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Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
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Brute Squad posted:

That was a good-rear end av

The title was what did it for me.

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Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
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On paper? Yes.

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
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Godholio posted:

In the Air Force, E-1 and E-2 are rarely seen in the wild. That early, you're promoted very quickly...think of it as positive reenforcement. As long as you're not completely loving up, you make E-2 after six months, then E-3 ten months later. Figure a fair amount of that time is spent in training for your career field, and waiting between different phases of that training. If you did JROTC in high school or have X college credits, you can even skip E-1 or E-2 and graduate basic training as an E-3.

You could also get E-3 at twenty weeks or graduation from your tech school, whichever came first, if your initial contract was for six years instead of four. Might be the only true thing the recruiters mention. In both of my classes, I only saw one guy not graduate with stripes on their uniform.

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As far as ribbons go, the rule is that if you're going to wear them, you wear all of them that you're authorized. That wasn't always the case, which is why you look at photos of WWII generals and they have 3 or 6 or whatever...they've got more, but the rule wasn't written yet. That said, the US gives away medals and ribbons for goddamned anything, so unless you know which ones actually mean something, don't be fooled. Look for the quality instead of quantity. Hell, I was in for about 8 years and I think my stack is 5 full rows. Only a couple have the slightest tinge of pride associated with earning them. Another Air Force tradition is that if you're wearing blues, only enlisted wear their ribbons on the shirt. It's optional, but for whatever reason enlisted wear them, officers do not. That's shirt only, if you're wearing the full service dress with the jacket, they're mandatory.

Two weeks ago I was listening to one of my state's senators present a certificate of appreciation to a vet and I had to hold in a laugh at them acting like the guy's longevity medals were worth something.

And I can't remember now, but I think I was able to get away with not wearing ribbons with my blues. The only mandatory bit was the nametag, but as long as you had something on the other side (ribbons or badge), no one would care. I also hardly ever wore my blues, so my memory's a bit fuzzy on how I did wear them.

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
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Flikken posted:

FYI air force e-4 is not a nco. I'm not disputing your point but if you turned all of the specialists currently in the army Corporal that would uhh cause some problems. You just made everyone in the army that had been in 2 years without being flagged into NCOs. They should bring back the specialist career path anyway.

Depending on the shop, E-4 was treated as either E-3 with more pay or E-5 with less pay.

Mr. Nice! posted:

And what's the big deal if they are? There are gently caress tons of petty officers in the navy that are pushbuttoned (automatic E4 or E5). The leadership roles are filled by senior E4s or E5s anyways. There is no good reason to keep specialist other than army history.


Lets not act like being a corporal is really some big deal.

It would've been nice to not be told to get the shift supervisor everytime I picked up the phone because the person on the other line didn't think junior enlisted could do anything right.

Kuroyama
Sep 15, 2012
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Nystral posted:

Did you have to introduce yourself with your rank? "This is Private First Class Kuroyama..."?

Mr. Nice! posted:

Only time you ever introduce yourself with rank is when you're talking to someone on the phone or someone you don't know. In the military your name is generally Rank Lastname instead of First Lastname.

Each rank also has a shortened form you could use. I could the phone with "Senior Airman Kuroyama" or "Airman Kuroyama", and both would be correct. My job involved a lot of talking on the phone, and the offices that I worked with often (maintenance, fire, police) weren't that bad about wanting an NCO. It was the rest of the calls that asked for someone with a higher rank, and like 85% of the calls were for something that I would've been able to answer anyways.

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