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All computers do is add numbers to each other and sometimes take them away if you want to break it down like that? Tbh that's basically how I write a story, start with a blank page write some kind of actiony sentence then keep writing sentences that fit until I get to the word count. That said, chatgpt does tend to produce extremely mediocre fiction like you'd get from a clever twelve year old, but if it works for you as a tool, even one to tell you what not to do, go for it imo
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# ¿ Aug 2, 2023 21:33 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 02:28 |
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Junpei posted:Oh someone made a tumblr post I liked using the Chinese Room experiment as a comparison. https://www.sabinasz.net/why-chinese-room-argument-flawed/ This is a good breakdown of the arguments for and against
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2023 01:04 |
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Thranguy posted:The bigger problem with the Chinese Room is that it proves too much: everything it says about the incapacities of machine intelligence is necessarily just as true of the biological kind. that's my issue, though it's hard to imagine a more perfect demonstration of the thought experiment than chat gpt.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2023 03:22 |
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change my name posted:Just write your books, using AI won't make you a better writer and the end result will be bad its a technology, like a word processor or a camera. use it if it's useful, don't if it's not.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2023 03:37 |
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Fat Jesus posted:shut up nerds
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2023 04:58 |
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https://www.penguin.co.nz/books/extremely-loud-and-incredibly-close-9780141012698
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2023 06:59 |
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If you're going to write a good story with ai it will take work, I've tried a couple of times and given up because it is easier for me to just write it myself than cajole the llm into making something worth reading. I think photo vs painting is a decent enough parallel, any idiot can point and click, especially with modern cameras, and get very good results. For writing, there are absolutely people who think handwriting has the soul that computer documents lack. though tbf they're selling pens, sooo
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2023 05:01 |
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Beezus posted:Alright, got a synopsis drafted that still needs work, but I'm going to table it for the time being since the reading and advice indicate that what I really need to be focusing on is the hook/pitch, which isn't quite the same thing. post it in here if you want feedback, it's generally p high quality.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2023 21:40 |
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That reads very well, want to know more, smooth prose, not too much or too little detail.
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# ¿ Aug 18, 2023 06:41 |
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Wungus posted:It's true, you'll fix the writing in any book if you give the protagonist the ability to fly. Every book that doesn't have a flying protagonist has broken writing. when a protagonist can't fly, every other other character in the book should be asking 'when is the protagonist going to fly'
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2023 14:24 |
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Leng posted:Brb gotta go rewrite the end of my current WIP so EVERYONE can fly. Great Expectations (of Pip being able to fly)
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2023 00:48 |
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LiterallyATomato posted:Mods!? Yes, the mod forums are all in comic sans
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2023 20:15 |
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Done.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2023 19:52 |
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Demesne
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2023 19:06 |
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Wungus posted:I don't know what a gerund is and absolutely refuse to learn. That way sounds like a way to learn about bad things that suck rear end.
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2023 02:36 |
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Those are all very obscure, even control. I would think the purpose of a comp in a query is to give an easy way in, which that doesn't do. As a personal guide it's fine.
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2023 02:34 |
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Oh sorry, I thought you meant they were all games? In that case ignore, I was presuming the first two were games and I'm a big enough nerd that if I haven't heard of a game it's p obscure lol, if they are books that's fine. I'd still assume Control isn't well known, but as a single reference it's probs fine, just have a few words for people who think video games are all Tetris and frogger?
