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Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

LadyPictureShow posted:

I like both Faceoff and CM, not only because it's interesting to see people make cool stuff, but a lot of the contestants seem really good-matured and helpful to one another. I haven't seen every season of Faceoff, did Syfy try to insert false drama on the show in early seasons? I feel like the most critical thing people have said about other contestants is like 'He spent too much time making a prop'

Yes; while the overall tone of the show kind of was showing through (and it's what people liked enough to make them eventually stop doing the false drama thing) they tried all kinds of ridiculous poo poo in season 1, and somewhat in season 2. By season 3 they stopped entirely.

I mean it's not NEARLY as bad as most shows; like I said, the tone of cooperation and a kind of professional attitude was there, just buried under poo poo like Syfy trying to push this whole dramatic love triangle thing in season 1. It wasn't enough to ruin the show but it was annoying as hell.

Season 3 is the one where pretty much all of that stuff stopped entirely. Most of the drama from that point comes from legitiamtely butthurt artists and people getting pissy about tolding their work sucks, which while I know they edit video, is pretty consistent with the attitudes of the people involved. My favorite was the guy who did that melty face poo poo-man, then ragequit before he could get sent home. I truly don't believe the show had anything to do with that, the guy bitched on the internet and tried to sue them for months.

LadyPictureShow posted:

My boyfriend asked me if any contestants from previous seasons ever didn't complete a look for a challenge?

Aforementioned melty face man was the first instance of this. He turned out the biggest piece of poo poo you've ever seen in your life, it looked like someone threw colored clay at a model like baseballs and went with it.

The second instance I can think of was that softcore porn girl that honestly wasn't all that bad and legitimately earned her spot in the top 4, but then had an emotional breakdown over her boyfriend or something and bailed on the whole show... which is doubly stupid because she'd probably been eliminated that night but gone out with an honorable "you didn't quite make the finale, but you did good." Instead she looked like a complete loving idiot.

If I remember right, I think she works for "Zorg" now. I'd like to see ol' Zorg again.


ED: Anyone remember which season / who that guy was that had a total freaking meltdown in episode 1? It was truly hilarious.

ED: Oh yeah, in earlier seasons, there were also several instances of major technical problems with the lab equipment loving people's stuff up and them being given a safe-pass because of it; also several instances of them using models not used to the chemicals, that started having breathing attacks 30 seconds after getting suited up; they too got given safe-passes. Basically several times an artist didn't finish during the show, but almost all of those cases were health related to the model or a legitimate problem with the lab and nobody was sent home over them. I don't think it's an issue anymore since all the models are kind of long time associates with the show and don't have problems and they've worked out just about every kink in the lab.

Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Apr 6, 2017

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AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Cosplay Melee is ok so far but I think I'm going to get pretty tired of the format pretty fast. Even when compared to Face/Off.

Every CM episode we're going to have to see the picture of the host being kissed by Norman Reedus to show how much of a super fan she is and we're going to have one of the contestants always say they recognize her from Community, for example.

But this poo poo is coming from someone who can't stand how Glenn Hetrick always says "Goooood Evening" when he's introduced and who notices when Mckenzie Westmore sounds slightly different when she delivers her lines, so whatever.

lifts cats over head
Jan 17, 2003

Antagonist: A bad man who drops things from the windows.

LadyPictureShow posted:

My boyfriend asked me if any contestants from previous seasons ever didn't complete a look for a challenge? Not things like Ben covering the rat-witch hands with fingerless gloves or a not so stellar paint job, but like a catastrophic gently caress-up.

Nothing's coming to mind except that one guy from season 5(?) that threw a fit and left on the first episode.

I'm betting Evan, Logan, or Emily is getting the axe tonight. But at the same time, with Adam gone, Logan had a pretty good showing on his own last week.

There was that guy who made a killer rabbit (I think) and the body was just fun fur. Also that girl who was awful and drew paws on what looked like mittens.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

"We're in the last six of an All-Star season of Face Off. Why sure I'll just attach an entire face crooked and hope for the best."

