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Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

TheDon01 posted:

I always love how friendly everyone is in this compared to any other reality competition shows.

One dudes mold was stuck and there's 4 of them out there helping him pry it open, guy's mannequin falls over and half the show helps him stand it back up.

I like the fact that the pre-set teams actually completely shut down the one place things got incredibly nasty / reality showish (though I don't doubt this was organic and honestly it seemed drat near random when it'd happen) were the show-chosen team ups. You'd get oil and water on the same team, or one person who really DID gently caress up badly, and then one of the team would have to throw the other under a bus. It was the only thing that really broke the spirit of "people working together to make cool things."

So I actually like the team format. I want them to make cool poo poo, and the coolest poo poo to win. The occasional horrific disaster is hilarious and entertaining, but for a few seasons it was almost all disaster.

Factor Mystic posted:

Aw yeah, the Good Time Fun Time Makeup And Crafting Show For Best Pals is back! And they built in an official friends feature this time around! I love it. I want everyone to win.

Glad to see Tyler, George, Emily, Logan, and Mel back for sure. The only person I can't really recall is Gage but that was Season 1 so I'll give myself a pass.

I really was hoping for Rashad and Roy but I think the theme is runner ups, not finalists.

I guess Zorg and that one girl who quit one episode early instead of going out with dignity were busy.

ED: Also thank God they're doing all stars, most of the contestants they'd gotten recently were hot garbage.

DarklyDreaming posted:

I find it hilarious that everyone was excited about getting to use green-screen but when they saw their creations in motion they were all "Oh poo poo this technology has limitations" :byodood:

I quite disagree with who won though. The spiked up, semi-transparent runner up was legitimately cool and the winner had stupid detached arm bands floating off the main body that didn't look connected by anything. It really should have gotten dinged by that, plus the other one was flat out cooler with smarter design decisions.

Was kind of surprised. I mean the one that won wasn't awful but I think it was the clear 2nd place design.

Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Jan 27, 2017

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Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Yes, that episode is why I watch the show. Good stuff all around and a crappy failure to laugh at. If it takes all-stars to get more than mediocre results, then by all means.

Also I like the 2-person team thing. Keeps the pace up, and it means people are free to work with people and make every project a two-person job.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Yeah I think it was a great decision, especially after last season where my reaction to most of the 'finished' pieces was "That's it? That's all they did?"

Doubly gently caress Focus Challenges.

I am 100% convinced they were a thing due to severe budget cuts that season, with everyone going "Well poo poo, we only have 2 days, what the hell can they make in 2 days that is more like 1.5 days given last looks is day 2?" and coming up with the idea to do just one piece of the makeup. It looked like poo poo, it wasn't fun to watch and it kneecapped the coolest thing about the show (watching people do crazy poo poo).

Add in the fact half the people in the focus challenge seasons weren't up to the challenge and eh God, it was not good. I sincerely hope that focus challenges are dead and buried.*

* I would be OK if they assigned one member of the team a focus of one area and the other member another, since that still ends up with a complete make-up, but honestly I rather have no more 2-day challenges ever.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

DarklyDreaming posted:

A Monster High episode seems entirely within Face Off's wheelhouse and yet also a pointless cash grab by Mattel at the same time

Well this is the show that proudly announces people's credits and includes just the worst loving movie/shows without batting an eye. It always surprises me when something like that comes up, and go "Are you sure these people want credit for that movie?"

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Hef Deezy posted:

For real. I already thought Emily was super talented based on her season, but the collaboration between her and Tyler has been stellar. Their makeup was incredible and more than deserved that win. Also Emily's wig work is a great secret weapon to have, since janky styling can really sink an otherwise good makeup.

Sad to see Niko and Cat go, but their piece really was weak. Overall I thought the designs were pretty good for a two-day challenge, though.

Yep, the people they lost to are NEVER going to make the finale, so it was kind of sad. They had potential but that design was horrible.

