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paradoxGentleman posted:I'm always down for chuds getting owned, don't get me wrong, but... something about the puncher getting angry over being called the N word makes me squint my eyes. Go on
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Dec 30, 2020 21:31
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Spergin Morlock posted:in the original vid you can see his extremely frustrated face near the end when he turns and walks away from the racist guy and in the general direction of the security camera. right when the lady says "I don't blame you dude" Yeah there are a lot of context clues - being called a racial slur repeatedly by an obviously white man - Smashed Mouth there asking him repeatedly where he's from, an accusation commonly leveled at non-white people - he asked the guy if he was going to hit him with the tea can, obviously understanding he was antagonizing him into a violent reaction - the woman behind the camera cheering the black guy and having the foresight to understand that the event was worth filming Also the whole thing about the guy being pretty plainly a black man even if his skin wasn't coal dark
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Dec 30, 2020 23:39
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He asked him to smack him and he got smacked. The only thing that would have made it better is if he hadn't dropped it on that little flip move he tried to do Appropriate that the guy who got hit was the only one not wearing a mask, too
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paradoxGentleman posted:I'm going to go out on a limb and say that this was written by actually written by a guy who doesn't talk to women much. That sort of woman definitely exists but they're not numerous
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SirSamVimes posted:Those didn't happen in this decade though. No but the tea party swept in in 2010.
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Dec 31, 2020 07:26
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Containment, wasn't it? Since the topic kept coming up endlessly everywhere in every forum and was constantly derailing everything. The alternative would have been to ban anyone who couldn't leave it alone but that would have eliminated about a third of the goon community. Basically this. The fire was burning miles away but the smoke still crept in here, so to speak. Nowhere that didn't explicitly and unequivocally ban discussion of it very early on was untouched by it. The degree to which it may or may not have influenced national elections in any given place in the world is overstated, but anywhere with even a whiff of video games discussion had some talk about GG happening.
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Jan 1, 2021 02:39
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Hodgepodge posted:its seen as a cultural watershed by the right, way more than the left. most of them probably think it was whatever gamegaters tell them it was about, and have no idea that no one else was sure what they were on about except that it was all hateful drama It validated a number of bugbears common to the right wing psyche, namely 1) the promiscuous Modern Woman who uses her wiles to cheat her way to success; 2) the fundamental mistrust of media authority to validate and launder cultural objects by raising mediocre work to high artistic praise; 3) a man wounded, cuckolded because he lacked the material advantages afforded by being able to provide specific benefit to the career advancement of (1); 4) an ethics and morality play which put the entire world* at stake, in which they could participate and foster the dramatic tension *Video games
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Speaking of internet atheists: I am thinking about making a thread to discuss the movement and how it and the larger "skeptic" movement seem to have collapsed utterly in the last couple of years. There was a time where Dawkins was a genuinely respected science writer, and now, well, https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1341801500583088128?s=20 Internet atheism composed a big part of my early (2002-ish) internet experience, and I think that's probably true for many of you as well. During its prime, Dawkins formed the intellectual fulcrum of the whole thing, with several other authors orbiting his star (Harris, Dennett, Shermer, etc.), Penn and Teller's Bullshit! bringing up the broader entertainment front, and a growing antemedia of podcasts like Skeptic's Guide to the Universe while the front lines of the antireligious culture war were represented on forums like SA, Reddit, and whatever handful of vocal New Atheist guys inhabited every video game board on the internet. It really was right around the time of Elevatorgate (2013-2014?) that the whole thing seems to have splintered. I feel like I haven't seen a fraction of the number of people I used to see openly identifying as a capital-A Atheist as I used to, and the sphere of authors seems to get a lot less representation, possibly because they've either completely lost the plot like Dawkins or have simply shifted gears into the podcast arena like Sam Harris, but I remember a time when one of their tentpole books came out that it was something of an event. I was convinced that my shiny mirrored first printing copy of The God Delusion would be worth something someday, and now I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who would even admit to owning a copy, let alone taking it seriously as a thought-provoking work of philosophical argument. It's really quite a bizarre phenomenon, because by all rights a robust skeptic movement should be having its time in the sun right now, given how absolutely and painfully loving stupid everything has become. Or maybe it's that a skeptic movement of the sort that existed in 2010 or so could only have had prominence against the relative tranquility of the culture as compared to now, I'm not sure. I think it could be an interesting thing to give some kind of post-mortem to, since I'm sure that if you're a goon of late-20's-mid-30's age there's a good chance you were a New Atheist at some point, because it was rampant on these forums for a period
