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Should it be legal for other people to assault you if they disagree with you?
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Yes 183 49.06%
No 190 50.94%
Total: 328 votes
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Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Pseudo-God posted:

No, I just have higher principles than you it seems. You have worked yourself up to believe that all your enemies are irredeemably evil so it's ok to attack them wherever you find them, not realizing that over time, the circle of enemies expands more to include first Nazis, the Nationalists, then centrists, then anyone who defends these people. It is possible to have universal principles that apply to people you find reprehensible, because ultimately THEY PROTECT YOU when then the other side gets power.

Also, I find it very strange how you muster up the nerve to attribute intent to people you debate with, especially since you know nothing about me. As someone whose people have been the subject of ethnic cleansing and genocide, and who experienced this first hand in living memory, I am especially sensitive to angry mobs and nationalist hatred (1999 Kosovo War). Finally, since you have branded me sympathetic to Nazis, how far do you think I am removed from being the actual target of these beatings? How much more do I have to say before I am marked for being a Nazi myself?

How much do you honestly think universal principles will protect you when you're not the one in power?

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Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Pseudo-God posted:

So you can clearly see, as I can, that our system is heading into a dangerous point where citizens will start turning on each other at some point in the near future. Unlike you, I see the act of punching people in the streets, no matter how reprehensible their views, is only going to accelerate this process. If people start getting in their heads that physically fighting their opponents is ok, it will only make things worse and lead to the collapse faster.

If it takes the destruction of an ossified political culture that has placed so much wealth in the hands of a few, so be it.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
If you're unwilling to fight for your ideology you never really held to it in the first place.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
I've not seen a good example of how principle is capable of protecting people from nazis, but hey, that's just me.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
Personally I think normalization of political violence is inevitable. It's time we as leftists took advantage of America's gun laws, bought some handguns and rifles, got some time at the range.

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