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sexpot posted:Obama wasn't anywhere near "liberal" and neither are most elected Democrats
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I've found a lot of people anxious to move on from Obamaism than I ever saw Republicans anxious to move on from Dubbyaism in 2008, so far I think he's generally well regarded but it's plain as day to everybody that his approach is not the way forward and, in fact, was not the correct approach even then
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Epic High Five posted:I've found a lot of people anxious to move on from Obamaism than I ever saw Republicans anxious to move on from Dubbyaism in 2008, so far probably because obamaism is functionally identical to dubbyaism, only an additional 8 years beyond the sell-by date
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Epic High Five posted:I've found a lot of people anxious to move on from Obamaism than I ever saw Republicans anxious to move on from Dubbyaism in 2008, so far Moving on from Obamaism is basically a measured and reasoned acknowledgment that being measured and reasoned isn't going to do poo poo.
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deadgoon posted:even when trump fails it's not going to convince republicans that republican ideology is to blame, they're just going to believe that trump wasn't the real republican he claimed to be I'm not a fan of Trump or Republicans but tbf Trump is as close to any Republican ideology as my dick is to a hot girl, which is not very, and not in a long time  https://twitter.com/karenhorvot/status/822890012043833346
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deadgoon posted:even when trump fails it's not going to convince republicans that republican ideology is to blame, they're just going to believe that trump wasn't the real republican he claimed to be hey man, thanks for this loving post
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sexpot posted:Obama wasn't anywhere near "liberal" and neither are most elected Democrats Flesh Forge posted:I'm not a fan of Trump or Republicans but tbf Trump is as close to any Republican ideology as my dick is to a hot girl, which is not very, and not in a long time
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Epic High Five posted:I hope it tanks the stock market and they are forced to send their kids to public school *2018ish voice* What are public schools?
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Slamhound posted:Republicans never wanted to move on from Dubyaism because they wallowed in it. They just kept silent afterwards because it was an abject and humiliating failure, and they were eager for anyone who could bring it back , i.e. Trump. *leans into microphone* Wrong!
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BUSH 2112 posted:meh, making fun of these people doesn't make someone an rear end in a top hat. it's possible to feel bad for people's self-inflicted misfortunes and hope for the best for them, while still laughing at their terrible judgment because a literal child could tell that trump would be a terrible president. I have a lot of friends who are grade school teachers. One day one of them started sending me snaps of some writing exercise to the presidential candidates. Every single one of them read along the lines of "dear mr trump please become president and build the wall and keep all the illegals out or we'll be doomed" Come to think of it I don't think I've ever met an inherently liberal/smart kid. Jedi Knight Luigi has issued a correction as of 15:24 on Feb 5, 2017 |
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Ayatollah Hermione posted:probably because obamaism is functionally identical to dubbyaism, only an additional 8 years beyond the sell-by date both parties r same y even vote ya know *goes bankrupt from 'pre-existing' lung cancer*
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:I have a lot of friends who are grade school teachers. One day one of them started sending me snaps of some writing exercise to the presidential candidates. most kids just have the same politics as their parents, if your in a deep red area this isn't surprising
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Feb 5, 2017 15:41
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Fallen Hamprince posted:both parties r same y even vote ya know *goes bankrupt from 'pre-existing' lung cancer* remind me how many bankers or torturerers obama prosecuted
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Ayatollah Hermione posted:remind me how many bankers or torturerers obama prosecuted idk dude how many wmd programs did he make up to invade a country for no reason? how many recessions did he let happen? it actually makes a real material difference to a lot of people whether the person in office is someone like bush or someone like obama and if you don't realize that its probably because you're the kind of person who's going to be just fine under trump
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Ayatollah Hermione posted:remind me how many bankers or torturerers obama prosecuted I think there are other differences between political parties and theories beyond "number of torturers prosecuted" like nobody's trying to argue that we have a hard left and center right party or something, but it's also disingenuous to suggest that republicans would have come up with the ACA (since literally the first thing they set about doing after the election was repealing it) or given executive orders saying government contractors can't discriminate against homos
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Agean90 posted:most kids just have the same politics as their parents, if your in a deep red area this isn't surprising The kids in question live: Northern Illinois Denver area Minneapolis area Get ready for another generation of uncritical thinkers.
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the difference is namely whether people die due to absolutely malicious and predatory insurance plans that don't work (instead of expensive ones that actually work) and lack of medical care resulting from it it is pretty amazing that the ACA being shitcanned will result in the wholesale death of the R electorate and they know this hence the handwringing in the GOP
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Ayatollah Hermione posted:remind me how many bankers or torturerers obama prosecuted you should be ashamed to be this stupid
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:the difference is namely whether people die due to absolutely malicious and predatory insurance plans that don't work (instead of expensive ones that actually work) and lack of medical care resulting from it this will absolutely happen and it will be a horrifying bloodbath. the people in charge just don't seem to get that healthcare is absolutely crucial to a happy population and just kinda disregard how important it is until it's too late.
