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New season, new riders moving up from the other classes and a few seat changes. Jorge Lorenzo to Ducati, Maverick Vinales to Yamaha **All pictures are of the current test riders, there is no Casey Stoner** Aprilia Racing Team Gresini - We swear we're actually in the race Sam Lowes - listen to the annoucers fellate me cause I'm British. Aleix Espargaro Avintia Racing - We also swear we're actually racing, please believe us. Hector Barbera Loris Baz Ducati Team - We hope we bought a championship. With Casey Stoner doing the testing, someone that doesn't mind a loose and wild bike, then handing it over to Jorge who really likes the bikes sortedought to be interesting. Andrea Dovizioso - Has a faster new teammate that they hope won't spear him as often. Jorge Lorenzo - Still in Rossi's shadow by attempting to win a title for two different manufacturers. LCR Honda - We're contenders, we won a race last year. Cal Crutchlow - The rest of the field are pussies, and I took a gamble on tires and won. Marc VDS Racing Team - We swear we'll get better and not bring shame to our lower class teams. Jack Miller Tito Rabat Monster Yamaha Tech 3 - Place holder for people waiting to get onto the Movistar team. Johann Zarco - Won last year's Moto2, let's see how he does on the bigger bikes. Jonas Folger Movistar Yamaha MotoGP - Rossi's old but not out, Maverick, please don't piss off Rossi. Maverick Viñales - The new blood and won a race on a Suzuki last year. Valentino Rossi - Getting old but still able to feed the fire and attempt to start a new soap opera feud. OCTO Pramac Yakhnich - We're going for some between last and 8th, please. Danilo Petrucci Scott Redding Pull & Bear Aspar Team - We want to beat the other also rans. Karel Abraham - Back in the GP after some injuries and a stint in the WSBK, and now on a team not owned by his dad. Alvaro Bautista Red Bull KTM Factory Racing - We really want to try this road racing thing, we hope our steel trellis frames do the job. Bradley Smith Pol Espargaro Repsol Honda Team - We hope to hell our bike is still ridable during the racce now we have spec ECU and no winglets. Dani Pedrosa Marc Marquez Team SUZUKI ECSTAR - Iannone, please dear god don't spear Alex Rins, please! Andrea Iannone Alex Rins Skreemer fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jan 28, 2017 |
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# ? Jan 27, 2017 23:25 |
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Not that it means too much, but here's the first official test of the year from Sepang:pre:Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Lead. Gap Laps 1 STONER, Casey Ducati Test Team 1:59.680 25 / 32 2 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 1:59.797 0.117 23 / 29 3 VIÑALES, Maverick Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 2:00.129 0.449 34 / 54 4 BAUTISTA, Alvaro Pull&Bear Aspar Team 2:00.134 0.454 37 / 53 5 IANNONE, Andrea Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 2:00.489 0.809 22 / 44 6 CRUTCHLOW, Cal LCR Honda 2:00.569 0.889 27 / 44 7 FOLGER, Jonas Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:00.643 0.963 23 / 40 8 ROSSI, Valentino Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 2:00.694 1.014 20 / 27 9 MARQUEZ, Marc Repsol Honda Team 2:00.738 1.058 25 / 56 10 BARBERA, Hector Avintia Racing 2:00.743 1.063 24 / 38 11 PETRUCCI, Danilo OCTO Pramac Yakhnich 2:00.850 1.170 27 / 34 12 REDDING, Scott OCTO Pramac Yakhnich 2:00.853 1.173 28 / 44 13 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 2:00.970 1.290 25 / 44 14 ZARCO, Johann Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:01.224 1.544 46 / 69 15 ESPARGARO, Aleix Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:01.272 1.592 23 / 36 16 ESPARGARO, Pol Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 2:01.338 1.658 45 / 58 17 LORENZO, Jorge Ducati Team 2:01.349 1.669 40 / 45 18 BAZ, Loris Avintia Racing 2:01.352 1.672 47 / 48 19 TSUDA, Takuya Suzuki Test Team 2:01.812 2.132 28 / 79 20 RINS, Alex Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 2:01.890 2.210 49 / 52 21 ABRAHAM, Karel Pull&Bear Aspar Team 2:01.926 2.246 40 / 45 22 MILLER, Jack Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 2:01.943 2.263 49 / 51 23 NOZANE, Kohta Yamaha Factory Racing 2:02.187 2.507 33 / 36 24 NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki Yamaha Factory Racing 2:02.291 2.611 24 / 45 25 RABAT, Tito Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 2:02.315 2.635 22 / 37 26 LOWES, Sam Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:02.943 3.263 33 / 50 27 SMITH, Bradley Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 2:03.033 3.353 47 / 49 NC PIRRO, Michele Ducati Test Team
