb 8, 2017 14:42
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What happens if you attach Jenny's weakness to a location that is removed from the game later?
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Feb 8, 2017 15:08
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Fat Samurai posted:What happens if you attach Jenny's weakness to a location that is removed from the game later? It's discarded, same as if Zoey's weakness was attached to an enemy which gets discarded through means other than defeating that enemy (for example by Close Call or certain effects in The House Always Wins or Carnevale of Horrors).
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Really wished I had preordered Dunwich Legacy. I've been waiting for it to restock and it's still sold out everywhere How badly do you want it? Fantasy Flight is my FLGS, and last I checked they still had a bunch of copies on the shelf. PM me and I can buy one and ship it to you.
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Feb 8, 2017 22:54
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Yeah, the thing that frustrates me most about this game is how it's constantly sold out all the time. Idk if it's new game hype or FFG was extra conservative with print runs or what.
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Feb 8, 2017 23:19
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Most likely conservative initial print. It is a co-op game after all, and 2 coresets handle 4 people. Plus I'm sure the subsequent international shipping fiasco with Banjo going bankrupt haven't helped.
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Feb 8, 2017 23:23
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If you don't mind ordering from outside the US there are generally tons of options available for out of stock stuff. A number of UK stores in particular have non-ridiculous US shipping, e.g. 365games.co.uk which has 6 GBP international shipping ($7.50 USD)
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Feb 8, 2017 23:57
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Kai Tave posted:Yeah, the thing that frustrates me most about this game is how it's constantly sold out all the time. Idk if it's new game hype or FFG was extra conservative with print runs or what. The store I'm getting it from was saying around Christmas and January that AHLCG was their best selling game by far, so if FFG went with regular LCG launch expectations the shortage is understandable.
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Orange Devil posted:How would you get the fire extinguisher in the discard pile to scavenge it back though? Just keep pitching it on agility checks? So far I'm finding that the least performed check. You can pitch it by replacing it. You can get it out, chuck it for a fire axe and scavenge it back for committing or playing again.
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Plavski posted:You can pitch it by replacing it. You can get it out, chuck it for a fire axe and scavenge it back for committing or playing again. But that does nothing. Less than nothing even. You have the spend the click to install the Fire Extinguisher, then you install the Fire Axe, trash the extinguisher, then get it back via scavenging when you could get back an item that you actually want and are pitching for pips. Like Rabbit Foot.
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You don't have to do it all on one turn, you can play a longer game. In a multiplayer scenario, you can often get swamped by enemies. Combined with Taunt, you can get the entire area looking at you, pop the extinguisher and get your whole group the hell out of dodge. But if that scenario doesn't arise, or you think you're able to handle it, you can replace it with something more immediately useful, use the extinguisher as an agi pip, or just keep it around for the extra fightiness and scavenge it up again if things are looking hairy. There is a lot of benefit to playing from your discard pile and knowing you have an Evade All right there for you after a successful investigate looks very solid. We're also seeing a lot more hand assets that aren't fighty, and we'll get more. You won't have to scavenge weapons, you'll be able to bring out your flashlights, extinguishers and a whole host of other things. The ability to play pure scavenging support will be very useful going forward, and fire extinguisher plays into that. When poo poo goes south, having a fire extinguisher at the ready seems pretty useful and I know I would have loved having it in a some of the games I've played.
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Pete is the only investigator who can run both Taunt and the Fire Extinguisher, and I don't really see why he'd want Taunt in his deck. Also, if you're Scavenging the Fire Extinguisher that means you explicitly don't have it 'at the ready'. Playing it would cost an action and provoke opportunity attacks.
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He's the only investigator right now sure, but that won't always be the case. There is a lot of design space here, and while this card might not be essential now there are lines of play that it makes available. Its exile effect is strong and its ability to linger in your discard pile to be brought back with scavenging is useful. I'm not sure if you play Netrunner, but that game has taught me that not every card needs to be in every deck, and not every card needs to work flawlessly the very second it is released. Cards like Power Tap were roundly mocked for years in Netrunner until a Runner ID appeared that made it an auto-include. That happens a lot in Netrunner and I can very much see it happening here. Taunt + Fire Extinguisher + "Return all exhausted enemies at your location to encounter deck" card. I will not be surprised to see space like that open up in deck construction and combo plays taking on a stronger emphasis as we get further into the card pool. Scavenging opens up Shaper Bullshit for Arkham and that can't really be under-estimated.
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One thing I'm wondering about these one-shot exile cards is if it'll mean final scenarios of each campaign shall get extra difficulty jump, as everyone will invest in these powerfulshort-term solutions. PS. I've played Curse of the Rougarou twice and feel so lucky to have drawn Peter Sylvestre within the first act each time.
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Kai Tave posted:Yeah, the thing that frustrates me most about this game is how it's constantly sold out all the time. Idk if it's new game hype or FFG was extra conservative with print runs or what. SUSD just did a gushing review of it, so it's about to get turbo sold out.
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Obama 2012 posted:How badly do you want it? Fantasy Flight is my FLGS, and last I checked they still had a bunch of copies on the shelf. PM me and I can buy one and ship it to you. I'd be game for that. What do you need me to PM you?
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Today I realised that you can use Forbidden Knowledge in combination with Fire Axe to get multiple attacks with +1 damage without having to risk un-boosted attacks. Throw it on Agnes and you even get to ping for 1 extra damage as you do it.
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Miskatonic Museum player card spoilers, y'all!
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Wow, almost all of these cards are amazing. Is there an actual release date for Miskatonic Museum yet?
