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1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lindsey O. Graham posted:

If I respected myself I'd be Brutus. Instead:


good god lindsey, even after he leaked your cell phone number to the world?

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1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
at least one media outfit still has Milo's back

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-milo-was-sexually-abused-not-an-abuser/

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
if that's his house that guy has a lot of action figures in a glass case

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Grondoth posted:

Should I buy a halberd or not, this is important

Edit: I already have a pollaxe

sword and board is the way of things in close order street fuckery

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
if they're just taking in whoever i'd like to become swedish too

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Agag posted:

I'm the plywood shield.

wanna break that shield wall

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Admiral Ray posted:

i don't know that canada has any best

the best drunks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUFKs9TA4BQ

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

A Pale Horse posted:

There's nothing more I'd love to see than for two gay Spartan teenagers to slaughter the Sparta loving MAGACHUDS for sport and then make out over their steaming entrails. Like do all these Sparta lovers know that it was a society built on gay soldiery and white slavery?

not gay, pederastic. it was a teenager (as in 12 or 13) and one or several older men who mentored the boy in war and politics, with the expectation of the minor sexually gratifying the elder(s). there was also an element of wifeswapping between the married adult men, and deliberate cuckoldry in the interest of breeding the best available female stock with the best male stock to create through eugenics the best possible next generation of spartiate, just as they'd deliberately breed meaner dogs or stronger oxen. they used the same controlled breeding theories as part of the justification for the krypteia, which among other things took the form of young Spartans sneaking into the outskirts of agricultural slave settlements and to murder the strongest and most prominent slaves, to take anyone from those communities who might pose a potential security risk, and keep them from producing more of the same in the slave population. only those who participated in that element of the krypteia as boys had any chance achieving high rank in spartan military society

don't conflate what the Spartans did with anything resembling modern social mores. and for god's sake don't lionize them as 'real badass gays' to juxtapose with the incel legions and MAGA chuds. they were human monsters, who ruled a regime of barely comprehensible cruelty and savagery.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
i'll give the Sacred Band this, it was composed of 150 pairs of adult male lovers, who probably had a bit of an age difference but were not quite the pederastic apprenticeship thing the Spartans did as a matter of course. it wasn't really them who beat the spartans, though they were the elite corps in the Theban line at the battle of Leuctra. the Band was only ever 300 guys, in a formation of 6k+ hoplites that day. What really won itt for the Thebans was two things: the capacity of their commander and officers to formulate truly novel battle tactics. it's hard to explain without diagrams, this one's from wikipedia

the top picture is how hoplite warfare was always supposed to go, with the red blocks being the acknowledged best unit in the phalanx, the Spartiate elite or the Sacred Band. the two blocks, usually 4 or 8 men deep on either side at the start of the fight, stomp across an open field, clash together and shove at each other with shields/stab with spears till one side breaks. The point of putting the elite unit at one end of this line was to do the most possible to ensure at least one flank of the other side caved.

what the Thebans under Epaminondas did at Leuctra is what's pictured in the lower diagram. they arranged themselves in a staggered line separated by gaps in the formation, with a double-depth block supporting the elite unit to make double sure they would hold and overcome. The Spartans fought on land using a set of ingrained traditions with no room or even real concept of innovation. the solid block was what they'd always done. so they stomped over, met the staggered line, and their solid block stretched and distorted to come to grips with the Thebans. Epaminondas had lighter troops and cavalry ready to rush wherever those distortions critically weakened the Spartan line, wherever the overall density of their troops thinned to the point that only a couple guys stood in ranks, easily bowled over by charging horses and stabbed through the eyeholes of their fancy bronze helmets by dudes armed with javelins and knives

Then several years later the Sacred Band was slaughtered to the last man by a professionalized army from what amounted to Greece's West Virginia commanded by aggressively bisexual Philip II of Macedon, with his borderline asexual son Alexander heading the royal cavalry in his first field command, at the Battle of Chaeronea. the day was made either more bitter or more sweet, depending on your point of view, because Philip defeated the Thebans using Epaminondas's own tactics, learned when he was yielded by his father's weak, poor monarchy as a hostage of Thebes and kept in Epaminondas's own household. Alexander went on to use the same basic battleplan that beat the Spartans to win his third and final field battle against the armies of the Persian Empire under Darius III during the Mesopotamian phase of his eastern conquests, at the battle of Gaugamela, which you can go watch a representation of in Oliver Stone's Alexander on Netflix right now if you care to.