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# ? Jan 30, 2017 20:26 |
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That roster makes it look like its gonna be a good year for racing
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# ? Jan 30, 2017 21:28 |
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EX250 Type R posted:That roster makes it look like its gonna be a good year for racing A number of them are test riders only: 1 STONER, Casey Ducati Test Team 1:59.680 25 / 32 19 TSUDA, Takuya Suzuki Test Team 2:01.812 2.132 28 / 79 23 NOZANE, Kohta Yamaha Factory Racing 2:02.187 2.507 33 / 36 24 NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki Yamaha Factory Racing 2:02.291 2.611 24 / 45 NC PIRRO, Michele Ducati Test Team That's the list of test riders. Yhink what you wil of him and how he handles the press and his fans, but drat Casey Stoner is fast.
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# ? Jan 30, 2017 21:42 |
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nah I mean all the fresh blood from moto2 like lowes and zarco and rins and the team swaps. I like watching Zarco do back flips so I wish him luck
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The first test started dry and near the end of the day it started raining. Rossi reported he had a migraine and didn't start riding until some time in the afternoon. Overnight there was a torrential downpour that flooded portions of the track. In the morning for test two, even though there was no real amount of standing water, the water was in the new surface of the porous track. Jorge Lorenzo went out first and you could see huge plumes of water spraying in his wake. Lorenzo's first few laps were 2.50/2.48/2.49 before he came in. None of the other riders even went out until a few hours later when the track started drying more. Here's the results second test: pre:Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Lead. Gap Laps 1 IANNONE, Andrea Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 1:59.452 38 / 40 2 VIÑALES, Maverick Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 1:59.858 0.406 51 / 51 3 BAUTISTA, Alvaro Pull&Bear Aspar Team 2:00.218 0.766 46 / 49 4 ROSSI, Valentino Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 2:00.254 0.802 51 / 54 5 ZARCO, Johann Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:00.343 0.891 49 / 50 6 BARBERA, Hector Avintia Racing 2:00.352 0.900 26 / 33 7 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 2:00.441 0.989 33 / 42 8 LORENZO, Jorge Ducati Team 2:00.484 1.032 65 / 66 9 FOLGER, Jonas Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:00.495 1.043 43 / 43 10 MARQUEZ, Marc Repsol Honda Team 2:00.531 1.079 27 / 33 11 ESPARGARO, Aleix Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:00.609 1.157 29 / 36 12 CRUTCHLOW, Cal LCR Honda 2:00.691 1.239 39 / 44 13 RINS, Alex Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 2:00.876 1.424 36 / 36 14 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 2:00.886 1.434 38 / 44 15 REDDING, Scott Octo Pramac Racing 2:00.972 1.520 35 / 36 16 ABRAHAM, Karel Pull&Bear Aspar Team 2:00.981 1.529 43 / 44 17 PETRUCCI, Danilo Octo Pramac Racing 2:01.124 1.672 15 / 20 18 BAZ, Loris Avintia Racing 2:01.227 1.775 29 / 30 19 PIRRO, Michele Ducati Test Team 2:01.382 1.930 37 / 45 20 ESPARGARO, Pol Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 2:01.525 2.073 36 / 37 21 MILLER, Jack Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 2:01.556 2.104 24 / 56 22 LOWES, Sam Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:02.058 2.606 45 / 47 23 RABAT, Tito Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 2:02.189 2.737 24 / 30 24 TSUDA, Takuya Suzuki Test Team 2:02.267 2.815 52 / 54 25 SMITH, Bradley Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 2:02.516 3.064 30 / 32 26 NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki Yamaha Factory Racing 2:02.893 3.441 26 / 36 27 NOZANE, Kohta Yamaha Factory Racing 2:03.052 3.600 33 / 34 NC STONER, Casey Ducati Test Team Unfortunately I did not watch the rest of the coverage.
