Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Bet you meant to post that in the dad thread.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
*awkward bow with bong in hand*

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Oh, I'll pass the bong, it's the lighter I have a constant death clutch on.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I'll use any color Bic. I don't care in the slightest if it's pink or black or barney dick purple. I buy a five pack (or two if they're on sale) every couple of months and there's always at least one pink and purple because people are bitches and make the clerk pick ones with non-gender related stereotypes.

It's a goddamn lighter. Does it spit fire? Yes? We're good. No? Throw it at somebody.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Yes. Even people late in to life. Like at least one of my coworkers who's 40ish.

As long as it serves its purpose, I could care less if I'm lighting from a Bic or a goddamn wooden torch.

gently caress those lovely cheap clear lighters though. Never had a bic blow up in my hands.



Wow, I'm really good at sidetracking. Gonna hit this shatter and wait for any other lurkers to out themselves. Or listen to crickets.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Because shim hired "undocumented immigrants" to construct his web.

Honestly, they're just more experienced and skilled craftsmen.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Redundancy is the heart of bureaucracy.

*stamps FILED five times*

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I don't know about the air force, but in the army, if you couldn't talk your way into E2 or E3 in your contract, you were probably in line for a poo poo job. So those dumb E1s and E2 you never see are on lovely details.

Also, E1s move on to E2s usually in 6 months time, then to E3 another 6 months to a year later. People just don't stay at those lowest ranks unless they're PT potatoes or Article collectors, and those guys were getting pushed out over the last decade. Lots stall at E4 because gently caress the army I'm getting out states of mind. And training time eats into a lot of those time in service requirements. My boot and AIT were about 6 months. I contracted E2, pinned E3 after being in Korea about 3 months. My brother contracted E2 and his training was 9 months or so long. Long enough that I think he pinned E3 pretty much immediately at his first unit in Korea. By immediately I mean two or three months after because army has to army up everything.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Someone asked about it and the opinions come out.

Everyone's the same rank when you collect your DD214 anyhow: hosed.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
About as dumb as banning smoking on base at night and in theater. "NO SMOKING! ENEMY COULD BE OUT THERE WATCHING YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR CHERRY. Here pri'ate, go turn that lightset generator on and point over there and get in formation under it."

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
HAIL SATIN

boxers draped gently over my balls.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
5.5 years as an E4? Jesus, how far up the E4 mafia chain did you climb? Did you get to bang Don Specialists' wife?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
:same:

My brother shammed his way through four years of active and a year NG. It was probably for the better that he never deployed, but he spent a few years in Korea (we had new years together at Humphreys).

If he had a plan to use it as a stepping stone like you, I'd respect him more for his shamming ability.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Because they raised the enlistment age for the push to build up for/during OIF. Went up to 42, I think, for a while.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
You colorblind fucks know they make corrective glasses for that poo poo now, right?

There was a to-do about it on one of the CBS saturday morning shows, probably the Mo Rocca one.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Nystral posted:

One of my neighbors can barely walk / move his knees after 20 years in the USAF. Yet he claims that he's on 30 or 40% disability and was hoping to get it upped after an evaluation of some kind.

1) is that 40% of his pay at separation?
2) does it come out of his retirement pay if he's collecting it?
3) is your disability determined by the VA or the DOD?
4) do sadbrains qualify for disability or just brokebody?

DAV, VFW and American Legion act as representatives. Tell him to call or visit one of their offices. If he's near a VA hospital, DAV will have a rep inside. He'll need to talk to them about scheduling a C&P review (compensation and pension). The DAV will set up the appointment and he'll get a letter in the mail in 1-6 months telling him where to be and when.

Rule of thumb seems to be 30% max per limb. If he gets rated on both at 30%, he'll be set at 50% rating. 30% for the first claim, 30% of the remaining difference to 100% for the second, so 30% of 70% being 21%, they'll round down to 20%, which is then added to the initial 30% for 50% total.

Mental health is most certainly covered. If it's not necessarily PTSD that's riding his rear end, then likely he'll catch a rating for depression and/or anxiety.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
At some point you should probably walk around a burn barrel.

Or for the navy experience, get in a barrel with a hole about 30" from the ground.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
THE OVERHEAD CLAP

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

tastefully arranged labia posted:

the most useless exercise ever

About as useful as heel raises.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
My bad for starting the PT call out.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
The only real reason to enlist is if it will improve your life, not gently caress it up.

Billy Bob at the trailer park in Buttfuck, Ky? Go ahead and enlist. Comfy job and family in SF? Hahahaha.


Seriously. Don't. Your life will become a living hell and it won't stop for at least six years. You'll probably be deployed a time or two. You'll waste a weekend a month and probably a month of the year on absolute army related bullshit. And for what, a pittance of a drill paycheck?

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I prefer the love and respect of my dog.

He's not responsible for VA health care though.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
It's not really a working environment, it's a lifestyle that requires time to adapt. The military will take up every waking hour of your day at some point and you'll think back like "why the gently caress did I do this again?" It'll start with boot and you'll be all hooah about boot and secondary school. But then some point during your reserve obligation, probably rather early, your unit is going to catch orders and you get to go on a paid vacation in a warzone.