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Jan 1, 2021 19:58
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VinylonUnderground posted:It's less crap like "elevatorgate" and more that the anglosphere lost it's goddamn mind after 9/11 and 7/11. There was a divide between the anti-war left and the pro-war right, with the pro-war right using a lot of anti-islamic messaging coded as atheist language. Since new atheism was very much a privileged white male movement, it already had a lot of blindspots so it nestled in quite comfortably with the broader right wing culture in the US and UK. The New Atheists really rose to prominence after 9/11. "Elevatorgate" marks the decline of the New Atheist movement, broadly speaking, but not the sole cause of it. New Atheists that I encountered had a pretty broad political spectrum, at least at first - they were how I discovered the Communist Manifesto as a teenager, as well as postwar Secular Humanist socialist writers; in fact, I remember being 15 and buying the Communist Manifesto and Smith's Atheism: The Case Against God on the same day. There were plenty of people who were either Atheist Communists or Communist Atheists, depending on which half of that equation motivated them more. Anti-Islam sentiment was rampant among all of them, but it was also rampant among everybody in the wake of 9/11. There were also plenty of libertarian sorts, since libertarianism was at the time the lone refuge for the politically right-wing but socially liberal, but broad strokes fascistic right attitudes were so lockstep that being at all liberal made you stand out against the background radiation of This Is Are Country. This is all from a US perspective, obviously. If anything the political breakdown happened as the war started to sour in peoples' minds and the country generally started to slide back toward the political middle and the libertarians and the left-wing people were no longer broadly on "the same side" as skewed by the preponderance of the neoconservative zeitgeist. But it took a long time for those divisions to properly break down, at least close to a decade (roughly over the course of Obama's presidency in my estimation)
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The importance of Elevatorgate is that it basically represented a real eruption of attitudes that had been fomenting among the movement for some time, namely: 1) that New Atheism had a serious Boy's Club problem, something hotly contested exclusively by men, and that female members were often harassed online, dismissed in person, and abused at conventions; 2) that up until then one of the major foils against American Christianity had been the fundamental hypocrisy of its major representatives, which butts up against some difficulty when the major atheist proselytizers are also hypocrites - you can't effectively criticize the Catholic Church for covering up abuse when you're refusing to dissociate from serial rapist Michael Shermer and continuing to host him as a guest speaker when his entire M.O. was to find victims at conventions; 3) that many of the New Atheists only objected to Christianity on the basis that they don't like the God part but are completely cool with the rest of it. Dawkins is the prime example here, since in most respects he's as much an Anglican as he ever was, he just doesn't like the part about appealing to Divinity to explain biology; 4) pursuant to (1) that women, women's rights, and especially Muslim women's rights, are only of concern to many New Atheists when they can be used against feminists. Dawkins' "Dear Muslima" letter is a loving legendary piece of posting for that reason, because the tone of it was that the American woman doth protest too much for saying that she's uncomfortable when she's cornered by a man on an enclosed elevator, since she isn't having her genitals mutilated or whatever dumb point he was trying to make. For someone who had up to that point been considered a talented and thoughtful writer he managed to produce something so unbelievably distasteful to basically everybody that it really did create an unfixable crack in the skeptisphere. Imbued as it was with such an immeasurable amount of smarm, cynical concern trolling and callous dismissal of a completely reasonable request on the part of Rebecca Watson, Dawkins managed to do in one post what a legion of internet trolls couldn't if they were trying.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Dear Muslima, Holy moly it's actually worse than I remembered. Amazing little detail that he stylized it as Skep"chick" instead of "Skepchick." I also wonder if he thinks the invite was literally just for coffee, because he is the least subtle person on Earth and doesn't understand entendre. Particularly the line about "of course he didn't lay a finger on her," which is very telling. He perfectly understands the risk factor involved that the man didn't hurt her, but he could have. He's so incredibly contemptuous of women it just oozes out of the thing.
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I like looking at the OP as a snapshot of the way things were in the aftermath of the 2016 election. These guys felt a lot more threatening at the time.
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