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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

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this is a good thread.

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Rad Lieutenant posted:

Hi everyone I'm not an actual rad lieutenant

A little trick to tell your wife for when she's spying on you next is if you can reset the last read post toggle by clicking the little flag icon that changes from yellow to white when you're read posts.

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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:

Oh, I'll pass the bong, it's the lighter I have a constant death clutch on.

This is why I buy white lighters almost exclusively.

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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:

Yes. Even people late in to life. Like at least one of my coworkers who's 40ish.

As long as it serves its purpose, I could care less if I'm lighting from a Bic or a goddamn wooden torch.

gently caress those lovely cheap clear lighters though. Never had a bic blow up in my hands.



Wow, I'm really good at sidetracking. Gonna hit this shatter and wait for any other lurkers to out themselves. Or listen to crickets.

I buy white ones because people generally seem to dislike them and I don't know why. I also just rip the wrapper off any decal covered one that someone leaves at my place so I can add it to the white collection.

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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

Direct commissions are a thing for other jobs, like Doctors, Lawyers and such. I don't think any of them commission at Colonel which seems crazy as hell to me.

I've met full bird captain doctors with nothing but a national defense ribbon. Recruiting good cyber people is a major problem that's been identified and there's been talk for a while at bringing them in at higher ranks just so they can offer competitive pay. They're comlletely isolated to their community and wont be line officers so they'll never be in command.

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Nostalgia4Butts posted:

we had a heart surgeon that direct commissioned as a O-5. Nice guy.

The O6 I met at officer training command in Newport was a heart surgeon. Dude had a son that died while deployed and felt guilty. He left a multiple million dollar practice so he could go work at hospitals in Iraq/Afghanistan. This was in 2008.


While at OTCN I was thumbing through one of the navy newspapers there. One was listing bonuses for various doctor specialties. Experienced anesthesiologists were given a 250k bonus and guaranteed to start as an O3 or O4. I only remember that because I think it was the highest bonus offered.

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Yes shimazu is his former username.

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On some navy uniforms, ribbons/medals are prescribed. Working uniforms, such as the old dungarees, utilities, and wash khakis (:rip:) and current NWUs & coveralls, do not ever have ribbons worn on them. Service uniforms you can wear your full rack of ribbons or just your highest 3 ribbons/medals earned on a single line. Dress uniforms, iirc, full ribbons except when wearing medals. Some functions call for mini medals but no one cares unless you're senior enlisted or an officer.

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Flikken posted:

Yes, lets make all E-4's in the Army NCO's at the stroke of pen.


Edit: or are you talking about just changing the insignia, good luck with that also.

Every other branch does just fine with all their E4s at the same rank/title. Corporal vs specialist is a dumb distinction and only exists because the army is dumb. It made sense when you had up to spec 9 as an alternative career path. Now its pointless.

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Flikken posted:

FYI air force e-4 is not a nco. I'm not disputing your point but if you turned all of the specialists currently in the army Corporal that would uhh cause some problems. You just made everyone in the army that had been in 2 years without being flagged into NCOs. They should bring back the specialist career path anyway.

And what's the big deal if they are? There are gently caress tons of petty officers in the navy that are pushbuttoned (automatic E4 or E5). The leadership roles are filled by senior E4s or E5s anyways. There is no good reason to keep specialist other than army history.


Lets not act like being a corporal is really some big deal.

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Flikken posted:

Because what works in the Navy might not work in the Army?


How about you get rid of rates and go to a MOS System like every other branch?

It works in the marines, too. :ssh:

Also getting rid of rates was a good idea and I wish they hadn't backed down on it.

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Flikken posted:

Stealth Edit: this is a dumb argument.

Much like the specialist rank. :v: (I do agree with you this is silly)

Nystral posted:

Did you have to introduce yourself with your rank? "This is Private First Class Kuroyama..."?

Are places like Okinawa or Rammstein that different then Ft. Hood or Ft. Bragg given how long the military has been there?

Do officers get "push buttoned" into higher ranks like enlisted? How much officer / enlisted interaction occurs with say O1s and E2s?

Only time you ever introduce yourself with rank is when you're talking to someone on the phone or someone you don't know. In the military your name is generally Rank Lastname instead of First Lastname.

Overseas assignments always are different than conus, and it's usually not in a good way rule wise. There are a lot of dumb rules and restrictions overseas because servicemembers like to drink and rape and stab cabbies.

Officers promotion and enlisted advancement are different setups. Officer promotions are congressional appointments while enlisted ranks mostly are not. The most junior officer promotions and enlisted advancement are typically automatic, though they do vary slightly branch to branch. O1-O3 is automatic unless you gently caress up bad and E1-E3 is auto in most branches. The navy pushbutton to E4 & E5 are specific contract bonuses that certain jobs can get. They do not start at those ranks, but rather automatically advance once they meet the requisite time in the previous rank (6 months at E3 and 1 yr at E4).

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TBeats posted:

YOU KNOW WHY WE USE RED LIGHT ITS BECAUSE THE ENEMY CANT SEE IT FROM AS FAR AWAY AS WHITE LIGHT

*uses a million lumes tac light to ratfuck MREs while on guard anyway*

red light is important for use at night because it doesn't affect your night vision. Ships out at sea have a mode where all the lights, switches, gauges, and anything else visible switch to red at night so you can still step out on the bridgewing and see.

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CTN is a field that they were actually talking about starting people at E7 a while back to match civilian pay better. If he actually makes it through school and all its one of the fastest advancing rates and the work has very little navy bullshit to deal with on a day-to-day basis.

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1337JiveTurkey posted:

I'm 35, red colorblind and have the stereotypical goon physique along with a masters degree in computer science. What branches should I enlist in if I'm dissatisfied with all the stupid bullshit in my current job?

look into navy CTN

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1337JiveTurkey posted:

It says something that the certificates on https://www.cool.navy.mil/usn/enlisted/ctn.htm aren't properly configured.

government websites will always do that because they roll their own crypto and you have to install their root certs.

TBeats posted:

You'll be a waste of supplies if you enlist with a degree

Navy CTN actually looks for people like him and they already allow them to come in at higher than normal paygrades (there was rumblings of people enlisting as E7s at one point) because it is such an in need job and civilian pay far outpaces junior enlisted pay.

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but seriously, duder, look up ctn. There is at least one CTN goon that I know of and probably more out there. You avoid almost all navy bullshit and you get to live the neckbeard dream (although clean shaven) of being in windowless rooms surrounded by computers all day.

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CHICKEN SHOES posted:

It might even be worth just looking on USAjobs.com for a civilian contractor job tbh, then at least you wont have to deal with as much poo poo and you can still escape the private side of things

This, too.

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Nystral posted:

One of my neighbors can barely walk / move his knees after 20 years in the USAF. Yet he claims that he's on 30 or 40% disability and was hoping to get it upped after an evaluation of some kind.

1) is that 40% of his pay at separation?
2) does it come out of his retirement pay if he's collecting it?
3) is your disability determined by the VA or the DOD?
4) do sadbrains qualify for disability or just brokebody?

1) No. The 40% is the VA disability rating that determines VA eligibility and compensation.
2) No. Retirement pay will be reduced by the amount the VA pays, though, because the VA pay is tax free whereas retirement pay is income.
3) VA determines disability ratines.
4) Anything wrong with you can be rated by the VA if it's service connected. After 20 years, everything wrong with your friend is presumed service connected. Whenever he is out, he needs to set up an appointment with a VSO like the american legion or any of the ones out there. He'll file a claim for each thing wrong with him, get evaluated, and get rated.

A VSO will be able to explain the entire process to your neighbor and get him taken care of.

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