point being, in ancient Greek history, gays beat pederasts, bis beat gays, and volcels conquer the world

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Azathoth posted:

I read an article a while back about how this kind of grift killed the Tea Party as an organized movement that people rallied behind. It apparently has degenerated into a never-ending stream of "Donate $20 now to stop Obama from implementing Sharia law in your home town!!!" emails from Super PACs that don't actually do much political action.

naturalists refer to this as 'parasite load'

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Make Mongolia Great Again

Darkman Fanpage posted:

May the Great Blue Sky stretch across all the lands and its people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rmo3fKeveo

till every city is a field of grass

and every king's skull lies trampled by hooves

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Darkman Fanpage posted:

my man look like destro

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The French should have ruled the world, not the English :qq:

yes, they should've

god drat perfidious Albion, and Nelson's wretched shade

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Jose posted:

napoleon hosed up like a bunch of people thinking he could conquer russia. russia is a poo poo hole that you shouldn't bother conquering even before the fact the weather kills everyone

he did pretty well through the autumn of 1812. if he'd held to his original plan of campaign, and stopped at the eastern Polish frontier before winter set in, he could've kept on rolling forward in the spring of 1813 and taken Moscow on his own terms. but nappy b was used to campaigning in the geographically dense environments of italy, germany and austria, where he'd always won wars by maneuvering for advantage before forcing sharp, decisive battles, followed by occupying the other side's capital. That had always been sufficient to put down the Austrians, for example. but he hadn't managed to force one of those decisive battles on the Russians, the closest he got was Borodino in September 1812 and that was just a huge pile of slaughter for both sides, one of only a handful of fields that ever really managed to rattle napoleon personally. they pushed on into the Russian interior to try to force a final confrontation, then just to secure the supplies and shelter of Moscow as the season deepened, then enterprising Russians set the place on fire with the French et. al. already present, to deny them the use of the city's stores and amenities. and that was point where the napoleonic wave broke and rolled back, leaving hundreds of thousands of frost-bitten, starving wretches in its wake.

there's a lot more to it, but basically if napoleon had stuck to the plan he'd had at the outset, of gradually rolling east through the Russian Empire as weather and logistics allowed, he probably could've pulled it off. he made a lot of mistakes though, several of which transgressed his own personal maxims of war, which the cold and the sheer open spaces of Russia exacerbated terribly

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
spencer's got an ice cube's chance in hell in that matchup

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pener Kropoopkin posted:



It's got it all, folks

garrison probably honestly thinks the cops consistently side with the antifas against the proud boys and pepes too

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
it's cool that the fascist incels idolize a society of fascist pederasts

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Party Boat posted:

I know it's in Othello, can't remember if Chaucer used it as well but probably, dude was bawdy as hell

Making rabbit ears behind someone's head supposedly started as giving them a cuckold's horns

oh yeah, there's an instance of the middle english version of cuckold in the CT, couldn't tell you which tale off the top of my head tho

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Azathoth posted:

i'm assuming that he has a very creative (read: offensive) definition of "human"

the only humans are mongols

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Venom Snake posted:

Cross post from the Trump thread about the church I go to:


Richard Spencer has an office in Alexandria

lol i dunno what bible your pastor's reading but your god is extremely okay with racial oppression, slavery and ethnocracy

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

what kind of fuckin turd steals valor from the roman legions

WHO WAS YOUR COMMANDING CENTURION

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
i've always thought the roman tunic situation + sandals was the ideal urban wear anywhere south of boston tbh

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Baloogan posted:

ya, like, no modern day materials, id like the alloys to be accurate too. Dyes as accurate as possible, and no 'generic roman costume' i want it period accurate

you're gonna need access to a water-powered steel mill working central european iron if you want a legit recreation of anything legionary during the late Republic/high Imperial then