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*extremely president voice* "I hereby find u, goldie mcsachs, guilty of capitalism, and sentence you to 300 years gitmo"
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:the difference is namely whether people die due to absolutely malicious and predatory insurance plans that don't work (instead of expensive ones that actually work) and lack of medical care resulting from it not only that but most people like most of the things obamacare did what they dont like is that obamas name is on it because hes a niggDEMOCRAT
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:The kids in question live: I mean I don't think that gauging political ideologies in the second grade is a good idea but then again I've been trying to become a velociraptor for years
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:The kids in question live: newsflash, the suburbs are filled with upper middle class white republicans who are scared of brown ppl
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Business Gorillas posted:I mean I don't think that gauging political ideologies in the second grade is a good idea but then again I've been trying to become a velociraptor for years My dude I highly doubt growing up in he 90s will be anything like growing up today. These kids are using iPhones practically in the cradle, like, not even hand-me-down Razr flip phones. But it's nice that you're hopeful.
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Business Gorillas posted:I mean I don't think that gauging political ideologies in the second grade is a good idea but then again I've been trying to become a velociraptor for years *serious voice* Son, you realise that with the restricted length of a velociraptor's arms, the velociraptor cannot reach its own genitals Josef K. Sourdust has issued a correction as of 16:48 on Feb 5, 2017 |
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:newsflash, the suburbs are filled with upper middle class white republicans who are scared of brown ppl You might as well be posting "newsflash politics don't matter and the rich will always rule" Unless Bernie is made head of FEMA and relocates all white suburbanites to the nearest city center.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:you should be ashamed to be this stupid nope im proud of it thanks
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Sure he was. Okay, thanks bruh
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:My dude I highly doubt growing up in he 90s will be anything like growing up today. These kids are using iPhones practically in the cradle, like, not even hand-me-down Razr flip phones. My son loves his tablet, but also wants to be a dinosaur like the ones he watches on YouTube. Some things never change 
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Any wholesale death of the GOP electorate for the sake of profits will more than be made up for by vote suppression and dumpstering boxes of ballots in "at risk" districts because they're all fraudulent With the VRA gutted we're pretty much right back to the mid-50s in that regard. Nobody will be voting in 2018 that the GOP doesn't want to vote
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Epic High Five posted:Any wholesale death of the GOP electorate for the sake of profits will more than be made up for by vote suppression and dumpstering boxes of ballots in "at risk" districts because they're all fraudulent
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Epic High Five posted:Any wholesale death of the GOP electorate for the sake of profits will more than be made up for by vote suppression and dumpstering boxes of ballots in "at risk" districts because they're all fraudulent i thought trump made bigly promises about the VRA lol
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Jose posted:i thought trump made bigly promises about the VRA lol VA maybe Nobody in the last 40 years has gained any amount of power in the GOP who hasn't first agreed to help undermine the VRA, especially section 5 It was the big target whose destruction would ensure they wouldn't have to moderate or appeal to non-loonies, and they succeeded and were right
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:they're gonna have to stuff 15 million deciding votes with fast-tracked citizenship russians then There were towns in the south that were majority black that hadn't had a black representative for 100 years in the mid-70's Reagan kicked his 80 campaign off in one of them, not by coincidence They know what they're doing
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Epic High Five posted:There were towns in the south that were majority black that hadn't had a black representative for 100 years in the mid-70's
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:there's a growing amount of whites in those areas at least sympathetic to minorities, i dunno how they're gonna sustain that base through nationwide means short of mandating inbreeding We should ask PornHub where searches for incest porn are most frequent
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Epic High Five posted:VA maybe oh my god all this shop talk during my free time *sigh* carry on: 
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Epic High Five posted:Nobody will be voting in 2018 that the GOP doesn't want to vote look im not saying you are off-base about the shenanigans the GOP pulls, but this kind of cynical defeatist attitude is doing their voter suppression work for them with politics so polarized, elections generally come down to base turnout. the party that doesn't have the presidency tends to be pissed that they're out of power, therefore more motivated. this is why midterms are dangerous for the party that has the presidency. when democrats have the presidency long enough they get too complacent and start infighting and defecting to novelty green party candidates. republicans have better party discipline but they get demoralized when their leader is weak and embarrassing. obama is a great politician, but he is also a black dude named hussein. you can't really explain the scope of his victory in 2008 without the utter disaster of the bush administration, that even republicans were acknowledging by the end. my point is, the republicans have the power, and their leader is historically unpopular for an incoming president; deeply embarrassing and childish on a daily basis; goes against GOP orthodoxy on several key issues; and appears to be letting the GOP push through their most unpopular legislative priorities, like repealing the ACA and Dodd-Frank. even with all the bullshit the GOP does to tilt the scales, the democrats have a big opportunity in 2018, and we should not dismiss this.
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:look im not saying you are off-base about the shenanigans the GOP pulls, but this kind of cynical defeatist attitude is doing their voter suppression work for them lol I'm fighting this all the time I'm not being a cynical defeatist like someone who seems to think it'll all just work out on its own with time, it's just all part of a cycle man Ask these fuckers who are now suuuuuper sad about Trump delivering on his promises about Voter ID or BLM
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https://twitter.com/FrankieBotz65/status/824396022235492352 https://twitter.com/JCPOWERWC/status/822970286546878464 https://twitter.com/KuthChristopher/status/823589844756598785 lol https://twitter.com/notalemming/status/820990739253497857
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