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# ? Jan 31, 2017 15:13 |
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Spain is still gonna ruin everything
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As the Rev mentioned, Spain is still on top:pre:Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Lead. Gap Laps 1 VIÑALES, Maverick Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 1:59.368 40 / 72 2 MARQUEZ, Marc Repsol Honda Team 1:59.506 0.138 18 / 85 3 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 1:59.553 0.185 9 / 56 4 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 1:59.578 0.210 64 / 67 5 ROSSI, Valentino Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 1:59.589 0.221 50 / 62 6 BAUTISTA, Alvaro Pull&Bear Aspar Team 1:59.628 0.260 10 / 64 7 STONER, Casey Ducati Test Team 1:59.639 0.271 8 / 46 8 CRUTCHLOW, Cal LCR Honda 1:59.728 0.360 67 / 71 9 LORENZO, Jorge Ducati Team 1:59.767 0.399 29 / 66 10 ZARCO, Johann Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:59.772 0.404 42 / 45 11 IANNONE, Andrea Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 2:00.045 0.677 45 / 49 12 RINS, Alex Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 2:00.057 0.689 58 / 60 13 ESPARGARO, Aleix Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:00.108 0.740 21 / 53 14 PETRUCCI, Danilo Octo Pramac Racing 2:00.310 0.942 51 / 53 15 FOLGER, Jonas Monster Yamaha Tech 3 2:00.312 0.944 25 / 54 16 MILLER, Jack Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 2:00.439 1.071 9 / 70 17 ABRAHAM, Karel Pull&Bear Aspar Team 2:00.445 1.077 11 / 38 18 BARBERA, Hector Reale Esponsorama Racing 2:00.537 1.169 15 / 50 19 REDDING, Scott Octo Pramac Racing 2:00.645 1.277 55 / 74 20 BAZ, Loris Reale Esponsorama Racing 2:00.873 1.505 32 / 58 21 SMITH, Bradley Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 2:01.338 1.970 61 / 62 22 LOWES, Sam Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 2:01.341 1.973 7 / 43 23 ESPARGARO, Pol Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 2:01.506 2.138 14 / 67 24 NAKASUGA, Katsuyuki Yamaha Factory Racing 2:01.658 2.290 28 / 30 25 TSUDA, Takuya Suzuki Test Team 2:02.769 3.401 59 / 68 NC NOZANE, Kohta Yamaha Factory Racing NC PIRRO, Michele Ducati Test Team NC RABAT, Tito Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS
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# ? Feb 1, 2017 18:08 |
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I don't think we've seen anything that indicates that Marquez won't win going away. Sure, everything can change but it's not like Rossi is suddenly finding amazing pace or Lorenzo is some kind of world beater on the Ducati. Maybe Vinales can come out of sort of nowhere and compete, but he kind of sucks in the wet, doesn't he?
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builds character posted:I don't think we've seen anything that indicates that Marquez won't win going away. Sure, everything can change but it's not like Rossi is suddenly finding amazing pace or Lorenzo is some kind of world beater on the Ducati. Maybe Vinales can come out of sort of nowhere and compete, but he kind of sucks in the wet, doesn't he? Thats not what your mom said
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# ? Feb 2, 2017 00:24 |
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Jokes on you, thread title, I always book my seats so there's a screen in front of me. Roll on Assen, didn't get to go last year, hoping the weather isnt quite as bad this year, even though it made for an interesting result its horrendous sitting on those plastic seats in the pissing rain. It makes keeping your joints lit a pain in the arse. We'll be sitting around here if any one happens to be going.