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# ¿ Nov 6, 2023 03:19 |
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Naw that's classic
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2023 08:53 |
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Junpei posted:Probably a bit old hat, but: Ridley from the Alien movies (or at least the first one) was originally a male character, but they swapped it, and they created one of the most beloved female protags of all time. they were all ungendered.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2023 07:32 |
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Also just swapping in someone without really thinking about it is exactly what people are saying they don't want to do.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2023 07:44 |
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Banks' Use of Weapons does that, or something like it. My only caveat would be the pulp fiction rule which is that a story with time fuckery should be at least reasonably entertaining if told in normal order.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2023 21:03 |
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Thunderdome is not a writing panacea but it's great for that kind of issue. Get the prompt, write bad, get another prompt, write a little better.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2023 07:13 |
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I got accepted for a novel writing masters course, so I guess I'm writing a novel next year! Ty thunderdome
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2023 23:13 |
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sometimes it's ok to just have people explain it, and when it's someone's reputation then it makes perfect sense to do it that way.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2024 20:36 |
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FPyat posted:I'm writing a short piece that flits from point of view to point of view so that no individual is given narrative priority. 200-300 words about one character, then on to another. Thing is that I'm not sure what to compare it to for my writing group. I can name television series and novels whose structures are inspiring me, but I want to be able to point them to short stories and novellas. I'm sure I've read things that resemble what I'm writing, but I can't recall any of them immediately. Edit: Well, there are two stories I can put a name to, but I don't want to have to explain Warhammer 40K to my group. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/22_Short_Films_About_Springfield
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2024 19:38 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:To be honest I don't see why your writing group needs a famous work to compare it to. If it gets to shopping it to agents then you'll want a hook of that nature. But with the group, your writing stands on its own for better or worse IMO. But really this, I mean you described it perfectly well. Its not like you need an elevator pitch for them to invest in it.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2024 19:39 |
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Gaius Marius posted:Magnolia with less frogs, or more. This is basically all fiction
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2024 00:32 |
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Sailor Viy posted:OK, here's a first draft of a query for my novel. All feedback is appreciated. i think that's fairly tight, and it's something I'd want to read. Maybe just add 'and the things we do when blah blah blah' (or whatever) at the end of the first line, it looks like the flood is a premise rather than what the books about.
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2024 00:59 |
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DropTheAnvil posted:Are you Hannu Rajaniemi, author of the Quantum Thief? God drat do I love that novel, and how it introduces concepts that I did not fully understand, but kept the plot moving. he's the baru man, the barunator
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2024 23:07 |
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Whirling posted:People have commented that I should be more careful about my grammar because I occasionally mess up tenses and so on, but I'm not sure where/how to relearn the terrible English language after years of gaming and really dumb forums posts have driven its rules out of my mind. I disagree; if you're making mistakes, then you should work to fix them. I mean no-one is going to die if you don't, but getting tense right is pretty basic.
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2024 19:52 |
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Sounds cool go for it
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# ¿ Jan 31, 2024 03:32 |
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General Battuta posted:Well poo poo! That looks great!
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# ¿ Feb 3, 2024 22:02 |
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Yeah sometimes you just want to be penn and teller because it fits what you want to do, as with all 'rules' if you break it do it because you choose to, do it hard, and dgaf
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2024 04:05 |
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I've spent the past couple years writing video game reviews for fun on reddit, as well as mushy romances on another site. I've read the likes of McKee and How Not to Write a Novel to help recognize the pitfalls in the process of writing, and attended a group writing class before covid. After years spent dilly-dallying I've decided to aim for a modest draft of 50k, then further polish and expand as needed. The major plot points I've nailed down eons ago, I'm writing the chapters out of order depending on mood. Half planned, half written on the fly. this is solid, no notes but i wrote a flash a while back that is amusingly similar and it's making me lol a bit, irish priests finding out something unearthly is a robust genre niche i guess
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2024 20:38 |
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Uranium Phoenix posted:If you're planning on selling anything, you might want to read successful examples of the genre you plan on writing. Setting aside the 'litrpg' part (this doesn't read at all like litrpg), this reads like someone trying to write fantasy who has never read fantasy.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2024 21:28 |
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Junpei posted:Does anyone have a document or area full of small ideas, not big enough to make into full books but good enough to save an interesting line or a funny gag or a minor character for if you need it? you have the first line, ctrl c ctrl v little buddy
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2024 01:09 |
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I love my Chromebook, great battery life, can't play game for poo poo but will let you watch YouTube or whatever, turns on instantly. Lenovo Yoga 300e gen 4.
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# ¿ May 1, 2024 03:54 |
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mewse posted:Curious about writing on a chromebook - just type stuff into google docs? Yeah! It handles on/offline pretty smoothly.
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# ¿ May 1, 2024 20:20 |
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# ¿ May 12, 2024 02:28 |
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General Battuta posted:I love POV swaps but I have to admit my last few books have suffered badly from wordcount bloat caused by having too many POVs. So watch out for that if you tend to go long. still stalled halfway through exordia because of all the pov shifts tbh
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