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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

After Enoch was exposed, he went back on The Daily Shoah to beg forgiveness for concealing his 1/4 Jewish wife - and admitted that he'd have to leave when the white ethnostate is founded. :lol:


I got blocked by Milo on twitter after arguing with him about Orwell being a socialist. He posts exactly like every other boring right wing teenager, even calling himself a "nuanced mind." Now that he's banned it's impossible to distinguish his parachute account from any of his fans.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q367WZO2ULw

E:
https://twitter.com/vesaldi/status/823635050277310465

first lol at the twitter, second i find it funny that as much as they poo poo on the left for being oversensitive babies(and sadly some are,though thats for the liberal tears thread) they are just as much if not bigger oversensitive babies who cry and scream/rant/threaten whenever someone doesnt think like they do. and yeah, orwell was a socialist though he became hated communism/stalinism.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

They spend half their free time fantasizing about a race war when they're not jerking off to video game porn, then one of 'em gets punched in the ear and they scream bloody murder.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

They spend half their free time fantasizing about a race war when they're not jerking off to video game porn, then one of 'em gets punched in the ear and they scream bloody murder.

yeah but half of these assfucks wouldnt even survive the systems they jerk off too.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Dapper_Swindler posted:

yeah but half of these assfucks wouldnt even survive the systems they jerk off too.

Probably not, but what they really crave is the sense of dignity that comes from being higher up on a formal hierarchy. The vast majority of southern whites antebellum were dirt poor subsistence farmers, but almost all of them believed in the slaveocracy. Just the fact that they were white gave them a sense of superiority, even if they were at risk of dying from one bad harvest.

tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



Montasque posted:

I'm finding some interesting things about these characters... Many seem to be following this path:

PUA community ->MRA->Gamergate->Alt right

Roosh is now rebranding as an alt-righter. I bet Mystery has a 5 foot tall MAGA top hat.

Don't forget that the MRAs' basic conceptions of "hypergamy" and rotating polyandry ("cock carousel") originally came from the white supremacist writer F. Roger Devlin in his essay "Sexual Utopia in Power" that ran back in 2006 in the racial pseudoscience journal The Occidental Quarterly. (The ideas had been kicking around in some form before then, of course, but Devlin was the one who formulated it into a unified credo and vocabulary.) Then Roissy picked it up somewhat later (maybe about a year later?) and spread it into the PUA movement.

I think that that was when PUA really started merging with MRA ... my vague recollection is that before that, the PUAs would generally pay lip service to treating women respectfully to their faces while scheming behind women's backs to get sex, but once they had Devlin's mental framework and vocabulary they kind of took it up as an excuse for why their PUA poo poo wasn't always working. Since it was Devlin writing in The Occidental Quarterly, the whole framework came with a heaping helping of white nationalism stirred in from the beginning.

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


I find it hell of funny that the guy doesn't even know why Mandela was jailed, let alone the kind of thing he would have done in that situation

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Weeping Wound posted:

I find it hell of funny that the guy doesn't even know why Mandela was jailed, let alone the kind of thing he would have done in that situation

If you confronted him on that he'd say some dumb poo poo like "Mandela was an ethno-nationalist, like me."

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Weeping Wound posted:

is he even important enough to mention?

he ran to the Ukraine and hasn't looked back, except to tweet

also one of the five people on Earth to still have a LiveJournal lmbo

considering the guy is getting together and organizing fellow shitheads there, absolutely

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

Race Realists posted:

considering the guy is getting together and organizing fellow shitheads there, absolutely

is he? is he actually doing some work for the first time in his life

edit: mistaken, it was Belarus

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Weeping Wound posted:

is he? is he actually doing some work for the first time in his life

edit: mistaken, it was Belarus

I could've sworn weev was trying to join Pravi Sektor.

Slow-Scan Shep
Jul 11, 2001

weev is important because he used to have leftist cred up until halfway through his prison term and many civil libertarians were still returning his calls afterwards

he pioneered living as a troll

on that note the list is also missing mencius moldbug and justine tunney

Lindsey O. Graham
Dec 31, 2016

"We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term."

- The Chief

Race Realists posted:

https://twitter.com/ChateauEmissary/status/823768306142167040

https://twitter.com/sbpdl/status/823707950632079360

https://twitter.com/sbpdl/status/823697302971908096

this guy named himself after the main character in the Death Wish films (a series of 80's Action B-Movies), and has made several books off of poorly researched Crime Statistics for several years, detailing what he calls the collapse of "White Civilization"

im going to start posting some poo poo


GET READY :getin:

I'm ready!!!

