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Tikka Masalla is British though.
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Man Musk posted:he put peas in the guacamole Fusion cuisine
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Jan 27, 2017 21:29
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rudatron posted:the really funny thing with complaining about appropriation, is that you're essentially guaranteeing that the majority culture will never, ever be influenced by the minority culture, in any positive way, because bastardization is like the first step to introducing something foreign Have you considered that cultural imperialism is just as inconsistent and ill-defined a concept as cultural appropriation This kind of cargo cult anthropology is universally incomprehensible imo Anyone getting a bee up their bonnet about uppity college kids complaining about cafeteria food needs to take a chill pill and try and put themselves in their place for a moment.
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Jan 27, 2017 23:34
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PleasingFungus posted:knowledge is generally nice, but i don't see why knowledge of food/musical history is particularly important. The interest, is what is being referenced. If you want Indian curry for lunch, try actually going to the Indian place for it and if you are approached by an Indian person later, try not to zone out when they start talking about their culture because what you ate is an important parcel of that culture. Put simply: show interest in the people who produce the things you like, since after all, they are people too.
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Jan 27, 2017 23:44
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Tikka Masalla is British though. only in the same sense that American Chinese food is "American" - it might have been invented in America, but it was invented by Chinese immigrants adapting Chinese cuisine to American tastes and sensibilities
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Jan 27, 2017 23:59
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Squalid posted:Have you considered that cultural imperialism is just as inconsistent and ill-defined a concept as cultural appropriation I would think that it would be for their benefit to be taught the concept properly, since they clearly don't get it I know 99% of the whining is code for "stop talking about the subject altogether" though
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Jan 28, 2017 01:14
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Lindsey O. Graham posted:The interest, is what is being referenced. If you want Indian curry for lunch, try actually going to the Indian place for it and if you are approached by an Indian person later, try not to zone out when they start talking about their culture because what you ate is an important parcel of that culture. i'm the person who produces the things i like. i make the curry. it's good. i'm not the person who invented curry, of course. if i said that, it'd be dumb! but the thing is, the inventor of curry is dead. their children are dead, too. ditto, their grandchildren. their creation has spread across the globe, and now people of all races and creeds can enjoy curry freely. that's a good thing. it is absurd to say that, by eating curry, i am placing myself in the debt of any currently living person or group of people. i do not have a moral obligation to go out for lunch!
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Jan 28, 2017 02:09
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Main Paineframe posted:you would be doing the people of India a disservice if you thought that curry was British food would i be doing the people of india a disservice if i thought that curry was japanese food? it was introduced to japan by indian sailors on british vessels, after all. does that mean that japanese curry is properly considered indian food?
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Jan 28, 2017 02:14
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Squalid posted:Have you considered that cultural imperialism is just as inconsistent and ill-defined a concept as cultural appropriation I accepted that college might involve having to eat some lovely cafeteria food and so did everyone else I was there with, people bitched about the food but they didn't complain to the food services and call them racist over it.
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Jan 28, 2017 02:32
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is being super quick to express how you are not culiturally insensitive a white person thing or
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Jan 28, 2017 02:44
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i believe it is Woke.
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Jan 28, 2017 04:48
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Main Paineframe posted:only in the same sense that American Chinese food is "American" - it might have been invented in America, but it was invented by Chinese immigrants adapting Chinese cuisine to American tastes and sensibilities Yep. But it's still British food, and it's delicious. The exception for sure as far as British food goes.
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Jan 28, 2017 04:51
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Main Paineframe posted:only in the same sense that American Chinese food is "American" - it might have been invented in America, but it was invented by Chinese immigrants adapting Chinese cuisine to American tastes and sensibilities So it's definitely British then?
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Jan 28, 2017 04:55
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"stop talking about the subject altogether" is the only way to address this bullshit. There is no such loving thing as cultural appropriation. There is only the marketplace of ideas. Yes people borrow and steal within that market, but the only thing that would be "appropriation"would be trying to pass off borrowed and stolen ideas as authentic and from the original source. As long as you acknowledge the origin you're doing nothing wrong.
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Jan 28, 2017 06:13
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"There's no such thing as cultural appropriation, there's only *describes textbook definition of cultural appropriation*" also lol at "marketplace of ideas". the invisible hand of the free market of ideas will solve this oh poo poo someones telling me not to demean their heritage, don't they know the only way to address this is to shut up?
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Jan 28, 2017 07:20
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If you want to laugh at dumb college kids whining about white people wearing kimonos at festivals run by Japanese people or ordering curry at Indian restaurants "extra spicy, really I can take it", then I don't think you have to worry about anything because that's stupid people being stupid and is hilarious. Dismissing the concept of Cultural Appropriation as a whole, especially pointing to examples like this as an excuse, is bad because there are concrete examples of minority cultures being harmed by the majority cultures attempt at "cultural exchange".
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Jan 28, 2017 07:35
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Its not the appropriation that actually harms the minority culture though, it's just plain old racism that's denying them opportunity or whatever It's the dumb college kids that are using the term correctly, not you, so yeah gently caress that noise
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Jan 28, 2017 07:56
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Like you don't get to deploy the No True Scotsman fallacy because you don't like the implications of your idea, either appropriation is bad or it's not
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Jan 28, 2017 07:59
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Yeah if one group was actually appropriating another's culture under the proper definition, then they were probably also doing much, much, worse things to that group at the same time. Like, if you're being loving enslaved or colonized, not getting credit for your cultural contributions is the least of your worries.