And I think the Emily/Tyler team up is working so well not just because they both have talent but because they cover each others weaknesses well. Emily's lack of movie knowledge STILL persists - this was a HUGE problem for her on her season, I had forgotten the sheer damage it did to her at a few points when she had no idea what she was trying to make - but she covers for it with some serious paint, hair, etc. skills. Meanwhile Tyler seems to have a good grasp on pop-culture to keep them on track towards whatever it is they're supposed to be making, while being good in several areas as well.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

smackfu posted:

SyFy is making another run at a cosplay show which seems like it has a lot of overlap with Face Off.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?utm_campaign=buffer&utm_source=twitter.com&v=cu2B9ythLjY&utm_medium=social&utm_content=bufferfacdd

I love the elaborate outfits people make for these things that get posted on the net all the time (That Transformers costume in Japan that could actually transform was loving hilarious), but some reason I have a strong feeling I wouldn't be able to stand this show anyway.

Part of what makes Face-Off so watchable is the fact that most everyone has this kind of professional attitude; they're there to get recognition and show off their skills, and many have spun the show into a successful effects career. They're all clearly aspiring career professionals with a feeling they care more about getting an awesome demo reel on TV than even winning the prize. Where as the kinds of people who will likely be on a show like this, just off name alone, are likely to be the kinds of people that would make you want to jump off a roof after a few episodes.

Maybe I'm quick to judge and I'm sure there will be some nice contestants but there's no way the backstage vibe isn't horrendous poo poo compared.

ED: Honestly I think we can credit this to Weismore and the Judges. This could have easily been a trash-tier show too, but they all seemed to approach this from a kind of .. professional standpoint, and the forced drama stuff was completely eliminated like a season or two in (the first season clearly had typical reality show tactics trying to push stupid poo poo like love triangles) after it became clear that people were, in fact, more interested in viewing people acting cool than bickering. That and the show does seem to stay on good terms with people who have been on it, giving them a bunch of opportunities after and inviting them back. Hell, a few of them really got a huge career boost like Laura.

It's just a vibe these other shows utterly lack. The set design show was loving terrible.

ED2: Actually the only drama I can think of from the first seasons was actually legitimate with that one hilarious dude that came onto the show, said how loving awesome he was, made a melted heap of melted poo poo, and rage quit before last looks.. that guy raged on the internet for months, he was a loving riot. Largely because they didn't need to manipulate that to make it a riot, guy was just bugfuck nuts. Never happened again so they clearly learned their lesson.

Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Feb 18, 2017

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Crazy Ted posted:

That...was...the...clumsiest product placement I have ever seen.

We were rolling her eyes at that and saying at least this company has been keeping the show on the air so I guess they can get their awkward product placement out of the way if it stays out of the rest of the episode.

At least it was clearly the car commercial and not some shoehorned car feature into the plot which I have actually seen before.

To be honest the cars are a really weird prize especially when there's 2 people. I totally get all the product placement for makeup and stuff because I mean come on that's what the shows about but I never understood their fascination with economy cars.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

CommaToes posted:

I think the way that it didn't fit the concept is that she looked more monsterous and the wasteland aesthetic is humans in various state of hard living. The project was gorgeous but it wasn't human.

I actually wanted to shake Glenn and say "You never heard of a Fallout tribal, really?"

Because she looked like one.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Labes for days posted:

My husband and I really saw Ben's elimination coming though, because he'd been on the bottom more than once and then his makeup was the least well-realized this week.

I like Ben but I knew he'd never make the finale. I'm glad he went out on a makeup that was "Really pretty good but just not QUIIIIITE as good" and not something lovely. Somehow there's way more pride going out in a "everybody's done really well this week" battle than there is hitting bottom.

I'm worried for Emily now though, if they drop super teams. She's a great painter but only a good molder (not exceptional) while Tyler is a great molder and, again, an acceptable painter. I think the reason their team has been dominating is they totally cover their weak spots perfectly and have the same taste in aesthetics.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

LadyPictureShow posted:

I like both Faceoff and CM, not only because it's interesting to see people make cool stuff, but a lot of the contestants seem really good-matured and helpful to one another. I haven't seen every season of Faceoff, did Syfy try to insert false drama on the show in early seasons? I feel like the most critical thing people have said about other contestants is like 'He spent too much time making a prop'

Yes; while the overall tone of the show kind of was showing through (and it's what people liked enough to make them eventually stop doing the false drama thing) they tried all kinds of ridiculous poo poo in season 1, and somewhat in season 2. By season 3 they stopped entirely.