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

consumed by normies posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/07/opinion/sunday/what-to-do-with-the-swastika-in-the-attic.html

person feels guilty about having a nazi flag... that their grandfather captured from adolf hitlers own home and his entire unit signed, and has to get rid of it. what

this motherfucker has a flag taken from the Berghof by their own grandfather and they haven't displayed it with sigs showing proudly behind a glass case with a nice brass plaque? the gently caress is wrong with america

1994 Toyota Celica has issued a correction as of 13:40 on Jul 9, 2017

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Baloogan posted:

and a nazi flag literally captured in battle, signed by US troops is p much the most anti-fascist thing on the planet

it wasn't taken in battle, the Berghof wasn't occupied until after Berlin fell

taken as plunder by a victorious army though, certainly

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Baloogan posted:

yeah Contact, advanced alien cultures trying to uplift the states
its obvious because hes a canadian american

is there an alien faction in the Culture novels that actively tries to destroy and devolve civilizations

that's what cruz is

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

i thought they were 'just' hegemonizing religious imperialist

the only one of these novels i ever read was consider phlebas, and that was a long time ago

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Badger of Basra posted:

what is this even supposed to mean

he's referencing how many of the scholars initially associated with the 9th century intellectual renaissance of the first Caliphate, promulgated by Haroun al-Rashid, were mathematicians and litterateurs from the caliphate's Persian and Afghan territories, invited to the capital by the Caliph rather than ethnic Arabs from the imperial heartlands

Lost Enlightenment is a decent pop history book on the subject

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

lancemantis posted:

So our new country is feudal japan for white people

so how do they determine who's a samurai, who's a peasant, who's forced into highly ritualized prostitution etc.?

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
Rich Evans fucks Jay and the bald guy what are you talking about

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

rudatron posted:

that was indians, arabs invented algebra

there's clay work tablets from Babylon circa 1600 BCE inscribed with algebraic formulas

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
i don't make the cuneiform, i just study it

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
it's even later than that, the first major Saxon inroads didn't begin until after the last imperial forces withdrew from Britain in 410. the saxons start showing up in the 5th century, partly due to displacement from their original territories on continental Europe by waves of other migrating groups from the East, all ultimately spurred on by the advancing Huns

if PJW were really about ethnicities retaining their birthrights or w/e he'd want all Anglo-Saxons to emigrate back to Germany or the Netherlands, so that the Bretons, Welsh and Scots can restore Albion to its proper condition

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Maybe if we're very lucky, his story will have the same conclusion.

it's gonna end with him and Alex Jones gruntin and heavin together atop a gravy-drenched pile of mixed meat products

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Jeb! Repetition posted:

Argue for something better than fascism; donate, campaign and vote for candidates who aren't fascist; and report fascists if they commit crimes inspired by their worldview. That pretty much covers it.

go back to the Weimar Republic w/ this poo poo

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

ahhhh this owns owns owns

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

StashAugustine posted:

Yeah de-baathification was such a good idea

(It's complicated and there's no way they would have had the political will to do it)

de-baathification failed because it made tens of thousands of Iraqi soldiers of every rank, along with almost the entirety of the iraqi civil service, unemployed overnight, simultaneous with American forces leaving almost all the Iraqi government arsenals unguarded

hanging every officer above lieutenant and every planter head of household, and dividing their land and capital among their former dirt farmer serfs and liberated slaves, would've been a completely different project, undertaken with an army totally different in both structure and purpose from the American invasion force in gulf war 2

you are right that the Yankees lacked anything resembling the political will to undertake such a program though, above all Yankees at every strata of Union society wanted to avoid granting freed slaves sufficient liberty to actually move north into the industrial cities

if the cowards had actually killed off the master class, the South would be a magnificent place to live

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

spacetoaster posted:

Wasn't the south producing cotton/tobacco/sugar for the north? Or were they exporting it?

It worked like this. The south had three original export crops, in three separate growing areas: tobacco (Virginia), rice (Carolina littoral), sugar cane (Louisiana)--though bear in mind that Louisiana remained European-controlled until the early 19th century. These commodities were shipped from the South's two primary ports, New Orleans and Charleston SC, to the big transatlantic shipping centers of the American eastern seaboard: mainly New York, but also Boston and Baltimore. Banks in those northern cities offered loans to the Southern planters, providing capital that they could turn into slaves and, in the case of sugar cane, the fairly complex system of milling and boiling that turns raw cane into grain sugar. Merchant houses in those northern cities then handled the shipment of the slave-produced agricultural commodities to European markets. The main economic story of the American 18th century was how this symbiotic relationship relationship enriched the elites of both north and south, but with discordant note in the final decades: it looked like slave-agriculture as a system was on its way out.