Negative_Kittens
Apr 8, 2008

[ASK] me about multiple personality disorders


The Dark Enlightenment, or NRx: the hydra that fused techno-libertarianism, corporate monarchy, and "human biodiversity" which is just a clever way of saying "race realist" which is just dog-whistle for white-supremacy and cherry-picked stats.

This group of people were propelled to internet stardom through a combination of an insufferable sperglord, Mencius Moldbug, posting on Eliezer Yudkowsky's LessWrong blog, and his followers making rational commentary impossible. Yudkowsky rejected Moldbug's philosophy, so Moldbug and his NRx follwers created MoreRight as a response. He believes media and education are a vast new cultural-communistic church:
"And the left is the party of the educational organs, at whose head is the press and universities. This is our 20th-century version of the established church. Here at UR, we sometimes call it the Cathedral - although it is essential to note that, unlike an ordinary organization, it has no central administrator. No, this will not make it easier to deal with."

He also believes that corporations should rule like countries or city-states like something out of Robocop or Judge Dredd:
"To a neocameralist, a state is a business which owns a country. A state should be managed, like any other large business, by dividing logical ownership into negotiable shares, each of which yields a precise fraction of the state’s profit. (A well-run state is very profitable.) Each share has one vote, and the shareholders elect a board, which hires and fires managers.
This business’s customers are its residents. A profitably-managed neocameralist state will, like any business, serve its customers efficiently and effectively. Misgovernment equals mismanagement."

Other notables include Nick Land:
"Union victory determined that the emancipatory sense of liberty would prevail, not only in America, but throughout the world, and the eventual reign of the Cathedral was assured. Nevertheless, the crushing of American’s second war of secession made a mockery of the first. If the institution of slavery de-legitimated a war of independence, what survived of 1776? The moral coherence of the Union cause required that the founders were reconceived as politically illegitimate white patriarchal slave-owners, and American history combusted in progressive education and the culture wars."

and Michael Anissimov:
"1. People are not equal. They never will be. We reject equality in all its forms.
2. Right is right and left is wrong.
3. Hierarchy is basically a good idea.
4. Traditional sex roles are basically a good idea.
5. Libertarianism is retarded.
6. Democracy is irredeemably flawed and we need to do away with it."

These people and their early 2000's whinging on blogs eventually coalesced the disparate movements in the right wing and tied them together in a neat little bow. Now we call it the Alt-Right/New-Right, but the underpinnings of the DE legitimately had a hand in creating the environment we have today amongst the right-wing.

Negative_Kittens has issued a correction as of 07:53 on Jan 25, 2017

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
The future is scary. But also exciting and interesting. Its hard to imagine that this all isn't some sci fi book.

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer
It would work better as a sci fi book if all the antagonists weren't pissbabies that can't even take a single punch without crying.

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011

"a bunch of idiots took over the government and ruined everything"

"how"

"everyone else was even dumber"

it's not that great of a narrative, but it's the one we have to work with

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

tacodaemon posted:

Don't forget that the MRAs' basic conceptions of "hypergamy" and rotating polyandry ("cock carousel") originally came from the white supremacist writer F. Roger Devlin in his essay "Sexual Utopia in Power" that ran back in 2006 in the racial pseudoscience journal The Occidental Quarterly. (The ideas had been kicking around in some form before then, of course, but Devlin was the one who formulated it into a unified credo and vocabulary.) Then Roissy picked it up somewhat later (maybe about a year later?) and spread it into the PUA movement.

I think that that was when PUA really started merging with MRA ... my vague recollection is that before that, the PUAs would generally pay lip service to treating women respectfully to their faces while scheming behind women's backs to get sex, but once they had Devlin's mental framework and vocabulary they kind of took it up as an excuse for why their PUA poo poo wasn't always working. Since it was Devlin writing in The Occidental Quarterly, the whole framework came with a heaping helping of white nationalism stirred in from the beginning.

Interesting stuff... I know very little about the PUA community outside of the book THE GAME.

I think the one constant is that a segment of male Gen Xers and Millennials were suffering a crisis of masculinity. At first they were PUA, then MRA, now Alt-Right. Always chasing that which will make them feel like big manly men.

Mike Cernovich is absolutely one of these people. The guy has leached off of women his entire life, while trying to assert himself as some paragon of manly virtue.

Fight Club was prophetic...

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.
Wrong thread

Fidel Castronaut has issued a correction as of 08:53 on Jan 25, 2017

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven
Here's some breaking New-Right News:


Sheila Gunn Reid is a reporter for Rebel Media, those fine folks from Canada who also employee Gavin McInnes and Lauren Southern.

Sheila decided to go to the Women's March in Edmonton, I'm sure she went there with honourable journalistic intentions, and not to 'trigger SJW meltdown.'



