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Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Lmao

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May 4, 2018

Continuity RCP posted:

Having been through entirely Catholic schooling I just find it difficult to understand someone actually believing any of it

E: I can understand ending up as a sort of Christian communist like the diggers or the early church, but a modern Catholic socialism must have some blind spots

There are large numbers of Catholics who lean very far left in Latin American countries. Jesus according to the Bible and some Catholic traditions (obviously, far from all) isn’t exactly big on the rich. A lot of Hispanic labor organization in SoCal was also run by people like this. Catholic Liberation Theology isn’t big in the US but it is in a lot of former colonial nations.

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May 4, 2018

I choose to believe

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May 4, 2018

Jose posted:

lmao make sure you keep watching until the end

https://twitter.com/sansdn/status/1172866160456454145?s=20

It was a rough loving ride for the first 30 second but hang in there because it gets worse.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

drat remember when the police collaborated with and was super gentle toward an up and coming fascist leader even after the fascists had just engaged in violence against the police and civilians I think I saw this movie somewhere.

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May 4, 2018

Halloween Jack posted:

So fashwave is like vaporwave, but it looks and sounds like complete poo poo?

Yeah it’s just outrun/vapor wave rip off but shittier with song names that dogwhistle with varying degrees of subtlety.

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May 4, 2018

Pope Guilty posted:

The higher you go in the food chain the worse an idea it becomes to eat the meat due to bioaccumulation. Humans would be a bad idea to eat even if it weren't horribly inefficient.

The main thing with eating your own species or similar is pathogens, that’s why you’re very unlikely to get sick eating raw or rare beef/poultry or saltwater seafood but you can only eat rare pork and freshwater seafood in places with really good food safety if at all because a lot parasites and other pathogens can infect humans.

This is a part of why a lot of diseases come out in Africa like Ebola and HIV where more desperate people will still eat very biologically similar animals like monkey species and pathogens have way more likely opportunities to crossover.

The rare cannibal tribes have insanely high incidence of absurdly rare diseases like prion infections plus a bunch of other nasty stuff because of this.

Though it is very true that higher food chain animals tend to accumulate more toxins, like how some fish can have dangerous levels of Mercury.

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May 4, 2018

Norton the First posted:

Not sure whether this is crazy or my whole life has been a lie.

That’s wrong I miscategorized , chicken at least frequently carries some bacteria that also infects us.

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May 4, 2018

CharlestheHammer posted:

we did mass murder thing to, I guess it depends on how invested you are in the industrialized part.

Equivocating between the allies and the Nazis is as obnoxious as equivocating between the Nazis and Stalin

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May 4, 2018

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

nazis in the u.s were a grave threat in those days. the german american bund was just one group. coughlin was doing mass rallies and had his own stormtrooper wing called the christian front that gang stomped and stabbed jews in new york all the time

Behind the Bastards has some great episodes on American fascists and some “nothing ever changes” how when some anti fascist veterans infiltrated the Nazis and gave the LAPD evidence they were doing illegal poo poo the LAPD was like “no they’re cool.”

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May 4, 2018

The time when the Nazis beat the poo poo out of a Jewish counter protester on stage actually did lead to the mayor personally getting involved in getting the LAPD is to actually do something against the wishes of the Chief of Police, who of course tried to cover again for the Nazis .

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May 4, 2018

Bushiz posted:

both the british and the nazis had genocides going on during WWII that had casualties numbering in the millions. The side that stopped the nazi one was the soviets.

If you attribute millions of deaths in India due to the effect of British policies rather than direct orders the same way you do to the Nazis then the Nazi death toll easily climbs into the hundreds of millions.

Colonialism was terrible, reprehensible and a massive tragedy in its own right and a shame in British history but even the millions of people who died due to British colonialism but the sheer horror and evil of what the Nazis did and how deliberately it was carried out in such a short time shouldn’t be equivocated to every other historical crime and man-made famines. Fascism was a uniquely terrible and destructive ideology even by the standards what Europe had done to the third world.

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May 4, 2018

I’m specifically responding to whoever “both sidesed” WW2. In many ways Nazis “perfected” the process that the US and other settlers used against the Natives and took racism and colonialism to its most horrific form. The point I’m making is that the Nazis were somehow even worse than any previous crime against humanity to such an extent that you shouldn’t equivocate the sheer scale and speed of what they did. This “well liberals and moderates do bad things and also fascists do bad things” is the reasoning that the KPD and non-Soviet socialist parties split from each other. The direct consequence of this was the Nazis taking power because they underestimated just how much worse fascists are than any other ideology.

The “hundreds of millions” is when you add the second order effects such as the famines in the Soviet Union and elsewhere following the war.

That’s the point I trying to make. I guess this derail is probably unproductive at this point and splitting hairs over it further just kinda looks like minimizing for either colonialism or Nazism depending on which side you’re arguing here but I just wanted to clarify the point I’m trying to make and since I’ve been reading and listening to a lot about the Weimar recently it reminded me how the Nazis were able to exploit that sort of rhetoric.

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May 4, 2018

Phi230 posted:

Does anybody have any reading material wrt to media treatment of antifascist organization in the 30s, media and business supporting nazis, etc...?

I can’t think of any book off the top of my head that address this specifically though I’m sure there are plenty.

