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Don't know why I hadn't noticed this thread!Skreemer posted:Congrats on the seats, bring a hat, sunscreen, and ear plugs. Ben Spies had like the perfect vortex of everything going wrong. George for a teammate, check. Testing parts on what seemed to be the least reliable yamaha ever, check. Horrible injuries, check. Being american in the post-rossi era, check. Also Danny Kent going to moto2 was...pretty underwhelming. I think part of the problem (which dorna are taking steps to remedy) is the electronics on moto2 bikes are extremely crude. This plus the totally different handling dynamics to GP mean that most of the rookies aren't adequately prepared for the bigger bikes and it's a crapshoot as to who will turn out to mesh with the GP bikes and who won't. It also helps to land on something other than a honda, see: Rabat. Hopefully the triumph bikes bring them closer into line with GP. But then they'll complain that moto3's tiptoing corner speed style is too far divorced from the power and crazyness of the two bigger classes
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Skreemer posted:Day 2 of testing in Australia: Not pictured: Marquez' untouchable race pace. He's gonna win again, George and maverick will fizzle and Rossi will continue his slide to retirement.
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Feb 16, 2017 19:32
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93 is the new 46 25 is the new 99 But 46 and 99 are still here and it feels weird. IRL eras don't just switch over from one to another like they do in the history books it turns out. This is like the time people started wearing girl pants and painting their hair purple but goths were still there on the scene looking awkward.
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Feb 18, 2017 04:13
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I can't decide whether aprilia or KTM will be the first ones to pack their poo poo up and go home when they keep spending squillions only to barely make the top ten for the next few years. They'll be the new growth trying to reach the sun through the branches of the hundred year oaks already in the class. Suzuki were smart/lucky and got in early enough (in terms of the new 'fairer' rules) that they had no real low-level competition so now they have the chance to attract decent riders and justify a bigger budget to their parent company. Gut tells me aprilia's half-assery will get them out quickest. Long term IMO there'll be another team exodus and drastic fall in grid numbers because with the top ten populated mostly by factory teams, the satellites will get no recognition unless they adopt some sort of best-of-the-rest trophy or something.
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Feb 22, 2017 04:11
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Yeah I agree with pretty much everything. Priller like to brag about how racing is in their DNA etc but they only really seem to like going racing when it's either cheap or they have an uncontested advantage which lets them win easily without spending a shitload of money. Every time in the past that they've encountered difficulty they've just packed it in; I don't see why this time will be any different. They pulled out of sbk to 'focus exclusively on motogp' (actually in a whinge about the rule changes taking away their bike's genetic advantages), rallied piaggio's enormous resources to get together six dudes (maybe nine? I can't remember but it's literally single digits) to do it with and are now wholly dedicated to the factory effort (actually gresini doing all the gruntwork and some guy from aprilia just screaming at them over the phone).
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Feb 22, 2017 07:48
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So how the gently caress does the new grid setup work if you dnf? Previously melandri would've started from the front row again and have a chance to make amends. Now what? Does he start from last?
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Feb 25, 2017 20:24
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Right. So rae wins the race and his reward is starting in ninth. Melandri DNF's and his reward is starting immediately behind rae. I understand what they're trying to do, this is just a loving retarded way of doing it that nobody really thought through. I thought dorna were spanish, not italian.
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Feb 25, 2017 22:30
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 but chaz can chaz all over the Kawasaki without having bullshit grid structure to help him.
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Feb 26, 2017 00:40
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Davies never goes well at phillip island and sentul is a paperclip track where lots of straights are joined by slow corners and this plays very much to the strengths of the kawasaki, namely straight line power and braking stability. I'm still picking the chazzmaster for the championship. Davies was also struggling with a sticky throttle after that crash despite their attempts to fix it.
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Mar 14, 2017 20:15
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Fenati strikes me as that guy with a shitload of adrenaline-fuelled speed but not the brains to turn that into a championship. It'll only get worse as he moves up through the classes.