:lol:

Dr Zaius
Jan 2, 2001

Smells Like Team Spirit
Also a cat tunnel would be a really fantastic outfit for my diplomat.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

AndyElusive posted:

Cosplay Melee is ok so far but I think I'm going to get pretty tired of the format pretty fast. Even when compared to Face/Off.

Every CM episode we're going to have to see the picture of the host being kissed by Norman Reedus to show how much of a super fan she is and we're going to have one of the contestants always say they recognize her from Community, for example.

But this poo poo is coming from someone who can't stand how Glenn Hetrick always says "Goooood Evening" when he's introduced and who notices when Mckenzie Westmore sounds slightly different when she delivers her lines, so whatever.

I'm getting really tired of them constantly trying to justify cosplaying and make the contestants talk about how important it is to their lives and how it empowers them. Like, I appreciate why they do it but I'm sick of it happening every episode.

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.
So Season 12 starts on June 12. From a hiatus to barely a month's break in between.

Miz Kriss
Mar 17, 2009

It's only an avatar if the Cubs get swept.
If you wanna talk crazy contestants, who was it that was pretty poo poo, only liked doing goth/horror makeups, and when she was eliminated, she kept saying they eliminated her because she was fat.

And for the record, I liked George's makeup, even if it was colored like an action figure. I didn't like Emily's actually. It felt like the big chunks of black veins covering 80% of the top of the head distracted from the overall look, but whatever.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Miz Kriss posted:

If you wanna talk crazy contestants, who was it that was pretty poo poo, only liked doing goth/horror makeups, and when she was eliminated, she kept saying they eliminated her because she was fat.

And for the record, I liked George's makeup, even if it was colored like an action figure. I didn't like Emily's actually. It felt like the big chunks of black veins covering 80% of the top of the head distracted from the overall look, but whatever.

Missy Munster. She was a full-on juggalo. Still not as crazy as that Joe guy from season 3.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

LabyaMynora posted:

Missy Munster. She was a full-on juggalo. Still not as crazy as that Joe guy from season 3.

She's pretty crazy
http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/1093111/missy-stell-interview-face-off

quote:

"I'm not as bitter as I used to be. I was still pretty pissed that I got sent home for a makeup I didn't feel was the worst thing on that stage. I mean, there was a team that didn't even do the [expletive] challenge and they were safe... I really, really, really thought in my head that I could make it to the end. This is what I do day in and day out. There have been artists on previous seasons that don't [expletive] do this [expletive]. This is what I do every day. This is my career. I thought I was going to do good, but I guess not. In the end, it is reality TV and it's more of a popularity contest than what you actually do."

quote:

What does she really want the viewers to know about herself?

"That I'm not just some [expletive] dumbass that runs around in crazy clothes that doesn't know how to do anything. I dedicate my entire life to what I do. I'm a huge artist [in] every sense of the word. I'm into science. I'm into the occult. I'm a smart, intelligent person. I'm not just some [expletive] idiot that picked up a paintbrush and decided to call it my career. I'm extremely passionate about what I do.”
Entitled much?

Quisty
Apr 10, 2008

I like to pinch.
Did anyone notice one of the contestants, Marty, on CM was a Goonette? I can't remember her SA forum name, but she did a huge thread a couple years ago about being a party princess at kid's parties.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



Quisty posted:

Did anyone notice one of the contestants, Marty, on CM was a Goonette? I can't remember her SA forum name, but she did a huge thread a couple years ago about being a party princess at kid's parties.

AssassinPrincess.

Quisty
Apr 10, 2008

I like to pinch.

LadyPictureShow posted:

AssassinPrincess.

Yes! Does she still post on SA? I'd love to hear how the show was.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!

Quisty posted:

Yes! Does she still post on SA? I'd love to hear how the show was.
Don't know if she still posts here, but she has a Twitch channel where she mostly draws (often taking ideas from the chat): http://twitch.tv/funwithpunko

She discussed her time on Cosplay Melee during a stream earlier this week.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

"I'm afraid that your personal manifestation of a Polynesian God isn't anatomically accurate."

