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Should it be legal for other people to assault you if they disagree with you?
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Yes 183 49.06%
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Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
It should not be legal to punch people because you dislike them, no.

It is also a very good thing that Richard Spencer was punched, twice, and also spit on, and is currently fearful to go outside, because he inspires groups of people to do things like doxx and threaten minorities, engages in such activities himself, wants to enact ethnic cleansing in our country, and says things like this regularly:

https://twitter.com/BlackAutonomist/status/822818627523117056

Ideally that won't be the last time he gets punched.

Edit: As an irrelevant but highly-entertaining bonus, here's another story about Nazis getting beat up.

https://twitter.com/mlowdi/status/822764458758049795

Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 13:23 on Jan 22, 2017

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Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Frogfingers posted:

Reminder: The punch Richard Spencer took for being a nazi was not caught on camera. He was punched for talking about memes in real life like it was 2005 or something.

I'm pretty sure both punches happened on account of him being Richard Spencer, Actual Nazi, it's just the one came while he was talking about Pepe.

Agnosticnixie posted:

I think you're confused OP. Richard Spencer didn't get punched, which is easily proven by the fact that it's the lügenpresse who started reporting on it first. Therefore it's a lie and he is fine and unpunched.

People should keep unpunching him the same way as the 20th tbqh.

He was given an alt-hug. It was a rather touching display, really, crossing the political spectrum in a manner that should have bipartisan support.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
A reminder, it wasn't that long ago that Neo-Nazis, in defense of Richard Spencer getting flak for being a genocidal fuckwit, were doxxing and threatening Jewish people in his hometown, urging their supporters to "take action" against them, and planning an armed march with "high-powered rifles" in this town, in protest of Jews. Literally, in their own words, their march was "against Jews", as well as Jewish businesses and anyone who allied themselves with Jews. Word got out, a quite sizable counter-protest was formed, and when the day of the march came, none of the Nazis dared show their faces.

While you can debate how much of this was due to the resistance they would face and how much is simply the Nazis in question being pathetic and incapable of organizing effectively (they're already promising to try again at a later date), I think this incident is further evidence in favor of punching Nazis. These assholes want to strut through the streets, sowing terror and doing as they please, threatening and possibly even injuring or killing people. And then, eventually, the whole ethnic cleansing thing and all that. And it's not like there aren't numerous examples, some quite recent, of what happens when Neo-Nazis aren't stopped before they start to insert themselves into society and push people around. (Spoilers: The most effective resistance to them nearly always involved beating their asses.) Make them afraid now, before they start shooting people. (Well, more people; they've already shot at least one person, who's in critical condition last I heard, since the inauguration.)

It's not like Spencer's innocent but for all the genocidal rhetoric, either; he wasn't directly involved in the above armed march against Jews, he did help publicly spread the name and information of the primary target of the harassment and doxxing campaign. Also he's like the number one idol of Steve Bannon, Breitbart owner and Neo-Nazi who is now our new President's right-hand man, writing his speeches and advising his every move. He's openly hurting people directly as well as indirectly already, and wants to take things even further; lest anyone forget, his goal is, in his own words, ethnic cleansing of at least part of the US to form a "white ethno-state", and he's written about how we should be debating the best ways to genocide black people. Anything you do to Richard Spencer should be considered self-defense and defense of others, and also outright heroic.

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
A Thesis On And Defense Of Punching Nazis In Three Tweets:

https://twitter.com/libcomorg/status/823650250036547584
https://twitter.com/ArtDifficulty/status/823652026450137088
https://twitter.com/guanoman/status/823602952782938113

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

El Pollo Blanco posted:

I would suggest reading all of King's letter from birmingham jail, if you haven't already done so, as should everyone else reading this dumpster fire thread.

Here's a link, for everyone's convenience.

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Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

FreeKillB posted:

Republicans are bad, yes, and they are chipping away at the progress we've made towards being a free and open society. However, most Republican voters wouldn't say they are in favor of vote suppression, they would say they're against voter fraud. This makes them misguided, not monsters.

As someone who's talked with a lot of Republicans, much of the time it's an excuse. Despite complaining about political correctness, they use a lot of euphemisms and dog whistles to hide what they really mean. A lot are A-OK with black people not voting. Same reason there's so much concern over the "inner cities".

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