I mean it's not NEARLY as bad as most shows; like I said, the tone of cooperation and a kind of professional attitude was there, just buried under poo poo like Syfy trying to push this whole dramatic love triangle thing in season 1. It wasn't enough to ruin the show but it was annoying as hell.

Season 3 is the one where pretty much all of that stuff stopped entirely. Most of the drama from that point comes from legitiamtely butthurt artists and people getting pissy about tolding their work sucks, which while I know they edit video, is pretty consistent with the attitudes of the people involved. My favorite was the guy who did that melty face poo poo-man, then ragequit before he could get sent home. I truly don't believe the show had anything to do with that, the guy bitched on the internet and tried to sue them for months.

LadyPictureShow posted:

My boyfriend asked me if any contestants from previous seasons ever didn't complete a look for a challenge?

Aforementioned melty face man was the first instance of this. He turned out the biggest piece of poo poo you've ever seen in your life, it looked like someone threw colored clay at a model like baseballs and went with it.

The second instance I can think of was that softcore porn girl that honestly wasn't all that bad and legitimately earned her spot in the top 4, but then had an emotional breakdown over her boyfriend or something and bailed on the whole show... which is doubly stupid because she'd probably been eliminated that night but gone out with an honorable "you didn't quite make the finale, but you did good." Instead she looked like a complete loving idiot.

If I remember right, I think she works for "Zorg" now. I'd like to see ol' Zorg again.


ED: Anyone remember which season / who that guy was that had a total freaking meltdown in episode 1? It was truly hilarious.

ED: Oh yeah, in earlier seasons, there were also several instances of major technical problems with the lab equipment loving people's stuff up and them being given a safe-pass because of it; also several instances of them using models not used to the chemicals, that started having breathing attacks 30 seconds after getting suited up; they too got given safe-passes. Basically several times an artist didn't finish during the show, but almost all of those cases were health related to the model or a legitimate problem with the lab and nobody was sent home over them. I don't think it's an issue anymore since all the models are kind of long time associates with the show and don't have problems and they've worked out just about every kink in the lab.

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Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Mywhatacleanturtle posted:

Cig's entire existence is weird to me. He SHOULD represent everything I hate about hipster culture, but somehow I find him charming as hell.

Here's the reason: I don't think Cig is a hipster. He really wants to dress that way. That's what he likes and who he is.

Hipsters do stuff like that to maintain hipster status, to our irony each other. There's no irony with Cig. He just digs it.

Labes for days posted:

I appreciated Tyler's shoutout to the Disney Gargoyles series, though. :kiddo:

I think that's what cost him. I'm kind of disappointed they sent home literally the best artist on the show because he fudged what era he was getting architecture from, likely in the name of doing a Gargoyles cartoon homage. Which he did, and it was absolutely great.

He literally lost on an A+ makeup, and I can say there are worse ways to go out. Plus there's no way he won't be back on Emily's team in the finale, so at least the audience won't miss out on cool poo poo he does.

Also Emily totally deserved the win this episode, that bird was fantastic. Frankly Cig and George were both fighting a straight vertical uphill battle with their picks of style, so major props to them. Kind of amusingly I told my girlfriend, "Man, if I was making one of these, I'd totally break out the shiny silver and chrome. It'd look awesome on this challenge," and not 30 seconds later George totally rolls with it and indeed, it looked rad.

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Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Labes for days posted:

Cig mentioned in a Facebook post that they don't have internet access

I find that kind of shocking given they don't have the house situation anymore, they aren't doing stupid challenges like the "Fool your friends and family" mess, etc. I mean do they really take their cell phones away during the entire filming and keep the prisoner from going out to lunch?

Also I don't even see the point in that anymore for those reasons too. I just don't get it.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

JuniperCake posted:

Sacrilege or not, destroying hours of someone's work without their consent is an absolute dick move. So the dude absolutely deserves to get smashed for that.