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Jan 28, 2017 08:21
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rudatron posted:Like you don't get to deploy the No True Scotsman fallacy because you don't like the implications of your idea, either appropriation is bad or it's not Anime Avatars are an example of harmful cultural appropriation because usually they are attached to bad posts I'm not sure how to respond because now you're whipping out "fallacies!". Is Cultural Appropriation to you any and all mixing of other cultures? If so, isn't "either appropriation is bad or it's not" a false dilemma?
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Jan 28, 2017 08:45
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everything can only be either insanely good or insanely bad
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Jan 28, 2017 09:18
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Matey, you're the one talking about how college kids crap totes 'doesn't count', because you said so, don't try this Just Asking Questions routine on me. Also all my posts are all insanely good, fyi, it's not my fault you have bad taste.
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Jan 28, 2017 10:44
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don't cross the cultures. try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of life. also imagine a white dude with dreadlocks
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Jan 29, 2017 07:04
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I wonder what if some guys in Zambia start putting on corpse paint and doing music which involves guitar riffs and screaming about how life is meaningless/ paganism are they culturally appropriating Scandinavians?
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Jan 29, 2017 09:28
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Lindsey O. Graham posted:The interest, is what is being referenced. If you want Indian curry for lunch, try actually going to the Indian place for it and if you are approached by an Indian person later, try not to zone out when they start talking about their culture because what you ate is an important parcel of that culture. thanx 4 this next time I go out to eat "ethnic" food I'll patronizingly badger the below minimum wage wait staff by insisting they explain their rich culture to me because clearly any brown person serving you chicken tikka just got off the flying carpet from the motherland yesterday and they're not just some guy who grew up in Jersey and is trying to avoid showing irritation at the patronizing yet self-loathing bourgey white liberal because he doesn't want to get shorted on the tip you dumbass
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Jan 29, 2017 11:55
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Crowsbeak posted:I wonder what if some guys in Zambia start putting on corpse paint and doing music which involves guitar riffs and screaming about how life is meaningless/ paganism are they culturally appropriating Scandinavians? There's a heavy metal leather movement in Botswana and it loving rules. http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/29/world/africa/botswana-heavy-metal-heads/ 
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Jan 29, 2017 11:57
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Lindsey O. Graham posted:The interest, is what is being referenced. If you want Indian curry for lunch, try actually going to the Indian place for it and if you are approached by an Indian person later, try not to zone out when they start talking about their culture because what you ate is an important parcel of that culture. Not that this scenario would ever actually happen, but why should I give a gently caress about his culture??
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Jan 29, 2017 15:26
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I find this thing confusing, and it makes me wonder whether I've misunderstood the broad objectives of what're generally called "progressives" now or if I'm just not American enough to get it. The whole idea of "cultural appropriation" seems to be supporting the notion that people come in distinct tribes and that those tribes a) can own ideas and b) are really super important. Isn't getting rid of that sort of thing what we're meant to be aiming for?
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Jan 29, 2017 15:59
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Crowsbeak posted:I wonder what if some guys in Zambia start putting on corpse paint and doing music which involves guitar riffs and screaming about how life is meaningless/ paganism are they culturally appropriating Scandinavians? PoC shouldn't subjugate themselves with that oppressive black metal culture, yeah
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Jan 29, 2017 16:46
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Dzhay posted:I find this thing confusing, and it makes me wonder whether I've misunderstood the broad objectives of what're generally called "progressives" now or if I'm just not American enough to get it. cool yeah *puts on headdress*
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Jan 29, 2017 17:02
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equality doesnt mean culturally homogenous holy poo poo
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Jan 29, 2017 17:03
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HailHorrorHail posted:If you want to laugh at dumb college kids whining about white people wearing kimonos at festivals run by Japanese people or ordering curry at Indian restaurants "extra spicy, really I can take it", then I don't think you have to worry about anything because that's stupid people being stupid and is hilarious. Counterpoint, I live in New England and nobody will make spicy food at restaurants for me :'(
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Jan 29, 2017 17:20
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Is it horseshoe theory when the far-left and far-right both don't want anyone else's culture in ours
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Jan 29, 2017 17:43
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Qwazes posted:Counterpoint, I live in New England and nobody will make spicy food at restaurants for me :'( be happy with your clam chowder white boi once i went to a Chinese restaurant that had pork intestines on the menu and when i tried to order it, the nice lady refused because actually pork intestines are disgusting so i didn't argue about wanting to eat Pig rear end in public and got pork belly instead.
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Jan 29, 2017 17:57
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Main Paineframe posted:only in the same sense that American Chinese food is "American" - it might have been invented in America, but it was invented by Chinese immigrants adapting Chinese cuisine to American tastes and sensibilities Are you under the impression that Chinese immigrants to America aren't American? Because that's bullshit.
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Jan 29, 2017 18:11
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^Liberals have their own special kind of racism
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Jan 29, 2017 18:21
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passionate dongs posted:equality doesnt mean culturally homogenous holy poo poo No, but it means that "cultural inhomogeneity" shouldn't be in any way enforced.
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Jan 29, 2017 18:40
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HailHorrorHail posted:PoC shouldn't subjugate themselves with that oppressive black metal culture, yeah but with satan and nazis
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Jan 29, 2017 18:45
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Is it horseshoe theory when the far-left and far-right both don't want anyone else's culture in ours It would require the far left doing it rather than bourgie centrist liberals trying to stay relevant.
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Dzhay posted:No, but it means that "cultural inhomogeneity" shouldn't be in any way enforced. it's not and i have no idea what you are talking about
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