The tobacco did very well for the first century+ after colonization, but tobacco's hard on the soil it's grown in and one of the persistent issues with the planters was that they were too busy hunting, dueling, loving their cousins and/or slaves, etc. to practice sustainable agricultural practices like crop rotation. By the end of the 18th century the soil of the main commercial growing areas of Virginia was practically worked to death, and the net volume of tobacco crops was declining each year. The rice and sugar cane cultivation systems didn't face that issue, but were tightly constrained by geography; there's only so many places in the American southeast where either could grow, and those were already in full production. With tobacco failing, it looked as though there would be no economic niche for slavery outside of the Carolina littoral and Louisiana in the American landscape within a few decades of independence. In the north actual slavery was already relegated to household servants for the wealthy, as it never proved economical in agriculture intended for domestic consumption. The practice was abolished in most of the northern states in the late 18th/early 19th, simply because it was an irrelevance to their economies, and there was considerable expectation in the 1790s that the practice would soon be gone for good. Enter cotton; more specifically, enter British textile manufacturing.

The Industrial Revolution finally really got underway in Britain after the Napoleonic Wars, and the end of the blockade the British government maintained on Napoleonic Europe through most of the 19th century's first decade and a half. The first capitalist textile mills, operating water- and steam-powered equipment, created an unparalleled demand for raw cotton almost overnight. Cotton's not nearly as hard on the soil as tobacco, and unlike rice or sugarcane it grew wonderfully throughout the southeast. The same financiers who'd made such bank offering agricultural loans to the planters soon had vast new fields of slave-worked export agriculture to invest in, while the shipping concerns had commensurately vast new cargoes of cotton to export to the British mills. The Brits tried to clamp down hard on their new industrial technologies, but with a little help from British immigrants smuggling out schematics northern elites were able to diversify from finance and shipping into actual production facilities, all processing slave-picked cotton, and still largely shipping their textile products to European ports. Elites in north and south continue to get richer, and as American expansion moved westward Southern settlers established huge new growing areas along the Mississippi and beyond.

This symbiotic relationship between northern capitalists and southern planter aristocrats only began to fray in the later 19th century, due to two contributing factors: 1) new export-driven cotton production schemes in Egypt and India driving the commodity's overall price down; and 2) the beginning of the American railroad boom opening whole new fields of investment for the same financial and industrial concerns that had previously made most of their money from southern ag exports. The capital generated by the transatlantic cotton trade diversified into new forms of industrial production in the early-mid 19th century, based in and around the big northern cities and staffed by immigrants fresh off the boats from Europe. Extension of rail lines into the relatively recently settled American northwest offered excellent return on investments, and those same lines allowed northern manufacturers to begin selling cheap mass-produced tools and early steam-powered farm machinery to the settlers of places like Ohio and Michigan--all paid for with agricultural loans from the same banks that had made their fortunes financing the southern plantations. With the profitability of the planters' produce diminishing by the year, the northern tycoons needed the southern aristocrats less and less, while the planters felt the rough political parity they'd held with those tycoons slipping away. The planters grew ever more paranoid over a political possibility that seemed impossible in the salad years of the cotton industry: national abolition, as the northern elites lost their material interest in protecting slavery from northern anti-slavery activists. Tension mounted from the 1840s onward, accompanied by increasingly acrimonious Congressional gridlock quite familiar to 21st century Americans, till the proverbial kettle boiled over when Abraham Lincoln, an openly anti-slavery Republican candidate, won the 1860 presidential election. Some assholes in Charleston lit up Ft. Sumter, the slaveholding states declared secession, and the rest is history.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

exactly

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1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Even in the 90s after the OK City bombing?

Is this a joke? OK City was the end result of them actually trying to go after the militia movement. McVeigh was directly radicalized by Ruby Ridge and Waco, and his attack showed the feds that going after the militias could mean them facing real danger. OK City is what shifted them back into full passivity re: right-wing extremism.

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