I half think "obliterating another artist's work" is probably straight up against the show rules and they just handled it like that instead of disqualifying him between episodes.

As for the drama, I blame Jill. She seems utterly obnoxious and I totally get why he wanted to jump in and fix it. If he just stayed out of it, she'd just crashed and burned and he'd probably not even been on the bottom.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

The whole "Move one guy to the other team to even things out" move was also bullshit. If you're not going to commit to the team gimmick then don't use it in the first place. :argh:

You're missing why this is happening.

Long story short I think that Sci-Fi cut their filming and production time down for these rapid fire seasons. As a result there's a lot of 2-day challenges.

When they ran a normal competition the 2-day challenges were the loving worst. It's not enough time to make the things they wanted and they turned out like pure poo poo. So what I think they've done is started this whole team thing to burn all the 2-day slots with like 5 people working on 3 things, so the quality level can actually be decent. Then when the team gimmick burns out, they can do mostly 3-day slots for the artists.

I mean I can't blame them. The "focus challenges" they tried to do to get around this were dull at best, shittastic at worst. This is a much better format to get around the reduced schedule. I mean this is all just conjecture, but I would bet :10bux: on it.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Mr. Owl posted:

What he did really offended me, and it was clear Glenn almost wanted to boot him on the spot without the deliberation. You don't just change someone's creation like that because you think you know better. That said, had he not tore her clay off, I think he would have been safe after explaining he tried to give her clear direction on how to unify the looks and she couldn't execute it.

This season is a total dud for me, and I kinda spaced on how the show had been scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of quality contestants due to last season being an all-stars one. Kinda wish they'd kept Mr. Multi-boob just to see what hosed up poo poo he'd try.

They aren't the worst artists this time out but personality wise there's not one that's interesting. They're way, way, way better than past crews but I'm not really giving more than a shrug to any of them so far.

I do hate the format. Then again I kind of hate most of the gimmicks.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

I'm glad Jill got eliminated, she was just a drag on her entire team.

My girlfriend finally cleared up who the gently caress she sounds exactly like: Bonnie from Family Guy.

Seriously it's uncanny.

Also I totally agree with everyone, this season's gimmick is just rear end. It's a one sided slaughter that shows no signs of stopping.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

He pretty much got screwed, it's really hard to think of a depiction of Winter and stick to your team's theme when everyone else is doing foliage-based sculpts. The options are A) big chunks of ice (which the other team did) or B) some sort of Xmas scene (which is going to look dumb no matter what you do) or C) an old age makeup and call it Old Man Winter (which clearly didn't occur to him). He pretty much got talked into B by one of the other guys when he got stuck and you can tell his heart wasn't in it.

He was in pretty much the same situation as the guy last season who was stuck trying to portray the Hawaiian god of the harvest.

I don't know, I think there's a lot he could have done with it. Even his idea would have worked if he'd carried it into the face and not stuck the two Christmas Trees on the head, or actually painted it so it wasn't a big glob of white. Hell even some green tones could have worked.

That dude ended up looking like a disgruntled mall elf forced to wear a stupid hat.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Is there any word if the show is coming back around for a 13th Season?

I can tell they're under constant budget slashage. From the fact they stepped back to 10 episodes (the last 6 seasons have been 14) to the fact all the stuff like immunity challenges that used to be fun (more for the cool stuff than the immunity) have been 100% eliminated from the show and all the 2-day challenges that they need to put multiple people on so the product isn't poo poo, it seems as if they loose a few more bucks every season.

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Goddamit Jill, this is why you got picked last

The fact she has the voice of Bonnie from Family Guy doesn't help

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Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

So is anyone even watching this show any more?? :v:

The latest episode was a 'champions' challenge with 4 previous Face Off winners but the result was still pretty meh. They're still having to cobble together makeups from premade prosthetics so the contest pretty much comes down to a speed painting challenge which just isn't that interesting. Plus some of my favourite contestants like Cig and George just didn't adapt to this format and got eliminated immediately and that sucks.

You should see how bad the newbies did in episode 7.

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