Mind you, there's imminent danger pay, and you're not taxed while serving in theater, but you're only stacking that on E4 pay. So you're probably gonna gross pretty alright for feeding a family in Assfuck, Arkansas, not California, but that's only really while you're deployed. But who cares, right? Employers can't legally fire you with standing military orders. And that year you were gone playing on SIPR is only going to roll you back on any advances that have come out while you were deployed. And your company can always find a loophole to cut you loose (downsizing due to blah).

I'll leave the imagination to run with what you think might happen to any relationships you have if you do join, and how it will change them. Positive experiences seem to be rare, and that's because they are, so make sure you follow the darkest rabbit holes your mind can conjure. If your wife has a male friend named Jody, it's already doomed.

So I'll stand by my statement that if you're not joining the military to better your position in life (like Billy Bob in the trailer park), you're making a poor decision. But it's your choice so let us all know.

Someone post the shim rant about intel officers or whatever.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Yeah, stop losses are a kick in the balls.

Basically, when you initially enlist, you do it for 8 years. Your active duty obligation is whatever you sign up for (3-6 years, usually), but the additional time, should you not re-enlist, is what's called IRR time (inactive ready reserve). So, for the duration of the initial enlistment that you're in IRR, you're essentially recallable. There are exceptions, like disability ratings, being flagged/barred from re-enlisting, or pretty much any discharge besides honorable, but if they send a letter or issue a stop loss, you're rear end is theirs as long as it's within the 8 years you sign up for in the beginning.

All enlisted idiot contracts are that way. There's no dancing around that 8 year obligation when they call and if they really, really want you.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
The other mechanic in my unit volunteered himself for stop loss. He was a weird guy. But it was that or go back to Michigan.

He went back to Michigan 15 months later instead.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
If circumstances dictate, they can keep you until the end of that 8 years, there's no six month cap on it. If they need you, they'll keep you until you're no longer under obligation.

Get your buddy an account here. He's gonna have a bunch of questions when he does get discharged.

CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Nov 2, 2017

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Good on you for escaping rural Illinois.

Pretty sure all of us here have imposter syndrome sometimes. Don't let it weigh you down.

At some point you'll probably look back and the moments that sucked about the military will be the ones you miss the most. There's a lot to hate about the service, but it left you with a half-crazy, half-retarded nationwide dysfunctional family of vets to call on when you need a hand.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Man, do they not teach lower enlisted air force to sham? When the whisp of a detail starts wafting through the wind, you find something not detail related to do.

The terrible details, like playing with literal poo poo, were doled out to extra duty dipshits.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Clipboards used to be the golden rule of looking busy. If you were an overachiever you got supply to give you one of the metal ones that flips open or around or whatever and just jammed random papers into it. "Sorry sarge, I got this thing here (blank paper) to go to, and this thing here (receipt for brake parts) to go to after that. See you at CoB sarge!"

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Yeah, shamming is an artform.

The people who stayed on rear det in my battalion were loving masters of the trade. Several of them had second jobs that were during the duty day, and because everyone that mattered deployed, no one bothered stopping it until the advance for return deployment showed up.

Then it was a poo poo show.


Oh, and you can't park at your own barracks if you're shamming there. Park down the block, park in a pack of cars the next barracks over, but don't make it obvious.

CRUSTY MINGE fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Nov 14, 2017

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Someone somewhere didn't like you. They recognized competency and proceeded to make you miserable for it.

I'm fairly sure that's in some creed somewhere. Recognize, inundate, and create misery.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Arc Light posted:

I had already been assigned to bay orderly detail for the week. Dunno if that exists in the Army/Navy/Marines, but in the Air Force it means that you do all the cleanup bitchwork in the dorms/barracks.

Army has different things in different barracks. It seems to be whatever companies are housed in it must agree to make rotations. When I was in a big company, it was split by rooms to sweep/mop the floors. It was a newer barracks, so soldiers were responsible for their own shitters. There were 14 rooms on each side of the main staircase, one room each day for two weeks.

In a smaller company, we only took up about 100 feet of a hallway on one floor. New building, we took care of our areas, and being higher traffic areas but smaller, we never bitched. Rotated one room (two troops) a week.

In the Korean war era barracks on Campbell, it was pretty much decided by paper, rock, scissors, but there were only a dozen of us in the barracks. Top heavy units don't care as much about what kind of squallor the junior enlisted live in. Didn't even have a CQ desk. They were lovely block asbestos buildings in line for a wrecking ball anyhow. Even then, we would've bitched to someone else if it was beyond simple repair. Half our urinals were controlled by a screwdriver left on top of one of them. I would just poo poo at work, because that's the perfect sham.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
I was in the moron brigade at Campbell, DISCOM, when they were changing over from the Leaning Shithouse for leadership. It was called a lot of things, Sustainment Bde, 5th Bde (definitely not as we had almost no combat arms guys), it was a strange brigade. By the time I got back from my Iraq deployment, the rest of the 101st was leaving for Afghanistan.

We subsequently got away with a lot of lazy poo poo.

  • Locked thread