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# ? Feb 2, 2017 00:57 |
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Heartening to see Dani caught up so close to the top. Here's hoping that stays, I'd love to see him reliably in the top 5 again. And Lorenzo seems off to a pretty fast start on the Ducati. I'll be at COTA this year for my first-ever MotoGP race. I'll be at turn 15. I have almost no idea what to expect with regards to seeing this sort of thing in person. e: also I'm really glad to see Jonas Folger in MotoGP. I know he's never been a reliably top performer, but not long after I got into motorcycle racing - so '08 or '09 or so - I remember him starting the race at or near dead last and fighting up to top 3 or 5 before crashing out. It was impressive. I have no idea what race that was, or indeed whether or not it was him or somebody else, but whether on false premises or not it made me a Folger fan. I hope he has some good showings. Has anyone ever moved into GP having not been a top performer in the lower classes and been a race winner? Or a more-than-a-fluke podium finisher? Gay Nudist Dad fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Feb 2, 2017 |
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EX250 Type R posted:Thats not what your mom said
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# ? Feb 2, 2017 06:51 |
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Gay Nudist Dad posted:Heartening to see Dani caught up so close to the top. Here's hoping that stays, I'd love to see him reliably in the top 5 again. And Lorenzo seems off to a pretty fast start on the Ducati. Congrats on the seats, bring a hat, sunscreen, and ear plugs. In the "Modern Era" there hasn't been anyone that's not been a consistent top 5 that has done really well in the MotoGP class. Plenty of others the have gone the other direction to age, or injury (I still lament the career that Ben Spies could have had.) Heck even being a top performer at the Moto3 level doesn't guarantee performance at Moto2, case in point Alex Marquez, a Moto3 Champion.
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# ? Feb 2, 2017 07:17 |
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The Paddock Pass podcast guys did an episode this week about the Malaysia tests. https://soundcloud.com/the-paddock-pass-podcast
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Don't know why I hadn't noticed this thread!Skreemer posted:Congrats on the seats, bring a hat, sunscreen, and ear plugs. Ben Spies had like the perfect vortex of everything going wrong. George for a teammate, check. Testing parts on what seemed to be the least reliable yamaha ever, check. Horrible injuries, check. Being american in the post-rossi era, check. Also Danny Kent going to moto2 was...pretty underwhelming. I think part of the problem (which dorna are taking steps to remedy) is the electronics on moto2 bikes are extremely crude. This plus the totally different handling dynamics to GP mean that most of the rookies aren't adequately prepared for the bigger bikes and it's a crapshoot as to who will turn out to mesh with the GP bikes and who won't. It also helps to land on something other than a honda, see: Rabat. Hopefully the triumph bikes bring them closer into line with GP. But then they'll complain that moto3's tiptoing corner speed style is too far divorced from the power and crazyness of the two bigger classes
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 23:04 |
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Slavvy posted:Don't know why I hadn't noticed this thread! Spies had to have the least amount of luck ever. Snapping the rear suspension on the way into the corkscrew at Leguna Seca etc. and getting spat off the bike every few races does not make for a long career. Danny Kent is another one, completely dominated the Moto3 class to be completely lackluster in Moto2. I hope the changes they want to introduce make the racing a little more exciting. Though I hope they leave Moto3 alone. For a while there, there were enough riders doing well that it was anyone's guess who was going to come out on top. As the season progresses it's nice to see the teams and riders that can stay the most consistent.