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Mar 20, 2017 03:18
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builds character posted:Is Vinales going to win it all? No, he's not. Hope this helps.
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Mar 21, 2017 05:10
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I think I missed the part where 10hp minibikes have any relevance to motogp.
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Mar 21, 2017 05:47
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Wait you watch F1 on purpose?
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Mar 25, 2017 04:11
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loving Iannone I wanted to see your penis in the sweaty faces of the spaniards, oval office. Awesome reace though. Zarco's a beast.
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Mar 27, 2017 09:56
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EX250 Type R posted:
God yes. He's loving marvellous and his five laps of fury exceeded my wildest expectations. Calling it now: Sam Lowes is taking Rabat's wooden spoon this year.
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Mar 28, 2017 07:58
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Wtf is happening with these practice sessions, why are all the poo poo tier teams in the top ten.
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Apr 7, 2017 21:42
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algebra testes posted:Back in the day, yes. But I am unsure about the modern 4-stroke era. The Aprilia rotax was definitely a triple, was also the first one to have pneumatic valves. Also the 211v was a v5 back when they let you have more cylinders in exchange for more weight. I don't see how the mandatory five hard laps make any difference at all, everyone was shooting for a time at the end of fp2 on soft tyres and both 25 and 93 performed as normal.
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Apr 7, 2017 23:46
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The question thread would probably get you a lot more replies.
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Apr 8, 2017 04:34
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BitcoinRockefeller posted:I can't find the chart browsing on the phone but I'm 90% sure the weight categories in 2002 were for 2,3,4, and 6 cylinders and honda was able to go with the max 4 cylinder weight because no one accounted for anyone making a wacky v5 engine.  Skreemer posted:Pedrosa, Rossi, and Lorenzo had to go through Q1. Lorenzo was 6th in Q1 meaning he didn't make it to Q2. In Q2 Pedrosa got 5th and Rossi got 7th. Marquez got pole. Ye olde ducke must be absolutely exceptional on a drying rack is what I'm getting from qualifying.
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Apr 8, 2017 21:31
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No thanks, I'm still convinced it's gonna be a Marquez championship. Also: lolrenzo.
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Apr 10, 2017 20:01
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Iannone got penalised for a jump start, Lorenzo crashing was his own dumb fault.
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Apr 11, 2017 19:36
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builds character posted:Probably Marquez, but if Vinales wins then slavvy has to get a tastefully done #25 tattoo on his bicep. Don't paint me wrong, i like cutie vinales as much as the next teenage girl, but i know over-hype when i see it so I'm still hoping to look shrewdly cunning by the end of the season by predicting a Marquez title this early.
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Apr 19, 2017 20:27
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algebra testes posted:tragic comedy of errors that eventuated? Surprisingly, not the worst thing I've heard Nicky's championship year called.
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Apr 21, 2017 09:25
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Good to see george getting back in the mix too, his race pace is poo poo but at least his great starts combined with his drag-racer bike should hopefully lead to some interesting poo poo.
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Apr 23, 2017 05:54
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Zarco  builds character posted:Agreed. I wonder which factory ride he's getting next year. I can't imagine him staying on a satellite team but if you're yamaha don't you want to keep him as long as you can because Rossi's getting old? Maybe even set up some sort of arrangement like Crutchlow has? Zarco isn't going anywhere next year because he's on a two-year contract like most people. I hope and dream that when rossi throws in the towel zarco can take his seat but replacing one of the dumbledores at suzuki is a more realistic prospect. COTA sucks balls because it's a multi-line car track and has nothing to offer bikes, it's also got way too many corners and is generally too texas in every measure. Also if rossi is on PED's the mcguiness is a literal cyborg deliberately engineered to look like a pasty unfit englishman.
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Apr 25, 2017 02:08
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I suspect most people who disagree with the penalty aren't diehard 46ers but rather are afraid of the racing getting too rulesy and f1-like and micro penalties for micro infractions are the start of that slippery slope.