Henry Ford was a huge supporter of fascism and Time magazine’s 1938 ‘Man of the Year’ plus a lot of media like the NYT fawned over Hitler and wrote humanizing fluff pieces.

Much of the early 30’s though Mussolini was more of the face of fascism.

There was also “Father Coughlin’s” fascist radio show in the US that was insanely popular in the 1930’s.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Oh yeah the Daily Mail was basically a mouthpiece for Oswald Mosley, aka the British wannabe Hitler.

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May 4, 2018


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/media/dan-crenshaw-bernie-sanders-panders-to-veterans.amp

Not fixing the VA to own the libs

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May 4, 2018

Ague Proof posted:

self-owned


the real jorp said it, it's in one of his books and he voiced the audiobook

I’m about to vomit for so many reasons

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Not a huge fan of that meme especially outside of EU4 games.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

Actually it is your fault for not seeing the signs that this very lone wolf had been planning a shooting to release some economic anxiety, screaming blood soaked gunshot victim. How insensitive of you. You could have prevented this.

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May 4, 2018


Off topic but Anton Shekhovstsov sounds like a character from a Cold War era propaganda film.

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May 4, 2018

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:

yo this comment on that article



Oh a guy in Army (which hasn’t had nukes except that weird insane suicide backpack nuke program in the 60’s) doesn’t have access to nukes, everything else is fine guys.

Butter Activities has issued a correction as of 11:00 on Oct 15, 2019

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May 4, 2018

Norton the First posted:

Why did Pinochet kill people that way, anyway? Super costly and inefficient.

Dealing with the bodies is historically a huge logistical problem when committing any atrocity. The more you know!

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

:gary:

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May 4, 2018

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

as a leftist, I believe a ~sufficiently woke dictatorship~ will fix political minorities' problems because...

Obviously we just haven’t put unchecked power into the right persons hands yet.

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May 4, 2018

Tetrabor posted:

Pretty much this, like 90% of all U.S. Army company patches are some form of skull with poo poo layered in front and behind it. The descriptor for the patch usually mentions it as the 'manifestation of death coming for your enemies' kind of thing.

You also see the special ops guys riding in and off base with those masks so your average grunt thinks it's extra hot poo poo.

The whole skull mask thing took off from Call of Duty. Personally I’ve never actually seen special ops dudes ever wearing them, just wannabes in conventional units and cops on their Instagram and militia dorks.

Hell most chud cop/soldier symbols seem to be on a 10 year delay after even SEALs stop thinking they’re cool, case in point punisher skulls.

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May 4, 2018


It is basically an attempt to become what a child thinks a badass is, though to give credit most children probably don’t think skull masks are cool anymore.

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May 4, 2018

Oh also airsofters lol they love those skull masks

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May 4, 2018

Is kiwifarms and something sensitive the same guys or different groups of people who got mad they couldn’t drop n-bombs in gbs?

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May 4, 2018

Firefighters aren’t cool anyway because they don’t shoot preteens and do lame stuff like provide the public EMS and rescue services for free.

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May 4, 2018

Porpoise With A Purpose posted:

Does anyone have the link to that ridiculously long list of right wing terror attacks?

I made my own database of single attacker terror attacks from the GTD data for a research project, I could share it here when I get done with work this week.

It includes all motivations but obviously we know which ones were dominant

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May 4, 2018

Bullfrog posted:

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1243881529396338688

lucian wintrich or whatever hosted that party.

The Masque of the Boomer Death

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May 4, 2018

Nothing new, states rights was cool when it came to restricting black voting and civil rights but but when suddenly bad when it came to legal pot or strict gun laws.

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May 4, 2018

Spergin Morlock posted:

lol. when the guy with the nazi armband got knocked the gently caress out in seattle even though the guys face was clearly visible in a few frames the police were just like "uhhh yup we're probably not going to locate that guy"

Rare examples of good policing.

“it’s a civil matter”

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

I can’t really think of nor find any examples of Harris feuding with alt righters. Shockingly, he has stanned some lighter alt-y adjacents like Jorp Jorp and defended the “Bell Curve.” Harris is basically a Bill Maher limousine liberal racist but with a PhD and lots of whispering about the singularity and tech bro stuff.

This reminds me of my favorite Taleb rant about Sam Harris which is that Sam is the expert at attacking what people say out of context but never what anyone actually meant.

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

The atomwaffen doomer eco-fascist wing likes the aesthetic of any sort of anti-modernity so yeah.

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May 4, 2018

Andy can suck my rear end in a top hat from the front

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May 4, 2018

SatansOnion posted:

I say go big or go home, with a Jurassic Park-styled genetic reconstruction of one of those extinct terror birds

Murder chickens

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May 4, 2018

Lmao they think it’s real


https://twitter.com/redwinggrips/status/1274008659773853696?s=21

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May 4, 2018

Alan Smithee posted:

what a wholesome message about destigmatizing prison inmates

Yeah it’s an oddly human statement given the of the aesthetic of the video

everything about it is so Louisiana which is basically what if America went completely third world.

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May 4, 2018

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

not watching the video but i think that was originally some drug war stuff from a few years ago

Yeah I think it’s directed at a gang or something.

Second best part after his critique of the prison industrial complex is this dude who clearly doesn’t lift talking about how much he lifts.

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