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Testing is in Australia this week. This time around it's just the factory racers and no test riders. We're seeing some close times, I'm hoping the lead gaps aren't too different when they go racing for the top 10:pre:Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Lead. Gap Laps 1 MARQUEZ, Marc Repsol Honda Team 1:29.497 53 / 68 2 ROSSI, Valentino Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 1:29.683 0.186 76 / 77 3 IANNONE, Andrea Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 1:29.926 0.429 68 / 70 4 VIÑALES, Maverick Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 1:29.989 0.492 26 / 64 5 CRUTCHLOW, Cal LCR Honda 1:30.065 0.568 61 / 61 6 PETRUCCI, Danilo Octo Pramac Racing 1:30.262 0.765 87 / 87 7 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 1:30.281 0.784 13 / 55 8 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 1:30.410 0.913 16 / 64 9 MILLER, Jack Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 1:30.426 0.929 80 / 82 10 FOLGER, Jonas Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:30.578 1.081 30 / 62 11 LORENZO, Jorge Ducati Team 1:30.631 1.134 33 / 61 12 BAUTISTA, Alvaro Pull&Bear Aspar Team 1:30.770 1.273 24 / 68 13 BARBERA, Hector Reale Esponsorama Racing 1:30.771 1.274 7 / 51 14 ESPARGARO, Aleix Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 1:30.802 1.305 26 / 28 15 ZARCO, Johann Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:30.867 1.370 77 / 80 16 ABRAHAM, Karel Pull&Bear Aspar Team 1:31.179 1.682 17 / 61 17 ESPARGARO, Pol Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 1:31.200 1.703 54 / 59 18 BAZ, Loris Reale Esponsorama Racing 1:31.249 1.752 56 / 60 19 RINS, Alex Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 1:31.432 1.935 66 / 66 20 REDDING, Scott Octo Pramac Racing 1:31.755 2.258 33 / 59 21 LOWES, Sam Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 1:32.307 2.810 15 / 35 22 SMITH, Bradley Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 1:32.690 3.193 43 / 57
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Day 2 of testing in Australia:pre:Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Lead. Laps 1 VIÑALES, Maverick Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 1:28.847 21 / 80 2 MARQUEZ, Marc Repsol Honda Team 1:29.309 0.462 20 / 107 3 CRUTCHLOW, Cal LCR Honda 1:29.325 0.478 28 / 80 4 BAUTISTA, Alvaro Pull&Bear Aspar Team 1:29.411 0.564 42 / 86 5 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 1:29.483 0.636 32 / 55 6 ESPARGARO, Aleix Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 1:29.501 0.654 18 / 69 7 FOLGER, Jonas Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:29.664 0.817 29 / 65 8 ROSSI, Valentino Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 1:29.674 0.827 18 / 70 9 RINS, Alex Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 1:29.802 0.955 68 / 80 10 MILLER, Jack Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 1:29.838 0.991 36 / 83 11 ZARCO, Johann Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:29.880 1.033 84 / 88 12 IANNONE, Andrea Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 1:29.947 1.100 19 / 72 13 ABRAHAM, Karel Pull&Bear Aspar Team 1:30.142 1.295 20 / 73 14 PETRUCCI, Danilo Octo Pramac Racing 1:30.150 1.303 64 / 65 15 LORENZO, Jorge Ducati Team 1:30.197 1.350 32 / 64 16 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 1:30.245 1.398 38 / 40 17 BARBERA, Hector Reale Esponsorama Racing 1:30.352 1.505 18 / 62 18 REDDING, Scott Octo Pramac Racing 1:30.435 1.588 83 / 90 19 ESPARGARO, Pol Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 1:30.645 1.798 24 / 59 20 BAZ, Loris Reale Esponsorama Racing 1:30.852 2.005 34 / 53 21 LOWES, Sam Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 1:30.895 2.048 34 / 64 22 SMITH, Bradley Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 1:31.704 2.857 35 / 81
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Skreemer posted:Day 2 of testing in Australia: Not pictured: Marquez' untouchable race pace. He's gonna win again, George and maverick will fizzle and Rossi will continue his slide to retirement.
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Nice to see the two rookies on Tech3 already in the top 10ish.