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Apr 27, 2017 03:24
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Been thinking about penalty chat w.r.t. exceeding track limits ala Rossi. We have transponders on all the bikes and standardised electronics. Why can't they set up a GPS nerf-zone of some kind? Stray further than a meter beyond the track limit and your pit limiter kicks in.
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May 2, 2017 20:23
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Well if the run-off isn't grippy tarmac, you don't need to cut their power because they're already in the gravel/grass and have bigger poo poo to deal with. Seems like limiting throttle opening or revs would be pretty straightforward from a hardware standpoint and would still let them cruise along without abruptly losing everything, yet still making track shortcuts non-profitable. What you're describing is what I initially thought of which is what sent me down this track, you don't need anything physically boggy if you just slow the bike down. You'd prevent racing incidents by allowing a metre-wide safety margin with a yellow line showing the limit. If we can have self-driving cars that don't immediately kill people, I would think the engineering involved in implementing something like this in a controlled environment where every parameter is known and easy to define would be trivial. Take away seamless trans and make the teams all contribute one season's rental of those things and it'd pay for itself. Slavvy fucked around with this message at 21:57 on May 2, 2017 |
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The sector thing is based on transponders, I'm talking about GPS which is a lot more accurate and therefore banned for engine mapping. And I'm not talking auto braking, I'm just suggesting you lose the last quarter throttle or something. It's entirely feasible to do this in a smooth way that doesn't abruptly chop the power but ok. This type of thinking is why we'll end up with bullshit micro penalties everywhere instead of looking for more effective solutions to a pretty simple problem.
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May 3, 2017 19:58
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It's enough of a problem that one of the tracks (misano?) has special red plating outside of the normal rumble strip on the exit of one corner because they keep breaking the track limit and penalties are handed out tennis-style for going past the line. Moto3 had a really bad run last year where a good half-dozen riders were penalised for exceeding limits.
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May 3, 2017 21:58
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nsaP posted:GPS isn't accurate to the meter. More like 3 or 4 in the best conditions. Genuinely wasn't aware of this, if that's the case why is it banned for engine mapping purposes corner-by-corner?
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May 4, 2017 03:43
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Trying to accomplish? I guess I want to prevent the vortex of bullshit opened up with retroactive penalties that are always going to be unfair in some way or another. Your 23 people idea wouldn't work in real time I wouldn't have thought.
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I'm not entirely certain what this is but I'm very certain it's fantastic. E: autocorrect 
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May 5, 2017 04:16
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Yeah a tyre bingo race on a track he likes fits well with the idea he'll be strong some places and poo poo everywhere else.
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May 7, 2017 20:22
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gently caress vinales, when rossi finally dies of a heart attack just stick zarco on the bike and get another string of championships and/or fatality. e: rossi took the blame for being slow but he also said he experienced a massive rear wheel vibration in the last few laps, and the way he dropped like a rock supports this. I think both of them got hosed by their teams/michelin/bike architecture because the track temp was like 20 degrees hotter in the race than the morning warm-up and the michelins seem super sensitive to minor temperature changes
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May 9, 2017 02:34
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Guy Martin dusts off his old bridesmaid's dress.
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May 11, 2017 20:37
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They have to use a spec ECU with an emphasis on rider aids as a safety measure instead of a tyre conservation tool which has really dented the factory teams' advantage. That's part of it, the other part is the massively inconsistent tyres giving advantage to some bikes/riding styles over others at any given track. All the big names, Rossi included, have rider coaches because it's useful having another rider's input on what they're seeing you do on track vs everyone else. That helps them spot stuff that the engineers miss/aren't aware of.
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May 12, 2017 00:24
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The worst thing about this is that he lost a wheel balance weight and dropped like a rock in what may be the final race of his career. So Nicky Hayden it hurts.
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May 17, 2017 23:05
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Race 2 was loving carnage a dude even pitted and restarted for points.
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He's massively playing up his injuries. Disappointed from zarco, his q1 was great so don't know wtf happened.
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