See the guy pictured above? Sheila claims he punched her in the face at the Women's March.

Here's the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1eb9vQ1vAk

The story then gets worse for the small man in the green army jacket. /pol/ goes internet justice squad, and doxxes the guy, and the cops have charged him with assault and uttering threats:

http://www.edmontonpolice.ca/News/MediaReleases/assaultutterthreatcharge.aspx

Now Rebel Media founder Ezra Levant is trying to make this into a conspiracy story by accusing The Canadian Press of burying photos and video of the assault.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe

Montasque posted:

Now Rebel Media founder Ezra Levant is trying to make this into a conspiracy story by accusing The Canadian Press of burying photos and video of the assault.

canadian news media loves to bury stories, imo its more corrupt and bad than american msm (per capita)

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Montasque posted:

I think the one constant is that a segment of male Gen Xers and Millennials were suffering a crisis of masculinity. At first they were PUA, then MRA, now Alt-Right. Always chasing that which will make them feel like big manly men.

Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll treat Brocialism seriously.

Not any of the "thought leaders," obviously since they're in it for the grift.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Baloogan posted:

The future is scary. But also exciting and interesting. Its hard to imagine that this all isn't some sci fi book.

oh sure it is exciting as long you're not one of the groups they target

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

papa_november posted:

weev is important because he used to have leftist cred up until halfway through his prison term and many civil libertarians were still returning his calls afterwards

he pioneered living as a troll

on that note the list is also missing mencius moldbug and justine tunney

nah, you're right, he is important

just because I don't think highly of him doesn't mean he shouldn't be included

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
ben shaprio is like 4' tall

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014



look, if were gonna be collapsing, we might as well have Weimer republic style street brawls between commies and nazis

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

consumed by normies posted:

look, if were gonna be collapsing, we might as well have Weimer republic style street brawls between commies and nazis

None of the alt-right omega males have the constitution for a slugfest. They're just going to start open carrying at their events, because they'd rather kill someone than risk being humiliated.

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

can tell that is a mattress on the floor.

tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



Pener Kropoopkin posted:

None of the alt-right omega males have the constitution for a slugfest. They're just going to start open carrying at their events, because they'd rather kill someone than risk being humiliated.

i love the idea that these dipshits didnt notice that they were taking their internet tough guy bullshit outside the internet and into the big big world where other people could see them

i love it, love it, love it

tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



somebody in another thread pointed out that until recently anyone in the US who professed to be a neo-nazi was probably a skinhead or punk who would have irl experience street fighting and would have quickly learned what situations were likely to involve physical confrontation and how to either avoid or prepare for such situations

but now we have internet tough guys whose most recent physical confrontation was with an elementary school bully throwing sand at them at the playground

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

None of the alt-right omega males have the constitution for a slugfest. They're just going to start open carrying at their events, because they'd rather kill someone than risk being humiliated.

yeah i guess america cant really handle street fight cus theyd just immediately turn into open gun battles

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

consumed by normies posted:

yeah i guess america cant really handle street fight cus theyd just immediately turn into open gun battles

It could also end up like those scenes from Troy where both sides face off against each other, but just send out their champions to settle the score. Not likely at all, but if anybody would try to emulate that kind of honor culture it'd be these dorks.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

consumed by normies posted:

look, if were gonna be collapsing, we might as well have Weimer republic style street brawls between commies and nazis

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
I'm surprised by the amount of Brits and Canadians.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
theres actually alot of political oppression up here that no one is impolite enough to talk about

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
so canadians who care about politics generally think about america :3:

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

tacodaemon posted:

i love the idea that these dipshits didnt notice that they were taking their internet tough guy bullshit outside the internet and into the big big world where other people could see them

i love it, love it, love it

"If the alt-right were in power, we would all have arrived here via magnetic levitation trains," he said. "We would have passed by great forests and beautiful images of blond women in a wheat field with their hands, running them through the wheat. It would be a wonderful sight."
- Richard Spencer

Richard Spencer is a new England trust fund kid who watched too much anime. He tried to make memes real and got punched in the head for it.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

Baloogan posted:

theres actually alot of political oppression up here that no one is impolite enough to talk about
so how about that maple syrup cartel and the fact that new england is poised to fuckin pwn quebec in production

eh

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The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.


Montasque posted:

"If the alt-right were in power, we would all have arrived here via magnetic levitation trains," he said. "We would have passed by great forests and beautiful images of blond women in a wheat field with their hands, running them through the wheat. It would be a wonderful sight."
- Richard Spencer

Richard Spencer is a new England trust fund kid who watched too much anime. He tried to make memes real and got punched in the head for it.

Turns out he just wants to turn America into one big ad for organic muesli

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