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Day3 of testing, Rossi is going the wrong way, Jorge is finally getting some speed on, and Maverick is tops for the second day in a row. I wonder if Rossi is still sick, He didn't pull nearly as many laps as he usually does. pre:Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Lead. Gap Laps 1 VIÑALES, Maverick Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 1:28.549 13 / 101 2 MARQUEZ, Marc Repsol Honda Team 1:28.843 0.294 14 / 96 3 PEDROSA, Dani Repsol Honda Team 1:29.033 0.484 61 / 65 4 FOLGER, Jonas Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:29.042 0.493 12 / 63 5 CRUTCHLOW, Cal LCR Honda 1:29.101 0.552 72 / 85 6 RINS, Alex Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 1:29.103 0.554 60 / 66 7 DOVIZIOSO, Andrea Ducati Team 1:29.248 0.699 9 / 73 8 LORENZO, Jorge Ducati Team 1:29.342 0.793 61 / 75 9 MILLER, Jack Team EG 0,0 Marc VDS 1:29.358 0.809 18 / 93 10 ESPARGARO, Aleix Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 1:29.361 0.812 61 / 65 11 ROSSI, Valentino Movistar Yamaha MotoGP 1:29.470 0.921 13 / 52 12 IANNONE, Andrea Team SUZUKI ECSTAR 1:29.547 0.998 63 / 77 13 PETRUCCI, Danilo Octo Pramac Racing 1:29.615 1.066 50 / 57 14 ZARCO, Johann Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1:29.670 1.121 10 / 87 15 BARBERA, Hector Reale Esponsorama Racing 1:29.791 1.242 82 / 83 16 ESPARGARO, Pol Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 1:29.857 1.308 62 / 62 17 BAZ, Loris Reale Esponsorama Racing 1:29.977 1.428 64 / 71 18 SMITH, Bradley Red Bull KTM Factory Racing 1:29.978 1.429 73 / 73 19 BAUTISTA, Alvaro Pull&Bear Aspar Team 1:29.984 1.435 7 / 74 20 REDDING, Scott Octo Pramac Racing 1:30.005 1.456 47 / 74 21 LOWES, Sam Aprilia Racing Team Gresini 1:30.200 1.651 29 / 57 22 ABRAHAM, Karel Pull&Bear Aspar Team 1:30.452 1.903 24 / 61
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Skreemer posted:Day3 of testing, Rossi is going the wrong way, Jorge is finally getting some speed on, and Maverick is tops for the second day in a row. Sick of these drat kids on his lawn. Because he's old. Get it? It'll be interesting to see what Vinales can do in the rain. If it's not better than last year he's not winning anything, but if it is he might actually be in contention.
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# ? Feb 17, 2017 19:32 |
93 is the new 46 25 is the new 99 But 46 and 99 are still here and it feels weird. IRL eras don't just switch over from one to another like they do in the history books it turns out. This is like the time people started wearing girl pants and painting their hair purple but goths were still there on the scene looking awkward.
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KTM now has a factory team in every class. They've been doing well in Moto3, I know GP and Moto2 are new classes for them, but I hope they do well.
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Skreemer posted:KTM now has a factory team in every class. They've been doing well in Moto3, I know GP and Moto2 are new classes for them, but I hope they do well. "Well" in motogp will be finishing ahead of Aprilia and one or more of the satellite teams. I think they have no chance to podium this year, let alone win a race.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 04:01 |
I can't decide whether aprilia or KTM will be the first ones to pack their poo poo up and go home when they keep spending squillions only to barely make the top ten for the next few years. They'll be the new growth trying to reach the sun through the branches of the hundred year oaks already in the class. Suzuki were smart/lucky and got in early enough (in terms of the new 'fairer' rules) that they had no real low-level competition so now they have the chance to attract decent riders and justify a bigger budget to their parent company. Gut tells me aprilia's half-assery will get them out quickest. Long term IMO there'll be another team exodus and drastic fall in grid numbers because with the top ten populated mostly by factory teams, the satellites will get no recognition unless they adopt some sort of best-of-the-rest trophy or something.
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Slavvy posted:I can't decide whether aprilia or KTM will be the first ones to pack their poo poo up and go home when they keep spending squillions only to barely make the top ten for the next few years. They'll be the new growth trying to reach the sun through the branches of the hundred year oaks already in the class. I'd put my money on Aprilia bailing first. KTM's been good in Moto3 and (from what I know, I don't follow it) very successful in off-road disciplines. Hell, they even race cars now. But, mostly, they have RedBull money. RedBull seems okay with both spending money on frivolous but exciting ventures (ice skate cross racing?) but also gets the ups-and-downs of racing (F1). I know Aprilia has had good results in WSBK in the last few years but I just don't get the sense that Piaggio has much taste for racing. Or spending money. I mean, this is historic, but Piaggio bailed out of the US scooter market pretty much as soon as the Japanese started selling scooters in the '80s rather than develop and sell something other than the '70s-era, '40s-derived scooters they were selling at the time. These days, I bet Piaggio sees the vast majority of their money from high-volume/low-margin scooters, whereas motorcycles - mostly prestige motorcycles - are the bread-and-butter for KTM's brand. So KTM has a bigger, better, and more successful racing program, a brand-wide sponsor from the same country with deep pockets and a willingness to spend, and more marketing reliance on having winning motorcycles. I expect KTM to be around for a while, even if they're not successful for a few seasons.