Neville is such a hilarious weirdo

Johnny Longtorso
Nov 24, 2007
The Man Who Comes In Pieces!
Looks like this was another case of past performance overcoming a bad week, because based solely on this week, Emily should have gone home.

Why do people keep violating the first rule of Face Off: "Never Do Lava"?

Miz Kriss
Mar 17, 2009

It's only an avatar if the Cubs get swept.
It feels like Emily and Tyler have been relying on looks they did in previous challenges ( Tyler and his love of making faces out of vines, Emily with strategic nature placements on the bosom). Like, it was interesting the first time. Now I'm just wondering if that's all they can do.

I also think there should have been a bottom 3 because Cig and George were the only two who made good makeups. (Popsicle sticks!)

Miz Kriss fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Apr 12, 2017

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

Miz Kriss posted:

If you wanna talk crazy contestants, who was it that was pretty poo poo, only liked doing goth/horror makeups, and when she was eliminated, she kept saying they eliminated her because she was fat.

A show that has Glenn Hetrick as a star is not discriminating against weird fat goths.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Yeahhhhh my boys Cig and George kickin' rear end and taking names.

Also there was no way they were going to send Emily home, dunno why they even bothered with the DRAMATIC REVEAL at the end.


Johnny Longtorso posted:

Why do people keep violating the first rule of Face Off: "Never Do Lava"?

"... unless you're Anthony"

Mywhatacleanturtle
Jul 23, 2006

Cig's entire existence is weird to me. He SHOULD represent everything I hate about hipster culture, but somehow I find him charming as hell.

Dr Zaius
Jan 2, 2001

Smells Like Team Spirit
I love how everyone is still wearing shirts with Ben's face on it.

Mob
May 7, 2002

Me reading your posts

Mywhatacleanturtle posted:

Cig's entire existence is weird to me. He SHOULD represent everything I hate about hipster culture, but somehow I find him charming as hell.

Yeah he should be, but he's really nice and a goober. I definitely did a quick 180 on him in his first season

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

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I hadn't seen Cig and George before, and at the start of the season, I just immediately thought 'my God they look insufferable'.

But they showed me how wrong I was...

drowned in pussy juice
Oct 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
ya cig is "quirky" in a way that made me think I would hate him but him hanging out with george who i've always loved is an amazing pairing and I love watching them work together

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Hipsters are usually aloof poseurs but Cig is the real deal. He genuinely loves sculpting goofy monsters, he's got a great work ethic, he's really talented and he seems to be a really nice open friendly guy.

drowned in pussy juice
Oct 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
I think probably the most beautiful thing about this season has been George, Cig, Ben, and Evans' custom tshirts

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.

Johnny Longtorso posted:

Looks like this was another case of past performance overcoming a bad week, because based solely on this week, Emily should have gone home.

Why do people keep violating the first rule of Face Off: "Never Do Lava"?

Nah. I thought Emily's face was rather good. Logan's was bad to the extent that I laughed every time I saw it. Way too much contrast in the face with the cracking + the fake plants + the moulded flowers.

Dr Zaius
Jan 2, 2001

Smells Like Team Spirit
And that loving nose. Don't give your Polynesian god a gigantic goofy nose.

And in Emily's defense, her god was literally the god of volcanoes and lava so there wasn't much choice there. It looked a lot better in the end than I expected given how loving bad it appeared when she was freaking out over the cowl.

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



I hope the grand prize they've been advertising the whole season has just been a ruse, and the actual prize is a lifetime supply of those Ben shirts.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Dr Zaius posted:

And in Emily's defense, her god was literally the god of volcanoes and lava so there wasn't much choice there. It looked a lot better in the end than I expected given how loving bad it appeared when she was freaking out over the cowl.