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bobvonunheil posted:Wow, almost all of these cards are amazing. Street date is Thursday, February 16th (so this week).
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My friends and I finished our second runthru of Night of the Zealot and it literally came down to the final turn where we had to hope that Encounter Deck didn't bump up Doom counters and the Chaos Bag didn't screw us over.  , that victory felt great.I was playing Zoey and after killing monsters I was frantically going through my deck to find Lita as a backup plan, I would have drawn her on my last action before the Big Bad arrived so I couldn't get her out. Fortunately I was not at the ritual site so I think I could have gotten the alternate victory condition barring drawing a monster on our last turn.
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So, I just learned this game existed. Having something Lovecrafty and cool to dick with solo in my free time sounds really appealing, and I might be able to talk my girlfriend into playing. I did have a couple questions/concerns I wanted to run by you goons before I ask my FLGS to order it for me. Does solo play actually work, or are you going to end up forcing it to work, and the game ends up kinda janky and weird without two players? When playing solo, do you control two investigators, or just one? How far does replayability realistically go? Is there enough variability of events in the core to get a good chunk of time out of it? Or, after one or two playthroughs, are the events predictable enough that you start to need expansions to keep the game challenging? Lastly, I heard that two core sets are highly recommended, and some characters kinda suck unless you have the extra cards. Is this correct, or is that kind of exaggerating the necessity? Is the same true for the other little expansions, or the Dunwich box? Is it possible to just proxy a bit, or are there tiles, dials, or tokens that are necessary and would be difficult to proxy? Beyond that, any advice for someone looking to maybe buy in to the game in the near future? Thanks!
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thocan posted:Does solo play actually work, or are you going to end up forcing it to work, and the game ends up kinda janky and weird without two players? When playing solo, do you control two investigators, or just one? quote:How far does replayability realistically go? Is there enough variability of events in the core to get a good chunk of time out of it? Or, after one or two playthroughs, are the events predictable enough that you start to need expansions to keep the game challenging? quote:Lastly, I heard that two core sets are highly recommended, and some characters kinda suck unless you have the extra cards. Is this correct, or is that kind of exaggerating the necessity? It's really much better with two (thankfully, between Dunwich and core set, enough of the spare encounter cards are used in multiple scenarios, so they feel like a convenience rather than complete waste). quote:Is the same true for the other little expansions, or the Dunwich box? Is it possible to just proxy a bit, or are there tiles, dials, or tokens that are necessary and would be difficult to proxy? quote:Beyond that, any advice for someone looking to maybe buy in to the game in the near future? Thanks! Unless you're really shy and undecided, go buy both cores from the get go, you'll thank me later. Personally, I'd recommend getting a binder for cards, but ymmv in terms of storage solutions.
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Also, as it's an LCG, treat it like a more of a cardboard mmo subscription, rather than a game in a box.
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Solo is certainly a different experience, but I've found it to work ok so far (though granted, most of my games have been 4 or 3 player). You can play actual solo, or if you prefer run 2 characters controlled by yourself I suppose. I'd definitely recommend getting 2 cores (or proxying), as you're really going to want 2 of certain cards to make your character work consistently, which if anything is even more important when playing solo. Especially the mystics just end up not able to do anything if they can't draw their spells. Everything but the core you're only going to need 1 copy of. After 1 or 2 times you're definitely going to know all the major events in each scenario, but you can still replay beyond that with different investigators or player numbers and get a different enough experience. This is helped by most scenarios having some randomization in the layout which means you won't 100% know what's happening every time. I'd say I've gotten maybe 7-8 plays out of the core set campaign, and I'm now pretty thoroughly done with it. The Dunwich campaign, I've only started once and so far I could easily see running through it another bunch of times. If you're on the fence, check out a Team Covenant playthrough video or similar, see if it appeals to you, and if it does I'd recommend diving in with 2 core sets and buying expansions whenever you feel like a new scenario.
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There are also standalone side scenarios which you can slip in between your core campaign scenarios. While they are notoriously difficult, they give you a bunch of XP, so you can get bigger and better upgrades for returning to your main campaign. With stronger decks from a larger cardpool, this will allow late campaign scenarios to really shift around as you go in stronger due to upgrades. It's a double-edged knife though, as if you gently caress up in the side-scenarios, it can really hurt you back in the main campaign. Gives you some nice options though, and if you treat it like an RPG, it can be nice to see your character grow and adapt over time
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All Miskatonic Museum cards got spoiled: http://www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/arkhamhorror/arkham-horror-the-card-game/_/the-dunwich-legacy-cycle/the-miskatonic-museum/. Note that this page also has scenario spoilers, blurred, but tempting. The player cards we didn't know about are: Pathfinder (fantastic movement increase for 1xp; gonna changeup a lot of scenarios) Smoking Pipe (more Agnes buffs and nice to cover Roland's weaknesses) Painkillers (nice to shore up low health investigators or to push fighters harder) Emergency Aid (no xp, good for co-op. ability to heal allies is pretty nice)
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Holy poo poo, Pathfinder.
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If I was to investigate then play Double or Nothing and Deduction in the same skill check, do the effects of Deduction apply twice or only once?
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bobvonunheil posted:If I was to investigate then play Double or Nothing and Deduction in the same skill check, do the effects of Deduction apply twice or only once? From the FAQ: quote:Double or Nothing says you “resolve the effects of the successful test twice.” Whatever effects that would resolve based on the test being successful, those are resolved twice. That means anything that adds to the effects (like Vicious Blow or Deduction) or replaces the effects (like Burglary) will resolve twice. Effects that are responses to a successful test (like Scavenging, for example) won’t be resolved twice, though.
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