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# ? Feb 22, 2017 06:56 |
Yeah I agree with pretty much everything. Priller like to brag about how racing is in their DNA etc but they only really seem to like going racing when it's either cheap or they have an uncontested advantage which lets them win easily without spending a shitload of money. Every time in the past that they've encountered difficulty they've just packed it in; I don't see why this time will be any different. They pulled out of sbk to 'focus exclusively on motogp' (actually in a whinge about the rule changes taking away their bike's genetic advantages), rallied piaggio's enormous resources to get together six dudes (maybe nine? I can't remember but it's literally single digits) to do it with and are now wholly dedicated to the factory effort (actually gresini doing all the gruntwork and some guy from aprilia just screaming at them over the phone).
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On a timely note, apparently Stefan Pierer of KTM is both not a fan of Honda and willing to throw some shade. MotoMatters, as ever: https://motomatters.com/analysis/2017/02/22/our_most_hated_rival_ktm_s_long_feud.html quote:He boasted of KTM passing BMW in terms of sales, adding that beating them in racing would be hard, "because they don't race any more". He spoke of competing against the Japanese manufacturers. "We love racing, and we love beating the Japanese manufacturers." Good little history lessen there, too. In addition to some fierce on-track competition between KTM and Honda in the smaller classes, apparently there's some backroom drama, too.
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# ? Feb 23, 2017 03:08 |
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WSBK opens in Australia this weekend: Practice1: Practice2:
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# ? Feb 24, 2017 16:47 |
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WSBK Race 1 in Australia completed. Not a bad race, good to see Marco Melandri and Alex Lowes fight for first a few laps.
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# ? Feb 25, 2017 08:09 |
So how the gently caress does the new grid setup work if you dnf? Previously melandri would've started from the front row again and have a chance to make amends. Now what? Does he start from last?
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Slavvy posted:So how the gently caress does the new grid setup work if you dnf? Previously melandri would've started from the front row again and have a chance to make amends. Now what? Does he start from last? The winner from Race 1 will start the next race from ninth position whilst the fourth position finisher will start from Pole. quote:Following the enthralling opening race fans were treated to at the Phillip Island Grand Prix Circuit, we will now see Alex Lowes (Pata Yamaha Official WorldSBK Team) start from pole position as race winner Jonathan Rea (Kawasaki Racing Team), will fight through the pack from ninth. TL;DR Marco Melandri Starts 10th based on the qualifying (I mean "SuperPole") lap time, behind all of the winners from yesterday. Skreemer fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Feb 25, 2017 |
# ? Feb 25, 2017 21:41 |
Right. So rae wins the race and his reward is starting in ninth. Melandri DNF's and his reward is starting immediately behind rae. I understand what they're trying to do, this is just a loving retarded way of doing it that nobody really thought through. I thought dorna were spanish, not italian.
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# ? Feb 25, 2017 22:30 |
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Slavvy posted:Right. So rae wins the race and his reward is starting in ninth. Melandri DNF's and his reward is starting immediately behind rae. Anything so it's not another Kawasaki/British 1/2 in the championship this year.
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# ? Feb 25, 2017 23:23 |
but chaz can chaz all over the Kawasaki without having bullshit grid structure to help him.
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# ? Feb 26, 2017 00:40 |
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WSBK Race 2: WSSP Race: Anthony West comes in 3rd in the WSSP race using a borrowed engine and a slapped together chassis. Take a look at the WSSP finish 1st/2nd gap. Skreemer fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Feb 26, 2017 |
# ? Feb 26, 2017 07:13 |