I guess she could have made the lava effect look more specifically Hawaiian, there's a type of lava called pahoehoe which looks like long ropey strands of hair and there's even a pahoehoe formation in Hawaii called Pele's Braids. There's other lava phenomena which the Hawaiians call Pele's Hair and Pele's Tears which she could have included although they're not quite as visually interesting.
She also could have made the entire sculpt look more regal and godlike rather than making it look like a random D&D lava creature.

On the other hand they've had a few topics this season which were basically "Make a human figure, but not so" such as "Make a cursed witch" and "Make a god" where if the contestants didn't have a great idea immediately it was way too easy for them to flounder. I dunno what Logan was supposed to do with "God of Agriculture", I think any of the contestants would have struggled with that.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

This was one of those kinda esoteric themes the show does every once and a while but Cig fuckin nailed it.

Alien Sex Manual
Dec 14, 2010

is not a sandwich

Cig mentioned in a Facebook post that they don't have internet access so I think it's unfair to say that Emily should have gone with specifically Hawaiian lava formations. That's not something the average non-Hawaiian is going to know about even if they're into mythology.

Logan's was weak but even Neville pointed out that "agriculture" is such an abstract concept that he didn't even know if a makeup could be made from it. I felt kind of bad for him but it was a pretty unattractive makeup.

JuniperCake
Jan 26, 2013

Snowglobe of Doom posted:


She also could have made the entire sculpt look more regal and godlike rather than making it look like a random D&D lava creature.


Yeah, I think this was the biggest problem. If she had more sweeping forms and elegant curves it would have worked much better. Modeling after Hawaiian forms would have been cool, but not necessary to salvage the make up. She just needed a little less spiky monster and more regal deity.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Labes for days posted:

Cig mentioned in a Facebook post that they don't have internet access so I think it's unfair to say that Emily should have gone with specifically Hawaiian lava formations. That's not something the average non-Hawaiian is going to know about even if they're into mythology.

Huh, I could swear I've seen them browsing through a whole bunch of images on their ipads which looked suspiciously like they were doing a google image search.

Miz Kriss
Mar 17, 2009

It's only an avatar if the Cubs get swept.
If I got to choose, I would have put Tyler over Emily in the bottom 2 just for the fact that the entire head was a 4th grade social studies project :colbert:

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Huh, I could swear I've seen them browsing through a whole bunch of images on their ipads which looked suspiciously like they were doing a google image search.

I'm thinking the tablets might have like a sort of limited/pre-loaded picture set.

https://popcultureuncovered.com/2017/04/12/face-off-how-could-you-be-so-ignorant-about-hawaiʻi/

After the guy in the article raged about 'do your googling!' Kassychoo (not sure which previous contestant that is) explains that reference photos/articles they can go come preloaded and are limited and specific to the challenge.

Johnny Longtorso
Nov 24, 2007
The Man Who Comes In Pieces!
I'm sorry, that lovely piece of styrofoam spraypainted and stuck to the back of the model to be a "wing" is good enough to get George into the finale?

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Didn't expect Corn Head to take it over a vaguely Victorian Gargoyle, but here we are.

Johnny Longtorso posted:

I'm sorry, that lovely piece of styrofoam spraypainted and stuck to the back of the model to be a "wing" is good enough to get George into the finale?

A last minute lovely piece of styrofoam spraypainted and stuck to the back of the model to be a "wing" was good enough to get George into the finale.

Alien Sex Manual
Dec 14, 2010

is not a sandwich

I love George, but I was also surprised by that. I think Tyler's was just too generic, while George definitely had a Deconstructionist look to his face.

I appreciated Tyler's shoutout to the Disney Gargoyles series, though. :kiddo:

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Miz Kriss
Mar 17, 2009

It's only an avatar if the Cubs get swept.
I loved George's happy dance in the interview clip that he was going to the finale.

Also I think that even though George's creature was kinda ugly and haphazard, I think deconstructionism is supposed to be kind of a middle finger to architecture, so in a way George really succeeded. Still don't like that stupid wing though, but hey, it worked.

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